Becoming The Warden | The Legacy and Legend that is Burl Cain
Bloody Angola: A Podcast by Jim Chapman8 Juni 2023

Becoming The Warden | The Legacy and Legend that is Burl Cain

In this episode of Bloody Angola Woody Overton and Jim Chapman tell the story of legendary Warden Burl Cain. Burl Cain was the longest serving Warden in the history of Louisiana State Penitentiary and his vision and reforms changed this historic prison forever. This docu-series is the most anticipated and sought after we have ever done on Bloody Angola Podcast and it starts now!#BloodyAngolaPodcast #BurlCain #Becomingthewarden #Louisianastatepenitentiary #PrisonWarden #Podcasts #Dixoncorrectionalinstitute #DCI #MDOCOur Sponsors for this episode have a great deal for you!GET 16 FREE MEALS PLUS FREE SHIPPING AT HELLOFRESH!HelloFresh delivers step-by-step recipes and fresh, pre-portioned ingredients right to your door. First, you set your meal plan preferences with options for carnivores, vegetarians, calorie-counters, and more. You'll choose from 30+ delicious weekly recipes carefully put together by the amazing chefs!Click Here to Take advantage of 16 FREE MEALS and FREE SHIPPING!FULL TRANSCRIPT BELOWBECOMING THE WARDEN: THE LEGACY AND LEGEND THAT IS BURL CAIN PART 1Jim: Hey, everyone, and welcome back to Bloody-
Woody: -Angola.
Jim: A podcast 142 years in the making.
Woody: The Complete Story of America's Bloodiest Prison.
Jim: And I'm Jim Chapman.
Woody: And I'm Woody Overton.
Jim: And we're back, Woody Overton.
Woody: Back in the saddle.
Jim: Back in effect.
Woody: Back in effect.
Jim: And we're bringing y'all a hell of a story today. Highly requested.
Woody: Yes. A legend.
Jim: Legend. Someone you have some experience with.
Woody: I do. I have a lot of years of experience with him. Solid dude. They can say whatever they want to. Everybody's going to have their haters or whatever. And certainly, he marches to the beat of a different drummer, but he's a visionary and has affected so many lives.
Jim: Boy, he sure has. And I'll tell you, as far as research, I've probably enjoyed researching this man more than just about anyone I've researched.
Woody: I've read his book years ago when it came out. Of course, I have the family history at Angola and all that, and of course, my personal history with him. Just super, super intelligent, super unique.
Jim: Yeah, very. I think that's a great word to describe him. And of course, if you're hanging by a thread right now trying to figure out who we're talking about, it is the legendary warden of Angola, Burl Cain. So, we're going to start off and we're just going to take you through a journey of his life.
Woody: Yeah. And I think it's so important, this research that you put together, a lot of it I didn't know, especially about the early years. And I don't know how they haven't made a movie about him yet, honestly.
Jim: It's got to be coming at some point.
Woody: Y'all, we've done a couple of series before, but not real long ones or anything. But it's going to be several parts to this. But you got to stay tuned because every one of them is going to kick you.
Jim: Yeah. So, to start off, he was born in Pitkin, Louisiana, and I was not familiar with Pitkin.
Woody: Small town in Vernon Parish.
Jim: Vernon Parish. And for those of you that are kind of wondering where Vernon Parish is, that's on the Texas line. It's in the center of the state all the way to the westernmost.
Woody: If you're familiar with Toledo Bend, the largest lake and kind of splits Louisiana. Texas too, but fantastic for fishing, all that. It's real close to that. Kind of a piney woods area, but really, really rural. Shit, there's not even any major highways to get over there. From off the Interstate 49, which runs north and south, splits the state. Shit, it's probably hour and a half, two hours from there.
Jim: Yeah. And he actually described it in an interview one time, and he said, "We didn't even have a stoplight."
Woody: Yeah, well, my hometown still doesn't have a stoplight.
Jim: [laughs] So, you think about that, folks. He went from that to warden of the largest maximum-security prison in the United States which, first of all, goes to show you that it doesn't matter where you're from, it doesn't matter, hard work and really destined. I think he was kind of touched by God to do what he does. He's 80 years old as of today.
Woody: So, he is a couple of years younger than my dad. Actually, maybe one year because my dad was born the week before Peral Harbor, and he was born on July 2nd, 1942.
Jim: And still going.
Woody: Still going, very, very healthy.
Jim: We're going to get into that.
Woody: But he grew up on a farm, y'all, that's where he developed his work ethic. And let me tell you something, this dude can work.
