Part 36 - Dr. Mark Cucuzzella & Zach Bitter on Fat Adapted Running, Fine Tuning Your Body, and Helping the Community

Part 36 - Dr. Mark Cucuzzella & Zach Bitter on Fat Adapted Running, Fine Tuning Your Body, and Helping the Community

Today we have a double header with 2 great figures as well as athletes in the low carb community.

Zach Bitter is the 100 mile American record holder and 12 hour world record holder for ultramarathons. He hosts the Human Performance Outliers podcast with Dr. Shawn Baker and has learned many lessons from amazing people along the way. He has wealth of knowledge of fat adapted athletics and fueling himself with meat while healing his body.

But first we have Dr. Mark Cucuzzella who is a Professor of Medicine at West Virginia University medical school, Fellow of the American Academy of Family Physicians, a Family physician for 20 years, and a Lt Col in the US Air Force Reserves. He's doing such great work in his hospital and community and has implemented some very beneficial programs. He's a great guy and was a big supporter of the film early on.

He brings up that Zach Bitter was actually in the FASTER study that previous podcast guest Dr. Jeff Volek famously did that rewrote the textbooks on fat oxidation. Lot's of good stuff her beyond running!

Thanks again for helping us finish the Indiegogo campaign. We hit our goal, but that certainly wasn't the amount needed to finish the film. You can still preorder a copy of Food Lies on Indiegogo by clicking through FoodLies.org. Get the limited edition Eat Meat shirt there and check out the other perks - that's at FoodLies.org.

A quick update about me - I just started training for a Decathlon at UCLA. I'm going to do it running on meat and fat. Many of you probably saw the video of me pole vaulting for the first time in over 16 years on social media. This is going to be awesome. Everyone there thinks I'm insane for doing it at 35 while never having done most of the events before, let alone all of them in 2 days at the Masters Championships in Iowa. Also the mostly eating meat, fish, and eggs thing is really tripping them out. Follow along on social media. Also I'll have a totally unrelated big announcement in the upcoming weeks. Stay tuned - I'm very excited. Now here's Mark and Zach.

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Show notes

Zach Bitter

  • Hosts the Human Performance Outliers podcast with Dr. Shawn Baker
  • He holds the 100 mile American record with an average pace of 7 minutes per mile
  • He also holds the world record for farthest distance run in 12 hours
  • He spent the first half of his running career on the conventional high carb diet that all runners believe is best
  • He followed a whole foods approach with lots of whole grains, fruits, and vegetables - no processed foods or junk food
  • At age 24/25 he was having some bad symptoms that shouldn't face a young man in his prime
  • He wasn't sleeping well, he didn't have sustained energy throughout the day, and had poor recovery after workouts
  • He looked towards nutrition as a cure and found the low carb, high fat diet
  • Got turned on to Dr. Phinney and Dr. Volek early on so he had a solid approach to transitioning into fat-adaptation correctly
  • He transitioned in the off-season and sleep and energy immediately improved
  • Recovery and mobility greatly improved after races once fat-adapted
  • What are some other sports where it's good to be fat-adapted?
  • It seems to be dependent on how soon you're going to train again. If it's only once per day it seems carbs aren't really necessary. 2 sessions per day, probably yes.
  • He only needs carbs when doing intensity plus high volume. Either one separately he doesn't.
  • How he got into the carnivore world
  • He's done 73 podcast episodes with various experts and has learned a lot
  • 2 big things are that vegetables aren't really necessary it seems and there's a lot of myths about protein that are turning out to not be true. There's probably no such thing as too much protein
  • My ultra simplistic theory is that animal foods are +1, processed foods are -1, and plant foods are just neutral (or 0). Plant foods aren't doing much for you other than taking up space in your stomach from things that could be worse. The real nutrition is from the animal foods.
  • He agrees with this and builds his meals around fatty meat, eggs, and some full fat dairy
  • He ferments his own vegetables
  • If you have digestive problems try doing only animal foods and add stuff back in slowly and carefully to track it
  • Hunter gatherers used to eat (and still do) fermented plant matter out of animal's stomachs, especially in cold environments when that was their only vegetation
  • Check out the HPO podcast he does with Shawn Baker
  • Zach does running and nutrition coaching - find him at zachbitter.com
  • He's on twitter at twitter.com/zbitter and Instagram at instagram.com/zachbitter


