474. Beyond the Run with Dr. Ian Nurse & Emily Saul

474. Beyond the Run with Dr. Ian Nurse & Emily Saul

"Running is hard. Races are hard. So let's expect that."

Welcome to Beyond the Run — a new series on the Ali on the Run Show focusing on the mental side of running. Twice a month, we'll hear from professional athletes, everyday runners, and experts in their fields about the impact running can have on our emotional well-being.

We're kicking things off today with two experts.

Dr. Ian Nurse is a chiropractor, 25-time marathoner (with a 2:25 personal best), dad of two, and owner of Wellness in Motion Boston, where he treats the everyday and amateur runner, movie stars, musicians, and professional athletes including Molly Seidel, Elle Purrier St. Pierre, and Heather MacLean. (And he treats me!) Ian is all about taking a holistic approach to his treatment, which is why in addition to his staff of chiropractors, physical therapists, and massage therapists, he also brought Emily Saul onto the team.

You may remember Emily Saul — the collegiate rower turned marathoner and co-leader of November Project Boston — from Episode 59 of the Ali on the Run Show. She's a licensed mental health counselor with a Master's degree in sports psychology, and she's the founder of E Saul Movement.

In this unexpectedly personal conversation (two of us cried!), Ian talks about how runners can take care of their bodies this year, and Emily speaks to the mental side of it all. They talk about working with Molly Seidel the day before the 2021 New York City Marathon, and Ian talks about his struggles with aging on the run and how Emily has helped him work through that. Plus, dealing with injuries, how to know when to "push through the pain," and what seeing a sports psychologist is actually like.

SPONSOR: New Balance — Go to newbalance.com/beyondtherun to learn more about how New Balance is supporting the conversations around mental wellness in running. (And check out my current favorite jacket, joggers, and long-sleeve shirts.)

What you'll get on this episode:

  • How are you doing? (8:30)
  • How Ian got connected with and started treating professional runners, and his approach to treating runners in pain (15:30)
  • Ian and Emily's work with Molly Seidel before the 2021 New York City Marathon (27:50)
  • What a first-time session with Emily is like (43:15)
  • Ian's role in a patient's treatment (50:00)
  • On getting older as a runner, and why Ian started seeing Emily — as a patient (54:00)
  • The most-common complaints Ian and Emily hear from their patients and clients (1:04:30)
  • Something Ian and Emily want runners to add to or remove from their lives to live and run happier (1:16:00)

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09. Sarah Conklin, 3:37 Marathoner & Picky Bars Employee

09. Sarah Conklin, 3:37 Marathoner & Picky Bars Employee

Sarah Conklin is perhaps best known on the internet as the blogger behind "Once Upon a Lime." She lives in Bend, OR, where she works for Picky Bars, the sports bar company founded by professional athletes Lauren Fleshman, Jesse Thomas, and Stephanie Bruce. Before that, she worked for Oiselle, the women's athletic wear company, and was an avid marathoner. Now, after taking a bit of a break from the marathon distance, Sarah is back at it, training under Lauren Fleshman's guidance. On this episode, we talked about everything from what a day in the life of a Picky Bars employee is like (bonus: it sometimes includes starting the day on the ski slopes) to failed Boston Qualifying attempts to getting a divorce in your twenties. Sarah was super open and honest, and offered up some great insights about relationships, growing up, and changing her perspective on running. Show Notes: Once Upon a Lime: https://oual.wordpress.com/ Picky Bars: https://pickybars.com/ Oiselle: http://www.oiselle.com/ 4:20: Emily Halnon on Episode 1 of the Ali on the Run Show: http://www.aliontherunblog.com/2017/03/01/episode-1-ultramarathoner-emily-halnon/ 4:35: Rock n Roll Las Vegas Half Marathon recap: http://www.aliontherunblog.com/2011/12/06/rock-n-roll-las-vegas-half-marathon-recap/ 11:10: Follow Lauren Fleshman: http://asklaurenfleshman.com/ 13:00: Elyse Kopecky: http://www.indulgentnourishment.com/ 19:30: Sarah's post about her divorce: https://oual.wordpress.com/2015/07/03/growing-up-and-apart/ 29:30: Fleshman and the Mid-Packer: https://pickybars.com/the-scoop/fleshman-mid-packer/ 29:30: Cleveland Marathon: http://www.clevelandmarathon.com/ 49:15: Sarah's Ragnar SoCal Relay recap: https://oual.wordpress.com/tag/ragnar-socal/ Follow Sarah: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarahoual/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SarahOUaL Blog: https://oual.wordpress.com/ Follow Ali: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aliontherun1 Twitter: https://twitter.com/aliontherun1 Blog: http://www.aliontherunblog.com/ Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/13333410 Thank you for listening to and supporting the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on iTunes. Spread the run love!