Jim: Let me tell you, if you're 80 years old-- look, if I make 80, I'm considering that a success. When you're 80 and you're still working, that tells you who he is as far as his work ethic is concerned. He grew up on a farm that would play a huge role in his future development. And he grew up in a very religious house.
Woody: Right. Back then, not knocking it, but a lot of people, especially ones that were raised on farms, their parents had to raise them as help. I mean, they worked.
Jim: That's right. You needed help, you had another kid.
Woody: Talking about throwing hay, tending animals and cows and everything else and working the gardens. And hey, there wasn't any PlayStations and cable TV or anything. Hell, they're lucky if they had electricity.
Jim: And you woke up 4:30 in the morning to milk them cows and do all those things.
Woody: You didn't have a problem going to bed at dark with your ass tired.
Jim: You were tired. And his household was very religious, y'all, extremely religious. He attended church, as he described it, every time the doors were open since birth. And he didn't even dance. He wasn't allowed to dance or attend dancing--[crosstalk]
Woody: And I had a lot of people that I grew up with that were the same way. That just wasn't acceptable. People talk about Bible Belt, I can't say Vernon is directly, but I know there's some count-- not counties, parishes over there that are actually dry. They don't sell alcohol. They're Bible Belt. So, down here where south Louisiana, where everything goes, and then you hit that area of the state, it was borderline to the west of Alexandria and all that, but they were really, really country, and the farther north you go, the more country getting. There's a couple of dry parishes in the state, and this area would have been one of them.
Jim: No doubt. At his age, being born in '42, he was kind of hitting those late teenage years when Elvis Presley-
Woody: Absolutely.
Jim: -was big. So, I'd love to sit him down and ask him, "How did you avoid dance when Elvis Presley came on the radio?"
Woody: He didn't have a radio.
Jim: [laughs] Yeah, that's it. That's probably exactly what he would say. "I was out there milking cows. I wasn't worried about the King." Also, Burl Cain never dreamed he would be a prison warden growing up. Of course, being from such a small town, that'd be like most people dreaming they were going to be an astronaut. It just didn't seem possible. As a matter of fact, he remembers vividly fearing Angola, as it was common for his mother to tell him, "If you don't straighten up, you're going to end up in Angola." It was a threat, matter of fact.
Woody: And one thing they did even back then, believe it or not, is most schools, once a year, certain age group of kids, they bus them to Angola. And of course, it was educational for them, and they didn't hold back. They took you down the walks and stuff like that, and they fed you the prison food, and they were like, most girls be crying and shit like that, and they're like, "I ain't never coming to this motherfucker."
Jim: Yeah. It was used as a form of threat. And so, he had another dream. And believe it or not, y'all, he wanted to be a veterinarian.
Woody: Yeah, he wanted to be a vet. And when he graduated from high school, he went to LSU Alexandria campus, y'all, that's a satellite campus, and they have one in Alexandria and one in Shreveport to do just that. But he struggled coming from a small town where the chemistry side of school basically was a fight for him. And they just didn't teach a whole lot beyond the basics, like the element charts and stuff like that at his high school. So, he switched to something that was more prevalent in the areas from and that's agriculture, education. Let me tell you something, vet school is tough. You might as well go and become a doctor. Nowadays, you got to have a four point whatever just to get in, and there's no guarantee you're going to make it. And it's heavy, heavy on sciences.
Jim: A lot of people don't realize LSU has probably the best vet school, if not one of the best in the country.
Woody: So, imagine this, coming from probably my hometown, I graduated we had 28 in my graduating class. Still don't have a red light to this day. I submit to you that his town was smaller. And back then, they didn't test for the kids to pass the test. You just got the books, you know Jim, it was a different type of education. And they were just giving your basics.
But the ag part, growing up on a farm, he already knew tons about it. And pretty much everyone in his family were teachers. So, he settled on basically just working towards a life of teaching after college, which I think is very unique now that I know him.
Jim: Right. You look back on that life and you see how those skills benefited him, even though he wasn't in the world of education when he really got going. So, he graduates from LSU in agriculture education. He starts teaching at a high school, and [chuckles]

