PM Therapy12 Nov 2025

🚀 How to Pivot Into Project Management and Then Into Leadership

Most of us don’t “plan” to become project managers, we grow into it. But how do you keep growing once you’re there?This week on PM Therapy, Mukhtar Kadiri, PMP sits down with Joey Perugino, a seasoned PM, mentor, and founder of Let’s Talk Project Management, to unpack the personal and professional reinvention every PM needs to stay relevant, confident, and fulfilled.Joey’s journey — from banking director to program manager and mentor — is a masterclass in pivoting with purpose. He shares what it really takes to lead without a title, develop strategic influence, and continuously evolve your career.💡 What You’ll Learn in This Episode

🔹How to build confidence and credibility when there’s no clear path into project management🔹The mindset shifts required to move from tactical PM to strategic leader🔹Why mentorship and community accelerate career growth🔹How to pivot, whether from PM to Scrum Master, or from task leader to strategic advisor🔹Why giving back to the PM community can transform your own career📉 Need help landing a $100K–$300K PM role? Book a free strategy call with us → https://tally.so/r/3la956🎧 Listen to PM Therapy on your favorite platforms🔹Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kuSAv0ItNewDqAh64PTph🔹YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@pmtherapypod🔹Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pm-therapy/id1812039614🤓 Want to join live for the next episode? Follow Mukhtar Kadiri, PMP on LinkedIn → https://linkedin.com/in/m-kadir🧑🏻‍🦳Keep up with Joey Peruginohttps://www.linkedin.com/in/joeyperugino/❤️ Don’t forget to like, comment & subscribe for more real conversations about career growth & leadership in project management.

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