9 Mars 20171h 4min

08. The 10 Most Influential People in My Running Life

08. The 10 Most Influential People in My Running Life

On this episode, I share my list of the top 10 people (and one dog!) who have had the most profound impact on my life since becoming a runner. Show Notes: 10. Bethany Lyons Follow Bethany on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bethanyalyons/ Lyons Den Power Yoga: http://lyonsdenpoweryoga.com/ Bethany Lyons on Ali on the Run: http://www.aliontherunblog.com/2017/02/27/bethany-lyons-soulcycle/ 9. Emily Faherty Follow Emily on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emfaherty/ November Project: http://november-project.com/ 8. Sara Beaney Follow Sara on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarabeaney/ 2016 New York City Marathon Recap: http://www.aliontherunblog.com/2016/11/07/new-york-city-marathon-2016-recap/ 7. The Sweat Squad Kelly Hogan: https://www.instagram.com/kellyhoganrd/ Lindsay Kos: https://www.instagram.com/lindsaykos/ Meggie Smith: https://www.instagram.com/mbsthinks/ Susan Pass: https://www.instagram.com/susanruns/ Megan Harrington: https://www.instagram.com/meganireneh/ The Day I Felt Like a Runner blog post: http://www.aliontherunblog.com/2011/05/25/the-day-i-finally-felt-like-a-runner/ 2011 Hamptons Marathon recap: http://www.aliontherunblog.com/2011/09/25/i-am-a-marathoner-the-official-hamptons-marathon-recap/ 6. Mary Wittenberg Follow Mary on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marywruns/ New York Road Runners: http://www.nyrr.org/ Virgin Sport: https://www.virgin.com/richard-branson/introducing-virgin-sport Project Start: http://womensrunning.competitor.com/2016/09/inspiration/project-start-5-runners-stories_65371 5. Ellie 4. Coach Cane Follow Coach Cane on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coachcane/ Nicole Sin Quee: https://www.instagram.com/sinquee/ Episode 2 of the Ali on the Run Show: http://www.aliontherunblog.com/2017/03/01/episode-2-brian-cristiano-married-someone-crohns-disease/ 3. Brian Cristiano Follow Brian on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/boldceo/ 2. Emily Halnon Follow Emily on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emilysweats/ Episode 1 of the Ali on the Run Show: http://www.aliontherunblog.com/2017/03/01/episode-1-ultramarathoner-emily-halnon/ 2012 Manchester City Marathon recap: http://www.aliontherunblog.com/2012/11/06/from-413-to-351-my-manchester-city-marathon-recap/ 1. Meghan Conroy Follow Conroy on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mcon28/ Follow Ali: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aliontherun1 Twitter: https://twitter.com/aliontherun1 Blog: http://www.aliontherunblog.com/ Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/13333410 Thank you for listening to and supporting the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on iTunes. Spread the run love!

