DEFECTORS! Justin Amash, Lincoln Chafee, Bill Weld, Mark Sanford - Featuring: Rick Ungar

Justin Amash recently bolted from the GOP, either out of protest or to run for president as a Libertarian or both. Former governor, senator, and Democratic presidential candidate Lincoln Chafee has left the Democrats... to become a libertarian. Meanwhile Bill Weld is still primarying Donald Trump and might soon be joined by Mark Sanford.

Pundit and former Marvel bigwig Rick Ungar joins Heaton to discuss fractures in the two major parties, and have a good-natured argument about the role of the state in markets and poverty.