Increase Your Pricing Power: Monetize SaaS with Ayon Bhattacharyya
Impact Pricing23 Jan 2023

Increase Your Pricing Power: Monetize SaaS with Ayon Bhattacharyya

Ayon Bhattacharyya is the Founder of Biz Growth Spurt, a consulting firm based out of New Zealand. He has experienced pricing in half a dozen companies, and he's a passionate animal welfare advocate.

In this episode, Ayon talks about the ins and outs of monetization. He also tells us a bit about his company, Biz Growth Spurt, and why you might be in need of their services.

Why you have to check out today’s podcast:

  • Learn about the three pillars of monetization and why you can’t only focus on one of them
  • Know the difference between price metric and value metric and why it matters in getting more sales
  • Understand why articulating value is essential in keeping and growing your customers

“Understand your customers intimately and take the time to quantify your buyer personas so that you understand the use case of the value proposition, the willingness to pay the lifetime value, and the customer acquisition costs; so that you can better position and package to them and ultimately capture a fair portion of the value delivered to them.”

– Ayon Bhattacharyya

Topics Covered:

01:33 – How Ayon got into pricing

03:15 – How Ayon defines “monetization”

04:24 – What packaging means to Ayon, in relation to monetization

05:26 – What Ayon means by “feature differentiation”

06:30 – Why Ayon hates freemium

08:04 – Free trials vs. Freemium: why it is important which of the two fits your business more

11:07 – How to decide which features go to which packages

14:02 – Price metric vs Value metric

19:59 – Why positioning is an essential part of monetization

23:22 – Ayon’s key to monetization: the combination of packaging, pricing, and positioning

25:25 – Biz Growth Spurt: What they do and who their ideal customers are

28:50 – The meaning of “monetization” according to Ayon vs the meaning of “monetization” according to ProfitWell

31:54 – Ayon’s pricing advice

32:49 – Connect with Ayon Bhattacharyya

Key Takeaways:

“Once you have a deep understanding of your buyer personas, how they value your product, how they use your product, how your proposition aligns with their growth journey, then you can actually start putting your features into bundles. But you want to do that based on the level of importance of those features.” – Ayon Bhattacharyya

“How you present the packages and the value messaging that you put on your website is so important. If they [the customers] understand that they're getting five times more value from the gold versus the silver, in their mind, it helps them to quantify that relative benefit of the upgrade and the potential ROI of an upgrade.” – Ayon Bhattacharyya

“If the perceived value isn't there, if you aren't communicating it, if you don't have a strong brand presence, if your solution is so complex that customers don't understand the value that they get from it, then you know, you've just wasted all of this money on product development and marketing. – Ayon Bhattacharyya

“Ideally, you want the messaging that you have on your packages is around the problem that you're solving for the customer. That's the key. It's not about the features. Those are just more internal to you. And often the customers don't get them.” – Ayon Bhattacharyya

People / Resources Mentioned:

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What Makes Pricing in Higher Education Difficult with Chris Uthe

