Part 36 - Dr. Mark Cucuzzella & Zach Bitter on Fat Adapted Running, Fine Tuning Your Body, and Helping the Community

Part 36 - Dr. Mark Cucuzzella & Zach Bitter on Fat Adapted Running, Fine Tuning Your Body, and Helping the Community

Today we have a double header with 2 great figures as well as athletes in the low carb community.

Zach Bitter is the 100 mile American record holder and 12 hour world record holder for ultramarathons. He hosts the Human Performance Outliers podcast with Dr. Shawn Baker and has learned many lessons from amazing people along the way. He has wealth of knowledge of fat adapted athletics and fueling himself with meat while healing his body.

But first we have Dr. Mark Cucuzzella who is a Professor of Medicine at West Virginia University medical school, Fellow of the American Academy of Family Physicians, a Family physician for 20 years, and a Lt Col in the US Air Force Reserves. He's doing such great work in his hospital and community and has implemented some very beneficial programs. He's a great guy and was a big supporter of the film early on.

He brings up that Zach Bitter was actually in the FASTER study that previous podcast guest Dr. Jeff Volek famously did that rewrote the textbooks on fat oxidation. Lot's of good stuff her beyond running!

Thanks again for helping us finish the Indiegogo campaign. We hit our goal, but that certainly wasn't the amount needed to finish the film. You can still preorder a copy of Food Lies on Indiegogo by clicking through FoodLies.org. Get the limited edition Eat Meat shirt there and check out the other perks - that's at FoodLies.org.

A quick update about me - I just started training for a Decathlon at UCLA. I'm going to do it running on meat and fat. Many of you probably saw the video of me pole vaulting for the first time in over 16 years on social media. This is going to be awesome. Everyone there thinks I'm insane for doing it at 35 while never having done most of the events before, let alone all of them in 2 days at the Masters Championships in Iowa. Also the mostly eating meat, fish, and eggs thing is really tripping them out. Follow along on social media. Also I'll have a totally unrelated big announcement in the upcoming weeks. Stay tuned - I'm very excited. Now here's Mark and Zach.

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Show notes

Zach Bitter

  • Hosts the Human Performance Outliers podcast with Dr. Shawn Baker
  • He holds the 100 mile American record with an average pace of 7 minutes per mile
  • He also holds the world record for farthest distance run in 12 hours
  • He spent the first half of his running career on the conventional high carb diet that all runners believe is best
  • He followed a whole foods approach with lots of whole grains, fruits, and vegetables - no processed foods or junk food
  • At age 24/25 he was having some bad symptoms that shouldn't face a young man in his prime
  • He wasn't sleeping well, he didn't have sustained energy throughout the day, and had poor recovery after workouts
  • He looked towards nutrition as a cure and found the low carb, high fat diet
  • Got turned on to Dr. Phinney and Dr. Volek early on so he had a solid approach to transitioning into fat-adaptation correctly
  • He transitioned in the off-season and sleep and energy immediately improved
  • Recovery and mobility greatly improved after races once fat-adapted
  • What are some other sports where it's good to be fat-adapted?
  • It seems to be dependent on how soon you're going to train again. If it's only once per day it seems carbs aren't really necessary. 2 sessions per day, probably yes.
  • He only needs carbs when doing intensity plus high volume. Either one separately he doesn't.
  • How he got into the carnivore world
  • He's done 73 podcast episodes with various experts and has learned a lot
  • 2 big things are that vegetables aren't really necessary it seems and there's a lot of myths about protein that are turning out to not be true. There's probably no such thing as too much protein
  • My ultra simplistic theory is that animal foods are +1, processed foods are -1, and plant foods are just neutral (or 0). Plant foods aren't doing much for you other than taking up space in your stomach from things that could be worse. The real nutrition is from the animal foods.
  • He agrees with this and builds his meals around fatty meat, eggs, and some full fat dairy
  • He ferments his own vegetables
  • If you have digestive problems try doing only animal foods and add stuff back in slowly and carefully to track it
  • Hunter gatherers used to eat (and still do) fermented plant matter out of animal's stomachs, especially in cold environments when that was their only vegetation
  • Check out the HPO podcast he does with Shawn Baker
  • Zach does running and nutrition coaching - find him at zachbitter.com
  • He's on twitter at twitter.com/zbitter and Instagram at instagram.com/zachbitter