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This episode delves into Joyce Mitchell's role in the 2015 escape of inmates Richard Matt and David Sweat from Clinton Correctional Facility, examining her personal struggles, the escape plan, the manhunt, and the intrigue surrounding her case.Timestamps01:39 Meet Joyce Mitchell14:21 The Affair and the Escape Plan16:29 The Great Escape Unfolds19:58 The Manhunt Begins25:02 Joyce Mitchell's Arrest25:55 Confessions and Consequences34:09 Sentencing and Aftermath

10 Apr 38min

Lynette Barnett and Tina Gonzales | Hybristophilia #2

Lynette Barnett and Tina Gonzales | Hybristophilia #2

In this episode of Bloody Angola, Jim brings you inside the relationship between  prison guard Lynette Barnett and convicted murderer Terry Banks, which culminated in their escape from Crossroads Correctional Center in 1999.  Jim also brings you the shocking story of correctional Officer Tina Gonzales who was caught in the midst of a sexual relationship with an inmate witnessed by 11 other inmates. “Hybristophilia” is defined as a condition that involves “a sexual attraction to individuals who commit crimes.Timestamps 04:14 Lynette's Troubled Marriage05:20 Meeting Terry Banks10:12 The Escape Plan15:13 The Escape17:27 On the Run19:54 The Search Intensifies23:01 The Arrest 24:07 Aftermath and Sentencing25:33 A New Story: Tina GonzalezSources:Stearns, Matt.  “Killer escapes prison.”  The Kansas City Star.  30 Oct 1999.Kennedy, Nicole; and Scherer, Ray.  “Guard linked to break.”  St. Joseph News-Press.  31 Oct 1999.Riley, Claudette.  “Escapee, guard are sought.”  The Springfield News-Leader.  31 Oct 1999.Associated Press.  “Officials seeking escaped…”  Lake Sun Leader.  01 Nov 1999.Associated Press.  “Search continues.”  The Kansas City Star.  02 Nov 1999.Faubion, Scott.  “Escaped inmate, guard…”  The Cameron Citizen Observer.  04 Nov 1999.Stearns, Matt.  “After weeks, questions…”  The Kansas City Star.  10 Dec 1999.Stearns, Matt.  “Police locate truck.”  The Kansas City Star.  11 Dec 1999.Stearns, Matt.  “Authorities fear prison…”  The Kansas City Star.  12 Dec 1999.Faubion, Scott.  “America’s Most Wanted…”  The Cameron Citizen Observer.  16 Dec 1999.Staff Writer.  “Runaway Con, Guard…”  CBS News.  18 Dec 1999.Associated Press.  “Murderer, guard captured.”  St. Joseph News-Press.  19 Dec 1999.Faubion, Scott; and Stark, Jerry.  “Escaped inmate, prison…”  The Cameron Citizen Observer.  23 Dec 1999.Associated Press.  “Court appearance set…”  St. Joseph News-Press.  05 Jan 2000.Gaines, Joe.  “Guard arraigned in…”  St. Joseph News-Press.  06 Jan 2000.Faubion, Scott.  “Crossroads guard arraigned…”  The Cameron Citizen Observer.  13 Jan 2000.Faubion, Scott.  “Penalty may rise…”  The Cameron Citizen Observer.  20 Jan 2000.Gaines, Joe.  “Accused guard asks…”  St. Joseph News-Press.  27 Jan 2000.Zeilstra, Stephanie.  “Reduced bond focus…”  The Cameron Citizen Observer.  03 Feb 2000.Gaines, Joe.  “Banks has hearing…”  St. Joseph News-Press.  23 Feb 2000.Zeilstra, Stephanie.  “Former inmate, guard…”  The Cameron Citizen Observer.  02 Mar 2000.Zeilstra, Stephanie.  “Bond reduction denied…”  The Cameron Citizen Observer.  09 Mar 2000.Associated Press.  “Inmate pleads innocent…”  St. Joseph News-Press.  11 Apr 2000.Associated Press.  “Ex-fugitive’s plea…”  St. Joseph News-Press.  10 May 2000.Staff Writer.  “Bond reduction denied…”  St. Joseph News-Press.  12 May 2000.Gaines, Joe.  “Ex-guard pleads…”  St. Joseph News-Press.  03 Oct 2000.Faubion, Scott.  “Former guard pleads…”  The Cameron Citizen Observer.  05 Oct 2000.Grossman, Wendy.  “Love on the run.”  The Pitch.  16 Mar 2000.