What Makes Pricing in Higher Education Difficult with Chris Uthe

Christopher Uthe is the Director of Product Management at Ocelot, where he champions scalable day-to-day organizational changes to transform it to a product-driven company. He's been working in the education market since 2006, both for an educational institution and for companies that sell education. Chris started his first business at the age of 16. In this episode, Chris explains how pricing works in institutions of higher education as he discusses the factors that make pricing difficult in that field.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Find out how to find value if you can’t get a good and apt pricing metric Understand how pricing in higher educational institutions work, as well as the thing that makes it difficult Discover why higher education should be more focused on B2C pricing than on B2B   “It's so hard to bundle and discount correctly, that most of the time, that's not being done right.” – Chris Uthe   Topics Covered: 01:28 – The story behind Chris’ interest in pricing 02:15 – Pricing and purchasing decisions in higher education 04:37 – What institutions of higher education value: The thing that makes pricing in higher education difficult 08:18 – U.S. News and World Report as a metric: The intrinsic value of one’s degree and/or university 11:15 – In B2C vs. in B2B pricing: Where should institutions of higher education be? 14:17 – Talking about RFPs: How it leads us to lose sight of the possibility of a better and smarter solution 19:42 – Chris’ pricing advice for the listeners 21:45 – Connect with Chris Uthe   Key Takeaways: “It's so difficult to come at these purchasing decisions, saying, ‘Okay, we have to do only what's best for the student here,’ because you've got so many competing priorities that are sort of odd for the market.” – Chris Uthe “Some would tell you that they don't care. There are a sad few that would tell you they might care a little bit about profit because they do have to pay the bills, still. Not all of them are living on generous endowments, unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on how you look at it. They care about, hopefully, students’ success at the end of the day. They want to talk to you about placement rate. They want to talk to you about probably job acceptance rate. They want to talk to you about average salary coming out of school.” – Chris Uthe “Some of the value – the unspoken value – of your degree or just going to an institution comes from all the doors that it opens for having it on your resume.” – Chris Uthe “It almost always starts with a very altruistic need, which I think is amazing in higher ed, because our students aren't getting the help they need at the right time, for instance, or these students aren't able to log into the learning management system and do something meaningful at the right time or they don't know how to do it, they can't get it done. It starts very altruistic, which is one of my favorite parts of higher education, because it does usually come back to making the student more successful.” – Chris Uthe   People / Resources Mentioned: Ocelot: https://www.ocelotbot.com/ CARES Act: https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/748   Connect with Chris Uthe: LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisuthe/ Email: uthe@ocelotbot.com   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mark@impactpricing.com

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Ayon Bhattacharyya is the Founder of Biz Growth Spurt, a consulting firm based out of New Zealand. He has experienced pricing in half a dozen companies, and he's a passionate animal welfare advocate. In this episode, Ayon discusses pricing power as he enumerates its four different levels while talking about value-based pricing.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Understand how pricing power relates to price elasticity Find out what Ayon’s four different levels of pricing power are all about Discover how Mark’s will I? which one? concept relates to these levels   “Think about your pricing power, and think about how – whether it's sort of competitive advantage, perceived value, all of those things – what can you do differently to improve your pricing power today.” – Ayon Bhattacharyya   Topics Covered: 01:18 – How Ayon got into pricing 02:33 – Defining value-based pricing and relating it to airline pricing 05:57 – Pricing power vs. price elasticity 09:50 – Ayon’s four different levels of pricing power 13:33 – Describing the levels: (1) Cost chaser 15:04 – Describing the levels: (2) Market pricer 15:46 – Describing the levels: (3) Value conqueror 18:16 – Doing behavioral economics at a cost chaser level 19:09 – Applying Mark’s “will I? which one?” concept to Ayon’s levels of pricing power 22:19 – Talking about value-based and fixed pricing 25:26 – Ayon’s piece of pricing advice for the listeners   Key Takeaways: “Pricing power is essentially your ability to charge a higher price without losing customers. Another way to say that is a company's ability to get the price it deserves for the value it delivers.” – Ayon Bhattacharyya “A maturity suggests that you need to get there over a period of time; you grow into it. It can't be something that you just start out with that, at level three. But that's not what I'm trying to say here. You can actually start out and you can be an early-staged business and you can start out as a value conqueror. You don't need to progress from level one to get to level three. You can start at level three.” – Ayon Bhattacharyya “There are some businesses that can just start at a higher level, but I think generally, it is a journey. I think of pricing strategy as a journey, not just an outcome.” – Ayon Bhattacharyya   People / Resources Mentioned: Biz Growth Spurt: https://bizgrowthspurt.com/ Stephan Liozu and his book: The Pricing Journey   Connect with Ayon Bhattacharyya: Website: https://bizgrowthspurt.com/ LinkedIn: https://nz.linkedin.com/in/ayonb Email: b@bizgrowthspurt.com   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mark@impactpricing.com

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Memecast #63: Gives and Gets

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