7 Mars 201722min

07. Megha Doshi, Local Marketing Director at Strava

07. Megha Doshi, Local Marketing Director at Strava

Megha Doshi is the local marketing director for Strava, the social networking site for athletes. Before heading to Strava several years ago, Megha worked for Nike, where she was a member of the digital sport group at Nike. She's a sub-three-hour marathoner and is currently training for the 2017 Boston Marathon. Megha runs 60–70 miles per week, and trains and races with the all-female Impala Racing Team in San Francisco. Megha and I talked about what a day in the life of a Strava employee is like, how she embodies the five core values at Strava, and how she works sweatworking into her busy — and endorphin-filled — schedule. Show Notes: Strava: https://www.strava.com/ Impala Racing Team on Strava: https://www.strava.com/clubs/2058 Impala Racing Team on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ImpalaRacingTeam Working at Strava: http://blog.strava.com/careers/ Strava blog: http://blog.strava.com/ Strava art: http://www.bicycling.com/rides/art/become-strava-artist-these-gps-tips 18:00: Red Hook Crit: https://redhookcrit.com/ 19:30: The Red Hook Crit in Men's Journal: http://www.mensjournal.com/sports/articles/why-one-of-the-most-crash-filled-bike-races-sells-out-in-minutes-w204752 20:15: David Trimble: http://pelotonmagazine.com/racing/5-minutes-with-david-trimble/ 40:40: Joan Benoit Samuelson: http://www.joanbenoitsamuelson.com/ 40:30: Gene Lu on Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/256932 47:00: Strava Most Popular Run Routes: http://www.runnersworld.com/general-interest/the-most-popular-running-routes-in-the-20-biggest-us-metro-areas 48:50: Strava Matched Runs: http://blog.strava.com/the-story-behind-matched-runs-9212/ 1:00:52: Mary Wittenberg: https://www.instagram.com/marywruns/ 1:03:56: Spiralizer: https://www.amazon.com/Spiralizer-Vegetable-Strongest-Heaviest-Gluten-Free/dp/B00GRIR87M 1:05:30: ROLL Recovery R8: https://www.rollrecovery.com/r8/ Follow Megha: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/meghadoshi/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/meghadoshi5 Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/4791196 Follow Ali: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aliontherun1 Twitter: https://twitter.com/aliontherun1 Blog: http://www.aliontherunblog.com/ Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/13333410 Thank you for listening to and supporting the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on iTunes. Spread the run love!

2 Mars 20171h 8min

06. Chris Heuisler, the National Run Concierge for Westin Hotels and Resorts

06. Chris Heuisler, the National Run Concierge for Westin Hotels and Resorts

Chris Heuisler is the National Run Concierge for Westin Hotels and Resorts. He has every runner's dream job — traveling the country to meet runners and hear their stories — and he beat out more than 1,100 applicants to get the gig. Chris and his team of concierges make sure runners staying at Westin Hotels know where to run — they'll even run with you! — and they'll hook you up with free New Balance gear to borrow during your stay. Chris, a former Equinox trainer and actor, also racks up some serious miles in the air: 100,000 per year, in fact, traveling to various Westin Hotels across North America to be on-hand for race weekends at Rock 'n' Roll events. Chris is also a super speedy runner (and sub-3:00 marathoner) on a quest to run a marathon in all 50 states. (He's completed 20 states so far.) Chris — or "Uncle Huggy Bear," as his family calls him — currently lives outside Boston with his wife, Rachel, and their two kids. Show Notes 3:00: Run Westin Program: http://www.starwoodhotels.com/westin/about/move-runwestin.html?language=en_US 3:00: Westin Hotels: http://www.starwoodhotels.com/westin/index.html 9:30: Chris running with Meb: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-run-of-a-lifetime_us_57d298d5e4b0eb9a57b7a67a 10:00: John Bingham, The Penguin: http://www.johnbingham.com/ 11:40: November Project: http://november-project.com/ 12:30: Rock 'n' Roll Race Series: http://www.runrocknroll.com/ 18:20: New Yorker article about working from home: http://www.newyorker.com/humor/daily-shouts/i-work-from-home 18:50: Chris on Huffington Post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/chris-heuisler 19:50: Deena Kastor's Mammoth Running Escape: http://deenakastor.com/escape/ 22:40: Huffington Post story about meditation: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/how-10-minutes-of-doing-nothing-is-helping-my-running_us_58a5f0b9e4b0fa149f9ac2f8 23:50: Headspace app: https://www.headspace.com/ 28:20: John's 40th Birthday Marathon at Rock 'n' Roll Raleigh: http://www.runnersworld.com/runners-stories/262-suprises-a-birthday-party-of-marathon-proportions 34:20: Run Westin / Rock 'n' Roll VIP Program: http://runwestin.starwoodpromos.com/ 37:15: Chris's piece for the Huffington Post about running a 2:45 marathon: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/nyc-the-one-that-got-away_us_5812b11ee4b08301d33e07b3 44:50: Chris on IMDb: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1319070/ 45:00: Proof Chris and Alexis Bledel totally dated: http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/posts/gilmore-girls-netflix-118978 48:15: The Mebsie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZYlmiZRHI0 57:10: Chris's Favorite Track Workout: http://running.competitor.com/2015/02/training/workout-of-the-week-deeks-quarters_12386 59:00: ROLL Recovery R8: https://www.rollrecovery.com/r8/ Follow Chris: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chrisheuisler/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/RunWestin Follow Ali: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aliontherun1 Twitter: https://twitter.com/aliontherun1 Blog: http://www.aliontherunblog.com/ Thank you for listening to and supporting the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on iTunes. Spread the run love!

