EP. 394: The Vaxxed vs Unvaxxed Vaccine Debate with Dr. Joel Gator Warsh

EP. 394: The Vaxxed vs Unvaxxed Vaccine Debate with Dr. Joel Gator Warsh

In this episode of The Birth Lounge Podcast, HeHe sits down with Dr. Joel Gator Warsh, a pediatrician known for his refreshingly transparent and evidence-based approach to children’s health. Together, they unpack one of the most emotionally charged topics in parenting—vaccines.

HeHe and Dr. Gator talk openly about the gaps in vaccine research, the importance of truly informed consent, and what every parent deserves to understand before making decisions for their family. They explore everything from the new RSV vaccine and aluminum adjuvants to SIDS and medical ethics—all through the lens of curiosity, compassion, and critical thinking.

This isn’t about fear or finger-pointing—it’s about facts, trust, and empowering you to make confident, informed choices for your baby.

00:00 Introduction to Vaccine Debate

01:16 The Birth Lounge Podcast Introduction

01:23 Debunking the 'Big Baby' Myth

03:32 Introducing the 'Pushing Out Your Big Ass Baby' Course

05:29 Vaccine Exploration Series Recap

05:50 In-Depth Vaccine Discussion with Dr. Joel Gator

07:46 Challenges in Vaccine Research and Public Trust

12:21 Ethics and Future of Vaccine Studies

45:42 Pushback Against Vaccines

46:18 The Need for Open Dialogue

47:30 Personal Experiences and Public Trust

50:16 Ethical Dilemmas in Pediatric Care

57:33 Herd Immunity and Vaccine Efficacy

01:06:13 The Quest for Clean Deodorant

01:13:14 Complexities of Vaccine Safety

01:19:35 Chronic Disease and Medical Humility

01:29:00 Questioning Vaccine Safety Standards

01:30:28 The Controversy of Vaccine Skepticism

01:33:09 The Need for Vaccinated vs. Unvaccinated Studies

01:39:31 SIDS and Vaccines: A Complex Relationship

01:46:07 Aluminum in Vaccines: Concerns and Debates

01:53:16 The New RSV Vaccine: What You Need to Know

02:01:03 Final Thoughts and Gratitude

Guest Bio:

Joel Warsh aka DrJoelGator of the popular parenting Instagram account and substack is a Board-Certified Pediatrician in Los Angeles, California who specializes in Parenting, Wellness and Integrative Medicine. He is the author of multiple books including his latest, Between a Shot and a Hard Place: Tackling Difficult Vaccine Questions with Balance, Data, and Clarity,

He grew up in Toronto, Canada and completed a Master’s Degree in Epidemiology before earning his medical degree from Thomas Jefferson Medical College.

He completed his Pediatric Medicine training at Children’s Hospital of Los Angeles and then worked in private practice in Beverly Hills before founding his current practice, Integrative Pediatrics.

Dr. Gator has published research in peer-reviewed journals on topics including childhood injuries, obesity and physical activity.

He has been featured in numerous documentaries, films, summits, podcasts and articles.

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Ep. 195: An OBGYN and His Wife’s Birth Experience Outside of the System

Ep. 195: An OBGYN and His Wife’s Birth Experience Outside of the System

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Ep: 194: A Precipitous Labor Birth Story

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Ep. 193: Advocating for Unbiased Care in a Bigger Body with Jen McLellan

Ep. 193: Advocating for Unbiased Care in a Bigger Body with Jen McLellan

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Ep. 192: Bandl’s Ring with M’Kaela Tremaine

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Ep: 191 Bottle Flow Rates and Choosing the Right Bottle with Britt Pados

Ep: 191 Bottle Flow Rates and Choosing the Right Bottle with Britt Pados

Britt Pados is a Neonatal Nurse Practitioner & Nurse Researcher AND founder of Infant Feeding Care.  Britt is a neonatal nurse practitioner with a clinical background in the neonatal intensive care unit (NICU). She has a PhD in Nursing focused on feeding in infants and has done research on flow rates from bottle nipples. She owns Infant Feeding Care where she provides breastfeeding and bottle-feeding support to infants in Massachusetts. Follow along with Britt here: www.infantfeedingcare.com

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Ep. 190: An Unassisted Birth Story with Dr. Sarah Leahy

Ep. 190: An Unassisted Birth Story with Dr. Sarah Leahy

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Ep. 189: Navigating Pregnancy After An Eating Disorder

Ep. 189: Navigating Pregnancy After An Eating Disorder

HeHe sits down with Sarah King to discuss navigating pregnancy after an eating disorder.  Sarah and her team of allied health professionals specialize in helping women ditch disordered eating, recover their period from hypothalamic amenorrhea, and improve their body image so they can regain their health and their life.   Follow Sarah: www.sarahlizking.com

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Ep. 188: Sympysis Pubic Dysfunction with Krystle Howard

Ep. 188: Sympysis Pubic Dysfunction with Krystle Howard

Krystle Howald DPT educates and empowers women to take hold of their physical health. She specializes in orthopedic and women's health- treating patients in her clinic Empower Movement Physical Therapy in Oconomowoc, Wisconsin. She also owns Expecting and Empowered- a prenatal and postpartum business aimed at helping women navigate both periods with safe and effective workouts. E + E also disseminates as much free information as possible to help every single woman understand the pregnancy and postpartum process better.  Krystle is the co-founder of Expecting and Empowered. After going through our first pregnancies (our first kiddos are 6 months apart) we realized that women were being told, "Just listen to your body and do whatever you were doing before pregnancy." This type of message wasn't going to cut it, and women deserve better. Our DREAM was to use our professional expertise to help women thrive from their pregnancy journey through postpartum. We created a roadmap for each period - one that accounts for all the changes and modifications that need to come with each phase of motherhood. We know that mamas are short on time, so our guides are made with that in mind to help you exercise efficiently to feel your best! We are mamas who are passionate about giving ALL women the knowledge and tools to empower them to feel confident in keeping their baby safe during pregnancy and to heal properly during recovery from a c-section or vaginal birth. Your Website:: Www.expectingandempowered.com

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