Huberman Lab28 Sep 2025

DAVID SENRA: Daniel Ek, Spotify

I’m excited to share episode one of a new podcast that I’ve helped create and produce. This new podcast is called David Senra, and it’s hosted by David Senra. For those of you not familiar with David Senra, he is an expert in all things related to greatness. He studies greatness and understands it, mostly in the domain of business but also among creatives, athletes and other world-class performers. This first episode of the podcast is with Daniel Ek, the co-founder and CEO of Spotify. It's an absolutely spectacular conversation that I'm certain you'll enjoy. With episode one of David Senra now available, please be sure to subscribe wherever you’re listening so you don't miss future episodes. You can also subscribe to the podcast on the platforms below. Spotify: https://spti.fi/TVrr557 Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/3WaK1S6 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@davidsenra X: https://x.com/davidsenra Chapters (0:00) Introduction from Dr. Andrew Huberman (1:13) Reflecting on a Life-Changing Conversation (2:30) Optimizing for Impact Over Happiness (5:21) The Journey of Self-Motivation (10:11) The Importance of Trust and Relationships (15:37) The Role of Criticism and Self-Reflection (17:37) The Evolution of an Entrepreneur (23:27) Building a Company True to Yourself (34:56) The Power of Trust in Business (42:25) Intellectual Humility and Learning from Others (42:49) Shadowing Leaders for Growth (45:01) Learning from Mark Zuckerberg (48:15) Balancing Personal Taste and Metrics in Product Decisions (53:35) The Evolution of Leadership at Spotify (59:13) Building a Company That Outlasts the Founder (1:15:25) Managing Energy Over Time (1:25:31) The Never-Ending Game of Life (1:25:54) Lessons from Henry Ford (1:27:08) The Value of Solving Problems (1:31:42) The Importance of Quality (1:37:20) The Power of Focus and Patience (1:54:32) Balancing Work and Life (2:00:25) The Journey of Self-Discovery (2:08:43) Final Reflections and Gratitude Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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