Mark Cucuzzella

SHOW NOTES

  • Mark is a doctor in West Virginia doing great things for his community and grew up as a runner
  • He's appeared in a lot of big news articles and news segments over the years https://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/magazine/running-christopher-mcdougall.html
  • https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6112350
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1dyKDrkABc
  • His website https://www.drmarksdesk.com
  • He recently wrote the book Run For Your Life which I've read and recommend to any runner https://www.amazon.com/Run-Your-Life-Without-Well-Being/dp/110194630X/
  • He created the Efficient Running Project for the US Air Force https://www.drmarksdesk.com/usaf-efficient-running
  • He almost made the olympic trials for the marathon but was plagued by injuries and almost quit before taking health into his own hands and also running barefoot or almost barefoot
  • He was able to keep running and has a streak of 30 years of under a 3 hour marathon
  • He opened a running store and has organized tons of runs & events for adults and kids and got the community a lot more active
  • He bought into the low fat high carb diet HUGE waking up at 2am eating more cereal he was so hungry
  • He was in charge of figuring out why people in the Air Force kept failing the fitness tests
  • This was in 2002 and he saw the Gary Taubes article What if it's All Been a Big Fat Lie? https://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/magazine/what-if-it-s-all-been-a-big-fat-lie.html
  • As a doctor he always has learned from his patients. He asked auditoriums full of recruits who has lost 50 pounds or more and kept it off for a year? The only answer was "I gave up bread, or I gave up soda, or I did Paleo, or I did Atkins"
  • He also is a professor at WVU writing papers, etc.
  • He started a program at his hospital that removed all sugary drinks
  • 80% of people in a hospital have insulin resistance and/or metabolic syndrome why would we be giving them a toxin like sugar?
  • The staff supported him in this after getting healthier and losing weight by cutting sugar and carbs
  • He helped get double dollars for food stamps at the farmers market https://youtu.be/k5zptL5c9mI
  • #1 thing purchased with food stamps (now called SNAP) in America is soda!!
  • He's also starting programs to help people make better choices at dollar stores
  • I think "food deserts" are a myth. It's just information. You don't need fresh fruit and veg to be healthy. You can get meat, eggs, and canned fish anywhere in America within a few blocks
  • Food industry and advertisements are working against us
  • EAT Lancet debunking
  • His blog post on this http://naturalrunningcenter.com/2019/01/27/eatlancet/
  • He's part of the Nutrition Coalition with Nina Teicholz
  • I grew up running barefoot in Hawaii
  • Human evolution and persistence hunting
  • Daniel Lieberman comes up again who's the Harvard professor I had an unpleasant call with
  • Running shouldn't be about burning calories it should be about being efficient
  • His comprehensive article on fat adapted running http://naturalrunningcenter.com/2017/02/19/simple-food-rules-2/
  • Zach was actually part of the FASTER study by Phinney and Volek https://www.metabolismjournal.com/article/S0026-0495(15)00334-0/abstract
  • The textbooks say humans can only oxidize 0.8 grams per minute but in the study they doubled that. Dr. Mark did it himself and measured 2.0 grams of fat/min
  • HIs heart rate dropped down significantly after only 1 minute because he is in such good shape and running so efficiently on fat - great for recovery
  • If you're a medical professional and would like to make changes in your community or otherwise you can contact him at afrundoc@gmail.com
  • Dr. Eric Westman is a great doctor doing low carb for decades with his patients and having great success https://www.dukehealth.org/find-doctors-physicians/eric-c-westman-md-mhs
  • http://DietDoctor.com
  • Dr. Robert Lustig's "The Complete Skinny on Obesity" https://youtu.be/moQZd1-BC0Y
  • Even though the campaign is over you can still preorder the film and get the great perks

Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post

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Part 224- Boosting Health with Oysters: Conversations on Deep Nutrition with Marine Biologist Stephen Kavanagh

Part 224- Boosting Health with Oysters: Conversations on Deep Nutrition with Marine Biologist Stephen Kavanagh

In this episode of Peak Human, host Brian Sanders delves into a comprehensive discussion with marine biologist Stephen Kavanagh, an expert in shellfish and particularly oysters. Brian and Stephen explore the nutritional benefits of oysters, including their historical significance in human evolution and their roles in promoting testosterone, immunity, and overall health. Stephen details his artisanal processes at his facility in Ireland, emphasizing the purity and nutrient density of oysters used in their products. The conversation expands into broader themes of deep nutrition, the slow food movement, and the importance of returning to nature's ratios in our diets. Listeners also receive insights into the issues surrounding processed foods and modern health epidemics like obesity.    Try the oyster pills! https://nosetotail.org/products/pure-oyster   Show Notes: 02:25 The Journey of Oyster Processing and Supplement Manufacturing 06:02 The Aphrodisiac Effect of Oysters 10:00 Nutritional Benefits and Historical Significance of Oysters 14:18 The Importance of Real Food and Avoiding Processed Foods 15:03 Challenges in the Oyster Industry and Food Lies 20:06 The Synergy of Nutrients and Fortified Foods 26:49 Ancient Diets and the Role of Oysters in Human Evolution 28:48 The Nutritional Power of Oysters 29:41 Evolutionary Benefits of Oysters 31:21 Human Connection to Marine Life 32:17 Oysters and Water Quality 33:01 Oyster Pure: Quality and Testing 34:06 Personal Health Benefits of Oyster Supplements 35:29 Challenges in Marketing Oyster Supplements 43:39 The Slow Food Movement   BEEF TALLOW PRODUCTS: NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post    Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

