EBB 267 - Debunking Myths about Fundal Massage with Barbie Christianson, RN

EBB 267 - Debunking Myths about Fundal Massage with Barbie Christianson, RN

On this episode of the Evidence Base Birth® Podcast, we talk with Barbie Christianson, RN all about fundal massage. We discuss what the evidence actually says about this routine procedure versus what happens in everyday practice, and why this practice continues to persist in routine preventative care.

Barbie Christianson is a nurse, community educator and advocate, as well as a parent of four young children. Their mission is to communally dismantle oppressive structures specifically in reproductive/perinatal healthcare while contributing to the expansion of existing Black and/or Indigenous led community-based care structures. Barbie's special focus is on addressing and eliminating obstetric violence using trauma informed perinatal advocacy, care, and education.

Barbie shares her passion and skills in trauma informed care with our audience by sharing useful scripts for obtaining informed consent, explaining how to guide patients in their own assessments and massage, and offers many ways to maintain a calm and compassionate nature to a procedure known as the "devil's massage."

Content Warnings: Uterine/fundal massage, obstetric violence and assault, pospartum hemorrgage Resources:
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