Susan Wagner: Stop sending our horses to the slaughterhouse.

"One of the things that we've noticed is when these animals repeatedly show up, that's when people really get frustrated, up to a point where they may leave loose electrical wires in their field. And when the herd or the animal comes back the next day, they get electrocuted. So you want to keep people from flipping out and doing something crazy, right?" - Krithi Karanth Dr. Krithi Karanth is Chief Conservation Scientist and Director at the Centre for Wildlife Studies, in Bangalore, India and is Adjunct Faculty at Duke University and National Centre for Biological Sciences. She has spent the past 24 years doing research in India and Asia, much of which has focused on the many issues in the surrounding the human side of wildlife conservation. Krithi has served as editor for Conservation Biology, Conservation Letters and currently Chief Editor for Frontiers in Ecology and Environment- Conservation Section. Her conservation and research work has been featured in 3 award-winning BBC Series - The Hunt, Big Cats and Dynasties, and documentaries by CBC and PBS. I have co-produced 4 documentaries Wild Seve, Humane Highways, Wild Shaale and Flying Elephants. In 2020 I co-starred in Save This Rhino: India by Disney Hotstar and National Geographic. The work that Krithi and her colleagues at the Centre for Wildlife Studies are doing is changing everything for the animals and the humans with whom they share land throughout rural India. We in the US could (and should) learn a thing or two from their work, especially when it comes to building tolerance for wild animals like wolves and creating solutions for sharing the land. Please listen and share. Links: https://cwsindia.org/ https://www.instagram.com/cwsindia/ https://www.facebook.com/cwsindia/ https://twitter.com/cwsindia

2 Nov 202234min

"We sat down and we ordered omakase, which is essentially the chef's specialties, and they just keep bringing food out until you say I'm done. So we ate and ate and ate everything you can imagine for the better part of 3 hours before we even dared to do order whale" – Heather Rally Dr. Heather Rally spent the last decade at the PETA Foundation as a supervising veterinarian for captive animal law enforcement. What that means is she's led investigative and enforcement actions in cases of abuse of animals in roadside zoos, circuses and pretty much anywhere captive animal are on exhibit in the US. And, sadly, there are a lot of these places. Heather's training is in marine mammals. For seven years, she worked with the Oceanic Preservation Society to document and expose environmental crimes and animal welfare violations across the world by doing undercover investigations for the documentary film, Racing Extinction. In that time, she helped expose and put an end to the illegal sale of endangered species and brought global attention to the exponential rate of extinction that's happening all over the planet. Heather truly is a superhero. Listen to her episode and I think you'll agree. Links: PETA Prime: https://prime.peta.org/news/dr-heather-rally-my-adventures-as-petas-chief-veterinarian/ Whale Sanctuary Project: https://whalesanctuaryproject.org/people/heather-rally/ Racing Extinction: https://www.opsociety.org/our-work/films/racing-extinction/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwkt6aBhDKARIsAAyeLJ3Q4AjM5RfUfeNdHMiYvKyiquwzOk-lW0LceMku-O5H6ChjT03tmjgaArrMEALw_wcB

26 Okt 202247min

"We talk very badly nowadays about fashion, right? Because of the environmental impact and so on. But at the same time, there is also value in fashion. If not, we wouldn't be so obsessed. It's inspirational, it makes you dream… Let's keep the good thing, the positive thing that gives you a good feeling and toss away and eliminate the bad things. It can be done." Claudia Pievani Claudia Pievani is the founder of Miomojo, the cruelty-free and sustainable Italian fashion brand that is making some of the most beautiful bags I've ever seen. They are recycled and up-cycled and – use the entire range of incredibly innovative, next-generation materials – derived from plant-based resources, including apples, corn, cactus and pineapple. "Over time, we have proved that a beautiful object doesn't have to come at the expenses of other living beings or our planet. With creativity and compassion, we have proved that it is possible to have fashion without fashion victims." – Claudia Pievani https://www.miomojo.com/en/

19 Okt 202226min

"And I'm just having this urban, agrarian, techie renaissance thing with my hipster neighbors and it's just so rich. And I think to myself, 'wow, we've have to share this experience. How do we spread this?' – Josh Whiton Josh Whiton is an eco tech entrepreneur and a social innovator who is helping to repair the Earth. When Josh was 23, he founded the transit tech company, TransLoc., for which he was named a champion of change by the White House and Trans Loc was later acquired by Ford. His latest innovation is called Make Soil. Make Soil matches people who compost with people who want to learn how to compost, kind of like a Tinder for composters. It's already being used in 53 countries and growing really fast. Please listen and share and then, go make some soil. Makesoil.org