31 Juli 56min

Part 223 – Mark Sisson on Metabolic Flexibility, Alcohol, Fiber, and the Real Secrets to Longevity

Part 223 – Mark Sisson on Metabolic Flexibility, Alcohol, Fiber, and the Real Secrets to Longevity

Mark Sisson, 72 and still shredded, returns to Peak Human for a powerful conversation on what real healthspan looks like — not chasing 180 years with futuristic tech, but thriving into your 90s with energy, strength, and vitality. As the founder of the Primal Blueprint, Mark brings decades of wisdom on metabolic flexibility, minimalist training, and practical ancestral living. In this episode, Brian and Mark discuss how to optimize metabolism, how to train smarter (not harder), the real deal with fiber, alcohol, hydration, and carbs — and why metabolic flexibility is the key to enjoying life without strict rules, guilt, or orthorexia. Try the oyster pills! https://nosetotail.org/products/pure-oyster Show Notes: 02:00 The Primal Blueprint and 25 Years of Low Carb Living 04:00 Minimum Effective Dose – Why Mark Hates Overtraining 11:30 Redefining Metabolic Flexibility 14:00 Burning Carbs and Fat – The Joy of Not Being Rigid 18:00 Why Unsustainable Diets Always Fail 20:30 The European Bread Exception – Healing the Gut for Freedom 24:00 Alcohol, Red Wine & the Spectrum of Acceptable Foods 27:30 Fiber is Overrated – Healing IBS with Collagen & Meat 34:00 What Stool Really Is – Busting Fiber Myths 39:00 The Problem with Sugar Diets & Misguided Trends 44:00 You're Not Dehydrated – The Hydration Hype Exposed 49:00 Do We Really Need Electrolytes All the Time? 52:00 Sunlight: Powerful, But Not Without Risk REGENERATIVE PRODUCTS: NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

23 Juli 1h 6min

Part 222 – Metabolic Freedom, Identity Change & the Myth of Snacking w/ Ben Azadi

Part 222 – Metabolic Freedom, Identity Change & the Myth of Snacking w/ Ben Azadi

Ben Azadi joins Peak Human for a powerful, wide-ranging conversation on what it really takes to reclaim your metabolic health in a world of processed food, misinformation, and identity confusion. As the founder of Keto Kamp and bestselling author of Metabolic Freedom, Ben breaks down the biological and psychological barriers to health—from insulin resistance and the dangers of constant snacking to the mindset shifts required to become someone who actually lives in alignment with vitality and longevity. Host Brian Sanders and Ben dive deep into topics like fasting, hormone signaling, body recomposition, and the power of intention. This episode is as practical as it is inspiring, offering a blend of science, ancestral wisdom, and self-mastery. Try the oyster pills! https://nosetotail.org/products/pure-oyster Show Notes: 01:15 – Meet Ben Azadi: Real food, metabolic freedom, and seed oil awareness 03:10 – The Seed Oil Allergy Card: How to navigate restaurants safely 06:00 – Metabolic Flexibility 101: From sugar burner to fat burner 08:45 – Insulin Resistance is the Root: Why fasting insulin matters more than blood sugar 11:15 – Real vs. Processed Carbs: Potatoes vs. potato chips 13:00 – The Snacking Epidemic: 17 to 23 eating events a day 14:45 – Grazing = Aging: How frequent eating ages you faster 17:30 – mTOR vs. Autophagy: Bodybuilding, aging, and metabolic balance 20:00 – The Hayflick Limit: Cellular aging explained 21:45 – Longevity Mode vs. Growth Mode: Living in cycles 31:15 – Don't Be a Keto Zealot: Even Keto Kamp flexes 36:30 – Nutrient Density Always Wins: Why sugar fasting is not sustainable 40:15 – Metabolic Inflexibility on Both Ends: Fat burners can get stuck too 41:00 – The Diet Culture Trap: Why most diets fail 43:30 – The Subconscious Self-Image: Why your beliefs keep sabotaging you 47:45 – Sticky Note Protocol: The 30-day mental reprogramming 56:30 – Real Food & Movement = Real Results 57:30 – Third World vs. First World: Why simple food wins 58:30 – Final Takeaways: Real food, movement, and mindset still winno REGENERATIVE PRODUCTS: NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