Mark Cucuzzella

SHOW NOTES

  • Mark is a doctor in West Virginia doing great things for his community and grew up as a runner
  • He's appeared in a lot of big news articles and news segments over the years https://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/magazine/running-christopher-mcdougall.html
  • https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6112350
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1dyKDrkABc
  • His website https://www.drmarksdesk.com
  • He recently wrote the book Run For Your Life which I've read and recommend to any runner https://www.amazon.com/Run-Your-Life-Without-Well-Being/dp/110194630X/
  • He created the Efficient Running Project for the US Air Force https://www.drmarksdesk.com/usaf-efficient-running
  • He almost made the olympic trials for the marathon but was plagued by injuries and almost quit before taking health into his own hands and also running barefoot or almost barefoot
  • He was able to keep running and has a streak of 30 years of under a 3 hour marathon
  • He opened a running store and has organized tons of runs & events for adults and kids and got the community a lot more active
  • He bought into the low fat high carb diet HUGE waking up at 2am eating more cereal he was so hungry
  • He was in charge of figuring out why people in the Air Force kept failing the fitness tests
  • This was in 2002 and he saw the Gary Taubes article What if it's All Been a Big Fat Lie? https://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/magazine/what-if-it-s-all-been-a-big-fat-lie.html
  • As a doctor he always has learned from his patients. He asked auditoriums full of recruits who has lost 50 pounds or more and kept it off for a year? The only answer was "I gave up bread, or I gave up soda, or I did Paleo, or I did Atkins"
  • He also is a professor at WVU writing papers, etc.
  • He started a program at his hospital that removed all sugary drinks
  • 80% of people in a hospital have insulin resistance and/or metabolic syndrome why would we be giving them a toxin like sugar?
  • The staff supported him in this after getting healthier and losing weight by cutting sugar and carbs
  • He helped get double dollars for food stamps at the farmers market https://youtu.be/k5zptL5c9mI
  • #1 thing purchased with food stamps (now called SNAP) in America is soda!!
  • He's also starting programs to help people make better choices at dollar stores
  • I think "food deserts" are a myth. It's just information. You don't need fresh fruit and veg to be healthy. You can get meat, eggs, and canned fish anywhere in America within a few blocks
  • Food industry and advertisements are working against us
  • EAT Lancet debunking
  • His blog post on this http://naturalrunningcenter.com/2019/01/27/eatlancet/
  • He's part of the Nutrition Coalition with Nina Teicholz
  • I grew up running barefoot in Hawaii
  • Human evolution and persistence hunting
  • Daniel Lieberman comes up again who's the Harvard professor I had an unpleasant call with
  • Running shouldn't be about burning calories it should be about being efficient
  • His comprehensive article on fat adapted running http://naturalrunningcenter.com/2017/02/19/simple-food-rules-2/
  • Zach was actually part of the FASTER study by Phinney and Volek https://www.metabolismjournal.com/article/S0026-0495(15)00334-0/abstract
  • The textbooks say humans can only oxidize 0.8 grams per minute but in the study they doubled that. Dr. Mark did it himself and measured 2.0 grams of fat/min
  • HIs heart rate dropped down significantly after only 1 minute because he is in such good shape and running so efficiently on fat - great for recovery
  • If you're a medical professional and would like to make changes in your community or otherwise you can contact him at afrundoc@gmail.com
  • Dr. Eric Westman is a great doctor doing low carb for decades with his patients and having great success https://www.dukehealth.org/find-doctors-physicians/eric-c-westman-md-mhs
  • http://DietDoctor.com
  • Dr. Robert Lustig's "The Complete Skinny on Obesity" https://youtu.be/moQZd1-BC0Y
  • Even though the campaign is over you can still preorder the film and get the great perks

Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post

Support me on Patreon! http://patreon.com/peakhuman

Film site: http://FoodLies.org

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Part 229 -Reviving Regenerative Agriculture with Will Harris