23 Feb 20171h 5min

05. Alice Saunders, Creator of Forestbound and 3:19 Marathoner

05. Alice Saunders, Creator of Forestbound and 3:19 Marathoner

Alice Saunders is the creator of Forestbound, a Boston-based company that makes and sells canvas and leather bags made from historic textiles. Alice is also a super speedy runner and marathoner. She started running later in life, and now boasts some pretty serious PRs, including a 3:19 marathon and a 1:37 half marathon. In this episode, Alice and I talk about how she created Forestbound, why she started running (for a good cause!), and our unathletic pasts — including our best strategies for skipping out on the mile during gym class in fifth grade. (Plus a few hot takes about important things like pineapple pizza.) We're also hosting a giveaway with this episode! One lucky listener will win Alice's famous ESCAPE Canvas Utility Bag. (You're going to want this bag. It's the best.) To enter, leave a rating and review on iTunes (http://apple.co/2kDx0zz) before Tuesday, February 21. I'll pick a winner at random and will announce the lucky ESCAPE bag winner on next week's episode. Show Notes Forestbound: http://www.forestbound.com/ ESCAPE bag: http://www.forestbound.com/collections/escape-canvas-bag Forestbound Long May They Run line: http://www.forestbound.com/collections/long-may-they-run The Association for Frontotemporal Degeneration: http://www.theaftd.org/ SHAPE Women's Half Marathon: http://www.nyrr.org/races-and-events/2017/shape-womens-half-marathon Eugene Marathon: http://www.eugenemarathon.com/ Sarah Bard: https://sarahjbard.com/ Follow Alice: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/forestbound/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/Forestbound Website: http://www.forestbound.com/ Follow Ali: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aliontherun1 Twitter: https://twitter.com/aliontherun1 Blog: http://www.aliontherunblog.com/ Thank you for listening to and supporting the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on iTunes (http://apple.co/2kDx0zz). Spread the run love!

16 Feb 201758min

04. Running Coach John Honerkamp

04. Running Coach John Honerkamp

John Honerkamp is a former Olympic Trials qualifier, a running coach, and one of the co-leaders of the November Project tribe in New York City. He boasts an impressive running history: He competed at the Olympic Trials in the 800 meters when he was still in college, and holds a 2:44 marathon PR. John worked for New York Road Runners for six years, where he helped create and develop the organization's Virtual Trainer coaching and group training programs. John is currently a freelance running coach and consultant, and trains everyone from first-time runners to super competitive collegiate track and field athletes. (Fun fact: He's also a comedian and performs with improv troupes!) Note: The audio for this episode is a little funky at times. We didn't have a great internet connection while we were recording, so bear with us, and it'll be fixed for the next episode! Show Notes: November Project: http://november-project.com/ New York Road Runners: http://www.nyrr.org/ New York Road Runners Virtual Trainer: http://www.nyrr.org/train-with-us/training-programs Follow John: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnhonerkamp/ Website: http://johnhonerkamp.com/ Follow Ali: Instagram: aliontherun1 Twitter: aliontherun1 Blog: http://www.aliontherunblog.com Thank you for listening to and supporting the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on iTunes. Spread the run love!