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The Execution of Jessie Hoffman

The Execution of Jessie Hoffman

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Part Three | The Executions Commence: Larry Roy

Part Three | The Executions Commence: Larry Roy

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Part Two | The Executions Commence: Christopher Sepulvado

Part Two | The Executions Commence: Christopher Sepulvado

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Part One | The Executions Commence: Jessie Hoffman

Part One | The Executions Commence: Jessie Hoffman

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Part 3 | Bobbi Parker and Randolph Dial | Hybristophilia #1

Part 3 | Bobbi Parker and Randolph Dial | Hybristophilia #1

In this episode of Bloody Angola, Jim picks up with the trial of Bobbi Parker, who faces felony charges for allegedly aiding Randolph Dial's escape following his death in prison. The trial unfolds with compelling testimonies from both sides, highlighting psychological elements like Stockholm Syndrome or was it...Hybristophilia?Timestamps03:37 Bobby Parker's Court Appearance06:19 Testimony from the Investigation08:53 Randy Parker's Testimony11:14 Uncovering Dial's Relationship with Parker13:45 Delays and Pleas in Court14:22 The Start of the Trial16:39 The Prosecution's Case18:26 Dial's Interviews and Confessions21:02 Life on the Run25:37 The Heart Attack and Consequences30:52 Verdict and Sentencing32:43 Bobby Parker's Release

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Part 2 | Bobbi Parker and Randolph Dial | Hybristophilia #1

Part 2 | Bobbi Parker and Randolph Dial | Hybristophilia #1

In this episode, kicking off the “Hybristophilia” series, which involves “a sexual attraction to individuals who commit crimes,” Jim recounts the case of Bobbi Parker, a wardens wife, who was convicted of aiding in the escape and going on the run for 10 years with convicted murderer Randolph Dial.#randolphdial #bobbiparker #hybristophilia #bloodyangola #podcast #crime Timestamps06:11 A Father's Struggle09:30 A New Life in Hiding10:28 The Capture12:55 The Psychological Battle22:12 The Name Game23:40 Dial's Health Crisis24:44 Insights from Neighbors31:02 Investigating the Truth33:38 A Conflicted Legacy35:18 The End of the Line Sources:- https://murderpedia.org/male.D/d/dial-randolph.htm.  Murderpedia.  Accessed 13 Jan 2025.- Staff Writer.  https://www.newspapers.com/image/891244790/?match=1&terms=kelly%20hogan Tulsa World.  17 Sep 1981.- Associated Press. https://www.newspapers.com/image/454026071/?match=1&terms=kelly%20hogan The Daily Oklahoman.  18 Sep 1981.- Henry, Larry.  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