Part 229 -Reviving Regenerative Agriculture with Will Harris

Will Harris is known for his pioneering regenerative agriculture practices. The episode explores Harris's journey from traditional farming to regenerative agriculture, the economic challenges, and the impact on land, community, and ecosystems. Harris shares insights from his experiences, including his transition away from chemical-dependent farming and the development of vertically integrated operations. They discuss the benefits of regenerative practices, the difficulties in marketing and scaling, as well as the broader implications for nutrition and sustainability. Lastly, the episode addresses the sustainability of feeding the world through regenerative practices, emphasizing local community support and the long-term generational benefits. 05:10 Introduction to Will Harris 09:05 Challenges and Evolution in Farming Practices 29:43 The Impact of Erosion on Soil Health 30:09 Scientific Comparison: Monocrop vs. Diverse Ecosystem 30:48 Economic Challenges of Transitioning to Regenerative Farming 31:49 The Rise of Grass-Fed Beef and Market Challenges 33:00 Educating Consumers on Grass-Fed Beef 35:03 The Influence of Propaganda on Food Choices 42:18 The Role of Debt in Farm Management 44:15 Challenges in Poultry Farming 50:31 The Benefits of Regenerative Agriculture 53:31 Feeding the World Sustainably 01:00:20 Reflections on the Future of Regenerative Farming BEEF TALLOW PRODUCTS: NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

29 Okt 1h 2min

Sapien Podcast- Fiber Myths, Vitamin C Lies, and the Fight for Root-Cause Health with Chris Kruger

Sapien Podcast- Fiber Myths, Vitamin C Lies, and the Fight for Root-Cause Health with Chris Kruger

In this episode of the Sapien Podcast, Chris Kruger returns as co-host with Brian Sanders for a deep dive into nutrition myths, fiber fallacies, and the failures of mainstream dietetics. Together, they expose how official guidelines and academic institutions push confusion for profit while ignoring root-cause solutions. The hosts critique health narratives around fiber, red meat, vitamin C, and weight-loss drugs, while sharing client case studies that reveal the real path to metabolic health. They emphasize the Sapien approach: whole foods, animal-based nutrition, hormone balance, and lifestyle over pills and procedures. SHOW NOTES: 04:00 The Football Analogy: nutritionists misunderstand cause and effect 06:00 Debunking fiber myths and why whole foods matter most 09:00 Case study: reversing lifelong constipation with a low-fiber diet 12:00 Red meat, healthy user bias, and flawed nutrition studies 14:30 Academia, food industry funding, and distorted guidelines 15:30 Carnivore diets and the vitamin C myth 18:00 Beyond "calories in, calories out" 27:00 Defining metabolic syndrome vs. metabolic excellence 30:00 Statins, side effects, and why lifestyle beats prescriptions 32:00 Hormone health as the foundation of motivation and vitality BEEF TALLOW PRODUCTS: NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

27 Okt 37min

Sapien Podcast- Fitness Wisdom Unplugged

Sapien Podcast- Fitness Wisdom Unplugged

In this episode of the Sapien Podcast, Chris Krueger joins the show as a new co-host along with host Brian Sanders. They introduce the podcast as a fun, unplanned discussion about health, fitness, and hormone optimization. The hosts share personal fitness stories and emphasize the importance of a holistic approach to health, advocating for living naturally and avoiding artificial supplementation like TRT. They critique Brian Johnson's extreme health regimens and promote practical, actionable steps for achieving and maintaining elite health without extensive gym workouts or complex diet plans. SHOW NOTES: 00:00 Introduction to the Sapien Podcast 01:11 Fitness and Hormone Optimization 01:25 Generational Fitness and Relatability 01:43 Chris's Fitness Feats and Midlife Reflections 04:57 The Importance of Staying Active 05:38 Family Dynamics and Health Advice 08:01 The Sapien Lifestyle and Hormone Balance 14:16 Insulin and Metabolic Health 17:31 Raw Milk and Sapien Center Community 18:42 Farmer's Market Raw Milk Prices 20:43 Brian Johnson's Cult-Like Brunch 22:03 The Profit in Food Processing 25:31 Debunking Diet Myths   BEEF TALLOW PRODUCTS: NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post    Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

22 Okt 35min

Part 228 - Dr. Doug McGuff on High-Intensity Training, Recovery, and the Truth About Nutrition

Part 228 - Dr. Doug McGuff on High-Intensity Training, Recovery, and the Truth About Nutrition

