Ana and Mike Face the Music
Ana and Mike get real about what creative work actually looks like behind the scenes, breaking down the economics of touring, Substack’s Nazi problem, how platforms trap creators, audiences, and the p...
13 Aug 20251h 10min
What Comes After the Big Job? with Jody Avirgan
Podcast host and producer Jody Avirgan joins us to talk about walking away from big platforms like ESPN and NPR, and what it takes to build something sustainable on your own terms. We get into the pre...
6 Aug 20251h 2min
What If Making Good Work Still Isn’t Enough? with Ian Danskin
Video essayist Ian Danskin joins us to talk about the exhausting economics of doing thoughtful work online—and what it means when your most meaningful content can’t pay the bills. From burnout to bad ...
30 Juli 20251h
How Do You Keep Going? with Bob DeRosa
Screenwriter Bob DeRosa joins us to talk about what it really takes to build a long-haul creative career—one that doesn’t go viral, but keeps going. We break down 20+ years in Hollywood by the numbers...
23 Juli 202555min
What If You Outgrow the Dream Job? with Sam Sanders
Journalist and podcast host Sam Sanders joins us to talk about what happens when the thing you thought you wanted turns out to be too small. We get into the emotional and financial cost of walking awa...
16 Juli 202552min
What Does It Take to Stay Kind in a Brutal Industry? with Josh Gondelman and Maris Kreizman
Comedian Josh Gondelman and writer Maris Kreizman join us to talk about surviving the creative economy as individuals and as a couple. We dig into the emotional labor of staying hopeful, the financial...
9 Juli 202543min
What If Fear Is What Keeps You Working? with Xochitl Gonzalez
Despite writing bestsellers and landing a Reese’s Book Club pick, Xochitl Gonzalez opens up about the lingering shame of precarity, the invisibility of working-class success, and why we need to drag m...
2 Juli 202554min
Ana and Mike Sell Out
Ana and Mike talk about what it means to sell out... financially, creatively, and emotionally. From brand deals to burnout, they ask whether survival in the creative economy means compromising your va...
25 Juni 20251h 2min