12 Okt 202236min

"One day I was leaving the animal shelter and I would always go and have lunch at this restaurant down the street and I'd get this pork barbecue sandwich. I remember it so vividly. I can remember the booth I was sitting in. I can picture the place. And I just remember thinking, I spent all day helping this one animal and now I'm eating another animal." - Stephanie Downs on the moment everything changed Stephanie Downs is the CEO and co-founder of Uncaged Innovations. Uncaged is a biomaterials company that combines nature and technology to reimagine leather. After two years in stealth mode, they have launched a bio leather (made from many plants) that will transform the fashion, automotive and home goods industries. It has the same quality and durability of leather without the use of any animals. It's sustainable, scalable and it's stunning (I've seen it in person). Stephanie has been working to get animals out of the food and materials system for decades. She's worked with animal welfare organizations to create enormous change in the food, fashion and automotive industries and she is a co-founder of the Material Innovation Initiative and a co-founder of Good Dot, the largest plant-based meat company in India. Solutions are what is going to change the world for animals. We can (and should) scream about the horrors of the meat, dairy, leather and wool industries all day long but we need solutions. Uncaged is a big one. https://www.uncagedinnovations.com/

5 Okt 202231min

"The pets tend to be the most behaviorally disturbed, I would say. They have the hardest transition most of the time into kind of sanctuary life, because with the pet trade, infants are usually taken from their mothers within a few days or a few weeks after they're born. And most primate species in the wild will stay with their mothers for at least a couple of years, if not for most of their life. So that's incredibly damaging right off the bat, because that separation is very traumatizing." – Devan Schowe Devan Schowe is the Campaigns Associate for Born Free USA, a nonprofit wildlife organization with the largest primate sanctuary in the country. Born Free recently release and report on the extensive suffering of giraffe in zoos. I read the report and wanted to talk to Devan about giraffes but also to get her expert perspective on captivity and why it's so harmful to all animals, particularly in zoos. It completely baffles me that in 2022, most people have no issue with zoos. Maybe they don't know that no matter how "nice" the zoo is, it's still a prison for animals. Born Free USA https://www.bornfreeusa.org/

21 Sep 202236min

"We have to look at those structures. If we don't look at those structures, if we don't look at the economic structures and we don't look at the instrumentalization of animals, the use of animals, the devaluation, the lack of dignity that's given to animals, we're just going to perpetuate our sort of grotesque use of these creatures." – Lori Gruen Philosophers, Alice Crary and Laurie Gruen co-wrote the recently released book, Animal Crisis: A New Critical Theory. The book is a deep dive into the many systems that are failing both animals and humans and makes the case that there can be no animal liberation without human emancipation. "What we're doing is bringing out the possibility, making it possible to recognize that some of the structures that harm human beings also harm animals… and to show that that these ties aren't accidental." – Alice Crary Alice Crary is University Distinguished Professor of Philosophy at the New School, where she's a co-founder and steering committee member of the Collaborative for Climate Futures. Laurie Gruen is the William Griffin professor of Philosophy at Wesleyan University, where she coordinates Wesleyan Animal Studies. Lori has been on the podcast before, and I am very happy and honored to have her back. Links: Animal Crisis: https://www.amazon.com/Animal-Crisis-New-Critical-Theory/dp/1509549684 Lori Gruen: https://www.lorigruen.com/ Alice Crary https://alicecrary.com/

7 Sep 202245min

"We have this this sort of human exceptionalism or human supremacy that that is used as the kind of baseline foundational justification for exploiting animals, that humans are just more important and we're more special in some way." – Dr. Syd Johnson Dr. Hope Ferdowsian and Dr. Syd Johnson recently published an essay in the Hastings Center Bioethics Forum called, Primates and Medical Research A Matter of Convenience, Not Sound Science. I read the essay and quickly realized how much there was that I didn't know about animal testing and research (and I thought I knew a lot). The essay begins with one rhesus macaque who will spend her life in a cage as part of an Alzheimer's disease experiment. They tell the story not only of this individual primate, but of animal research as whole, how and when it started all the way up to where we are now, and also what an enormous failure most of it has been. Around 90 percent of drugs that pass in animal testing fail on humans. With numbers like that, in any other industry I'm pretty sure that we'd have given up by now. Not only is animal testing insanely cruel, but it's incredibly ineffective. So, why are we still testing on tens of millions of animals and spending billions of dollars on mostly bad research year after year? Money and because we've "always done it this way," (and we have, since 6 BCE). All systems that exploit, torture and abuse animals desperately need to change and the thing is, all of these systems can change. We have solutions. They exist and are getting bigger and better by the day. There are solutions to replace animals in the food system, in fashion, in entertainment and in medical research. But the money train that goes into using animals in research isn't slowing down, and not enough of us are demanding otherwise (and we are who is paying for it). I think in part, because not enough of us are aware of the cruelty and the inefficiency that is animal testing. We are paying the bill simply because this is how it's always been done. But it's not how it should be done.

1 Sep 202243min