Dr. Doug McGuff is an emergency physician, exercise researcher, and co-author of Body by Science. Known for his pioneering work in high-intensity resistance training, McGuff blends decades of medical practice with deep knowledge of physiology to reveal how short, focused workouts can yield extraordinary health benefits. He also runs training studios in South Carolina that specialize in safe, supervised strength training. In this episode of Peak Human, Brian Sanders and Dr. McGuff dive into why most people misunderstand exercise, the dangers of overtraining, and how nutrition and movement fit together for long-term health. They cover everything from the "12-minute workout" to the role of myokines, why VO₂ max is misunderstood, and how subsidies and processed foods hijacked the human diet. This conversation reframes what it truly means to build strength, resilience, and health for life. Show Notes: 03:00 Dr. McGuff's Background: Emergency Medicine & Strength Training 07:00 Adaptive Resistance Training (ARX) & How It Works 14:00 The Physiology of Strength: Motor Units & True Failure 22:00 The "12-Minute Workout" – Time Efficiency & Maximum Results 25:00 Overtraining, PEDs, and the Myths of Modern Fitness Culture 28:00 Long-Term Damage from Inefficient Training Methods 30:00 You Can't Out-Exercise a Bad Diet 33:00 The Straight Line Between You and the Sun – Whole Food Nutrition 44:00 Debunking the Meat & Gout Myth 48:00 Eat Densely, Move Intensely – Rethinking Fitness Advice 49:00 Cardio Myths, VO₂ Max, and the Zone 2 Obsession 56:00 What Really Correlates With Longevity: Adaptation, Not Numbers BEEF TALLOW PRODUCTS: NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

24 Sep 1h 14min

Part 227 - Holistic Health, Slow Food, and Lifelong Vitality with Tara Couture

Part 227 - Holistic Health, Slow Food, and Lifelong Vitality with Tara Couture

In this episode of Peak Human, host Brian Sanders welcomes back Tara Couture. Tara, a renowned advocate for the Sapien lifestyle, shares insights into her holistic approach to health, which includes growing her own food and embracing a nutrient-dense diet. The discussion covers various topics, including nutrition, lifestyle factors, nature, hormone optimization for both men and women, and practical tips for adopting this lifestyle even in urban settings. Tara also discusses her new book, 'Radiance of the Ordinary,' which explores the profound rewards of living authentically and nourishing one's body. Brian also highlights the benefits of natural supplements like oyster pills for hormone optimization. A must-listen for anyone interested in sustainable living and holistic health. Show Notes: 00:15 Tara's Lifestyle and Farmstead 00:59 Nutrition and Lifestyle 07:46 Raising Healthy Children 15:36 Cooking and Food Preparation 31:45 Travel and Eating Healthy 35:10 Carbs and Diet Adjustments 36:42 Exploring the Benefits of Carbs 38:00 Introducing Tara's Book: Radiance of the Ordinary 38:46 The Dichotomies of Life and Embracing Mortality 43:33 The Importance of Real Food and Nutrition 48:13 Men's Health and Hormones 57:41 The Simplicity of Whole Foods 01:05:54 The Gift of a Healthy Body BEEF TALLOW PRODUCTS: NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Tara's Book: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/798098/radiance-of-the-ordinary-by-tara-couture/ Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

3 Sep 1h 12min

Part 226 - Biohacking and Homesteading: Bridging the Gap with Michael Kummer

Part 226 - Biohacking and Homesteading: Bridging the Gap with Michael Kummer

In this episode, Brian Sanders chats with Michael Kummer about his multifaceted approach to health and wellness, which combines elements of biohacking, fitness, and homesteading. Kummer, a proponent of the 'Sapien' philosophy, emphasizes a diet and lifestyle that closely mimic natural human behaviors. The discussion covers Michael's fitness routine, which involves minimal gym time, his creation of an accessible fitness program, and his unique perspective on the synergy between biohacking and homesteading. They delve into the issue of modern diets, stress, and lifestyle factors impacting health, using Austria as a case study to highlight these trends. Kummer also shares insights into his family's transition to a homesteading lifestyle and offers practical tips for integrating these principles into various lifestyles.   Try the oyster pills! https://nosetotail.org/products/pure-oyster   Show Notes: 02:18 Biohacking vs. Natural Living 04:12 Homesteading and Food Production 08:45 Health Impacts of Modern Lifestyle 12:03 Traditional Food Preparation Techniques 24:41 The Importance of Muscle Mass 28:12 Austrian Lifestyle and Longevity 33:02 Traditional Austrian Diet: Then and Now 33:16 Impact of World War II on Diet and Lifestyle 35:32 Modern Austrian Diet and Health Trends 37:46 Comparing Health Outcomes: Austria vs. USA 45:38 Personal Fat Threshold and Its Implications 51:52 Homesteading and Sustainable Living 54:21 Balancing Modern Life with Traditional Practices 58:21 The Role of Community in Homesteading 01:03:13 Supplements and Whole Foods for Optimal Health   BEEF TALLOW PRODUCTS: NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post    Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