10 Feb 20171h 11min

03. Alison Desir, Founder of Harlem Run

03. Alison Desir, Founder of Harlem Run

Alison Desir is a runner, writer, and blogger, and is the founder of Harlem Run. She was the driving force behind the recent Run 4 All Women, a run from Harlem to Washington, D.C., that raised more than $100,000 for Planned Parenthood. Alison is also the creator of the Harlem One Miler, which is in its third year and will expand to Detroit, MI, later this year. Alison and I talked about how running helped her through a period of depression, how she created Harlem Run, which now boasts 250 people at its workouts, and what her plans and goals are for the Harlem One Miler. Follow Alison: Twitter: powderedfeet Instagram: powderedfeet Blog: http://www.powderedfeet.com Follow Ali: Instagram: aliontherun1 Twitter: aliontherun1 Blog: http://www.aliontherunblog.com 2:20: Harlem Run: http://www.harlemrun.com/ 3:30: Team in Training: http://www.teamintraining.org/ 4:00: Rock 'N' Roll San Diego: http://www.runrocknroll.com/san-diego/ 12:20: Follow Amir: https://www.instagram.com/alacrityamir/ 12:45: Follow Mary Arnold: https://www.instagram.com/maryarnold79/ 13:15: Meet Kai: http://www.harlemrun.com/bios/ 16:40: Harlem United: https://www.harlemunited.org/ 17:00 Harlem One-Miler: https://harlem1miler.com/ 23:00: Run 4 All Women: https://www.gofundme.com/4Women4AllWomen 27:50: AM Joy Clip: http://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/women-run-to-march-for-planned-parenthood-860218435670 32:40: Finish Line Physical Therapy: http://finishlinept.com/ 45:00: Project Start: https://www.instagram.com/psyougotthis/ 45:00: Candice Huffine: https://www.instagram.com/candicehuffine/ 1:00:00: Mary Wittenberg: https://www.instagram.com/marywruns/ Thank you for listening to and supporting the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on iTunes. Spread the run love!

9 Feb 20171h 3min

02. Brian Cristiano — Being Married to Someone with Crohn's Disease

02. Brian Cristiano — Being Married to Someone with Crohn's Disease

Brian Cristiano is the founder and CEO of BOLD Worldwide, a sports advertising agency in New York City, and the host of the Sports Marketing Huddle podcast. He's also my husband! So on this episode, we talk about what it's like living with—and loving—someone with Crohn's disease. I've had a few rough flares during our time together, so I picked Brian's brain to get his perspective on what it's like being on the other side of the bathroom door. Follow Brian: Instagram: briancristiano Twitter: brian_cristiano Sports Marketing Huddle podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/sports-marketing-huddle/id1135417163?mt=2 BOLD Worldwide: http://www.boldworldwide.com/ Follow Ali: Instagram: aliontherun1 Twitter: aliontherun1 Blog: http://www.aliontherunblog.com Run for the Rabbit Announcement: http://www.aliontherunblog.com/2011/04/22/im-running-for-the-rabbit/ Meet Brian: http://www.aliontherunblog.com/2011/09/28/meet-my-handsome-friend/ 5:00: Crohn's and Colitis Foundation of America: http://www.ccfa.org/ 9:30: 2011 Brooklyn Half Marathon Recap: http://www.aliontherunblog.com/2011/05/21/brooklyn-half-marathon-recap/ 20:00: 10-Day Juice Cleanse: http://www.aliontherunblog.com/2013/04/04/this-is-an-opportunity-not-a-punishment/ 20:00: Fat, Sick & Nearly Dead: http://www.fatsickandnearlydead.com/ 47:00: Probiotics: https://www.natren.com/healthy-trinity.html 57:00: Roomba Scooba: https://www.amazon.com/iRobot-Scooba-Floor-Scrubbing-Robot/dp/B00IO9U06I Thank you for listening to and supporting the Ali on the Run Show! If you're enjoying the show, please subscribe and leave a rating and review on iTunes. Spread the run love!

9 Feb 201759min

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