9 Juli 1h 2min

Part 221 - Easy Fat Loss with Natural Hormone Optimization w/ Chris Kruger

Part 221 - Easy Fat Loss with Natural Hormone Optimization w/ Chris Kruger

Chris Kruger returns to Peak Human for an electrifying, no-nonsense breakdown of why the calorie paradigm is broken, how hormone health is the real foundation of lifelong fitness, and what he calls the "Forever Jeans" formula — a simple, powerful way to track your health without lab work or complex diagnostics. In this episode, host Brian Sanders returns after an eight-month hiatus with an update on his documentary 'Food Lies' and a deep dive conversation with fitness expert Chris Krueger. They discuss the myths surrounding diet and exercise, emphasizing the importance of natural hormone optimization over artificial supplementation like TRT. Krueger outlines a holistic approach to health that targets core strength, mobility, balance, and proper nutrition. The conversation also covers practical, actionable insights for achieving optimal health and fitness without the need for extensive gym workouts or rigid diet plans. The episode concludes with practical tips, such as leveraging whole foods and natural supplements like oyster capsules, to naturally boost essential hormones. Show notes: 00:00 Intro – What's New with Brian Sanders & Food Lies 02:15 Hormone Optimization Over TRT – Why Natural Matters 04:25 The Forever Jeans Formula – Waist-to-Height Ratio Simplified 08:55 Hormones vs. Willpower – Why You're Not Broken, the System Is 14:40 You Don't Need a Gym – The 14-Minute Workout That Changes Lives 21:10 Hunger Means Hunter – Rethinking Hunger, Leptin, and Satiety 28:00 The Leptin Trigger – Why Protein is the Key to Real Satiety 33:00 Snacks Are for Fat Kids? – Fasting, Insulin, and Hormonal Wins 35:00 The Flywheel of Hormonal Momentum vs. the Spiral of Willpower 44:20 How Women Can Optimize Naturally – Fat Loss and the 28-Day Cycle 48:00 The Billionaire with a Heart Attack – A Cautionary Tale 55:00 Helpful vs. Unhelpful Foods – A Simpler Way to Think About Diet 01:02:00 The Fitness Industry's Scam – What Really Works REGENERATIVE PRODUCTS: NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

18 Juni 1h 22min

Part 220 -  What if Carbs Aren't the Problem? w/ Dr. Randy Johns & Dr. Rob Vasquez

Part 220 - What if Carbs Aren't the Problem? w/ Dr. Randy Johns & Dr. Rob Vasquez

Dr. Rob Vasquez and Dr. Randy Johns, known as The Happy Healthy Guys, wellness experts dedicated to transforming lives through natural health and wellness practices. With a focus on nutrition, detoxification, and holistic living, they aim to empower individuals to achieve optimal health and vitality. Dr. Vasquez and Dr. Johns are passionate about educating others on the importance of a balanced lifestyle, free from toxins and harmful habits. They share their knowledge through online content, public speaking, and wellness programs, helping people across the globe lead happier, healthier lives.   In this podcast episode Dr. Rob and Dr. Randy, share their journey from traditional medical paths to embracing chiropractic care and holistic health approaches. Both doctors recount their personal experiences with health challenges that led them to question the conventional allopathic model, which often focuses on symptom management rather than addressing root causes. Their journey led them to explore various diets and health practices, initially adhering to calorie-restrictive models but eventually shifting towards a more holistic understanding of nutrition. The hosts also discuss their approach to improving metabolic health by addressing common misconceptions and providing practical strategies. They emphasize the importance of metabolic flexibility, explaining how consuming the right types of carbohydrates can actually improve sleep and overall health, contrary to popular low-carb diets. They also talk about the dangers of consuming high-oxalate foods like spinach and almonds, which can lead to serious health issues, including kidney problems. Join their challenge for FREE https://www.h2thinchallenge.com/sapien    Show notes:   [00:02:00] Shift from Allopathic to Chiropractic Care [00:09:00] Trusting the Body's Natural Healing Process [00:11:00] Transition to Nutrition and Metabolism [00:16:00] Evolution of Their Health Philosophy [00:18:00] Rejecting the Calories-in, Calories-out Model [00:20:00] Low Carb Diet Journey,Health Decline and Realization [00:30:00] Reevaluating Dietary Choices [00:37:00] Key Principles for Sustainable Health [00:53:00]High Oxalate foods  [00:55:00] Metabolic flexibility

12 Sep 20241h 19min

Part 219 - Dr. Cate Shanahan on A Root Cause For All Disease?