13 Aug 1h 6min

Part 225 - Unlocking the Secrets of Satiety Per Calorie with Dr. Ted Naiman

Part 225 - Unlocking the Secrets of Satiety Per Calorie with Dr. Ted Naiman

In this episode of Peak Human, host Brian Sanders interviews Dr. Ted Naiman, discussing the concept of satiety per calorie and its implications for diet and health. They dive into the importance of understanding different diet patterns, focusing on high-protein, nutrient-dense foods, and avoiding overly processed foods. The conversation covers the four pillars of satiety per calorie: protein percentage, energy density, fiber content, and hedonics. Dr. Naman also talks about his new book 'Satiety Per Calorie,' which aims to provide a comprehensive understanding of diet and nutrition, helping people make informed food choices to maintain optimal body composition effortlessly. The episode concludes with discussions on the benefits of natural exercise routines and natural supplements for overall health.   Try the oyster pills! https://nosetotail.org/products/pure-oyster   Show notes   00:28 Understanding Diets and Nutrition 01:28 Exercise and Fitness Insights 02:09 Oyster Pills and Testosterone Boost 03:15 Daily Life and Health Philosophy 03:53 Satiety and Nutrient Density 05:38 The PE Diet and Satiety Per Calorie 06:34 Explaining Diet Patterns and Health Outcomes 12:48 Practical Tips for Diet and Exercise 41:09 Understanding Protein Leverage and Obesity 44:07 Can You Get Fat on Protein? 45:47 Nutrient Calories vs. Energy Calories 49:33 The Four Pillars of Satiety Per Calorie 54:42 The Role of Fiber in Satiety 01:01:38 Energy Density and Caloric Intake 01:07:01 The Liver's Role in Metabolism   REGENERATIVE PRODUCTS: NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post    Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

6 Aug 1h 14min

Part 224- Boosting Health with Oysters: Conversations on Deep Nutrition with Marine Biologist Stephen Kavanagh

Part 224- Boosting Health with Oysters: Conversations on Deep Nutrition with Marine Biologist Stephen Kavanagh

In this episode of Peak Human, host Brian Sanders delves into a comprehensive discussion with marine biologist Stephen Kavanagh, an expert in shellfish and particularly oysters. Brian and Stephen explore the nutritional benefits of oysters, including their historical significance in human evolution and their roles in promoting testosterone, immunity, and overall health. Stephen details his artisanal processes at his facility in Ireland, emphasizing the purity and nutrient density of oysters used in their products. The conversation expands into broader themes of deep nutrition, the slow food movement, and the importance of returning to nature's ratios in our diets. Listeners also receive insights into the issues surrounding processed foods and modern health epidemics like obesity.    Try the oyster pills! https://nosetotail.org/products/pure-oyster   Show Notes: 02:25 The Journey of Oyster Processing and Supplement Manufacturing 06:02 The Aphrodisiac Effect of Oysters 10:00 Nutritional Benefits and Historical Significance of Oysters 14:18 The Importance of Real Food and Avoiding Processed Foods 15:03 Challenges in the Oyster Industry and Food Lies 20:06 The Synergy of Nutrients and Fortified Foods 26:49 Ancient Diets and the Role of Oysters in Human Evolution 28:48 The Nutritional Power of Oysters 29:41 Evolutionary Benefits of Oysters 31:21 Human Connection to Marine Life 32:17 Oysters and Water Quality 33:01 Oyster Pure: Quality and Testing 34:06 Personal Health Benefits of Oyster Supplements 35:29 Challenges in Marketing Oyster Supplements 43:39 The Slow Food Movement   BEEF TALLOW PRODUCTS: NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post    Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

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