Part 219 - Dr. Cate Shanahan on A Root Cause For All Disease?

Dr. Cate Shanahan is a board-certified family physician and expert in nutrition, focusing on the intersection of diet and metabolic health. She is the author of Deep Nutrition, The Fatburn Fix, and Dark Calories where she advocates for traditional diets rich in whole foods, emphasizing the benefits of healthy fats and nutrient-dense foods. With a background in biochemistry and genetics, Dr. Shanahan has dedicated her career to understanding how modern processed foods contribute to chronic disease and poor health outcomes. Her work has influenced numerous health professionals and individuals seeking to improve their well-being through dietary changes.

14 Aug 20241h 19min

90 Second Podcast - 3 Amazing Health Transformations

90 Second Podcast - 3 Amazing Health Transformations

Hello everyone, welcome back to Peak Human. This is a different kind of episode. It's going to be three 90 second podcasts. It's my new idea to fill in the gaps between peak human episodes. I do these short episodes with really interesting people I find around the internet with amazing health stories, valuable stuff in 90 seconds, really cool reels. I  put together, put them out on Instagram and also bundle them up and put them out as a little podcast. And so, yeah, in the meantime, go back and listen to the old episodes. Start back at episode one. So many great ones out there. And you may have heard Nose to Tail, my company is not selling meat anymore. We gave it a good run, but there's no profit on real food. I learned how the world works.  The world is the way it is because there's such a high profit margin on processed foods And if you don't have that huge profit margin, it's very hard to stay in business. So we've been supporting our regenerative ranchers here in texas for years now. We're going to sell the last bit of meat this monday We extended it. So if you're listening to this, it's June 12th, we're extending this to Monday, June 17th. And then we're going to stop. But of course we still have our amazing beef tallow body care products, hair, food, skin, food, deodorant, all the things. And we also have our biltong with liver too. We have the sticks made of grass fed meat, made of grass fed beef with liver. Best way to get your organs on the go.  So get that at http://nosetail.org get the last of our pasture raised pork by Monday, June 17th and enjoy the short three podcasts!

12 Juni 20246min

Part 218 - How to Opt Out of the Sickcare System w/ Andy Schoonover

Part 218 - How to Opt Out of the Sickcare System w/ Andy Schoonover

Andy Schoonover is the founder and CEO of CrowdHealth, a company that aims to revolutionize the healthcare payment system through crowdfunding. Schoonover's journey into healthcare innovation was sparked by a personal experience when his daughter needed a simple medical procedure, resulting in an $8,000 bill that their insurance refused to cover. This frustration with the traditional health insurance system led him to create a more transparent and supportive alternative. CrowdHealth operates in all 50 states and offers members a way to manage healthcare costs through a monthly subscription model and crowdfunding for medical expenses. The platform emphasizes transparency, affordability, and personalized support, providing services such as bill negotiation, discounted prescriptions, and access to virtual care. In this episode Andy Schoonover and I talk about the foundation and mission of CrowdHealth, aiming to revolutionize the traditional insurance industry. Schoonover narrates his motivations stemming from personal dissatisfaction with conventional healthcare systems, leading to the creation of an alternative that promotes healthier lifestyles and aligns financial incentives with wise health choices. The discussion broadens to the concept of rationalizing detrimental behaviors by large entities for financial gain, and how such practices negatively impact society's well-being.   Get CrowdHealth for only $99 for the first 3 months with code SAPIEN  JoinCrowdHealth.com   Show notes: 00:12 Introducing Crowd Health: A New Approach to Healthcare 03:58 Building a Parallel Health System: The Crowd Health Mission 01:50 Andy's Journey: From Healthcare Professional to Revolutionizing the Industry 11:59 Navigating the Healthcare System: Personal Stories and Solutions 32:55 Understanding the Root Cause: Lifestyle Changes for Better Health 38:11 Redefining Diet: From Carnivore to Sapien 42:31 Understanding Metabolic Health  43:48 The Slow Danger of Processed Foods 01:00:54 The Spiritual Aspects of Health   REGENERATIVE PRODUCTS: NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post   Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

16 Maj 20241h 12min

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