156. The Cringiest Line in Lord of the Rings : Film Changes #42 and #43

156. The Cringiest Line in Lord of the Rings : Film Changes #42 and #43

In this episode, we look at two of the most unloved film changes from Peter Jackson’s Lord of the Rings: Arwen replacing Glorfindel and making Arwen the only one with power and agency in The Flight to the Ford.. Michael and Jonathan break down why these choices set off so many Tolkien fans, how they impact the agency of Aragorn and Frodo, and whether these moments actually improve the movies.

  • Why losing Glorfindel means losing a key link to Middle-earth’s ancient history
  • The movie’s “girl boss” approach to Arwen’s character—and what it does to the story
  • Frodo’s lost agency at the ford, and the difference between book and film
  • The most “cringeworthy” line in Lord of the Rings

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112. Are these Really the Same Elves from The Lord of the Rings? : The Hobbit #8

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111. This is why Tolkien SHOULD have rewritten The Hobbit  : The Hobbit #7

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We weren’t huge fans of Tolkien’s changes to chapter 1 of The Hobbit in his abandoned 1960 rewrite–but chapter 2 surprised us with it’s pitch-perfect changes! Some of the things we discuss are: Want ...

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110. A Brave Burglar and Deficient Dwarves : The Hobbit #6

110. A Brave Burglar and Deficient Dwarves : The Hobbit #6

Join our Free Discord Channel! It’s not that the trolls aren’t scary… or are they? Did Tolkien mean for them to be frightening? In this episode we get into how the trolls find a balance, of sorts, bet...

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109. Gandalf Gets Pushy : The Hobbit #5

109. Gandalf Gets Pushy : The Hobbit #5

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108. What Went Wrong with Tolkien’s 1960 Hobbit Rewrite : The Hobbit #4

108. What Went Wrong with Tolkien’s 1960 Hobbit Rewrite : The Hobbit #4

Join our Free Discord Channel! When Tolkien set out to rewrite The Hobbit in 1960, much was lost, but much was gained… Do the gains outweigh the losses? We review his rewritten 1st chapter of The Hobb...

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107. How the Baggins Side of Bilbo Lost : The Hobbit #3

107. How the Baggins Side of Bilbo Lost : The Hobbit #3

Join our Free Discord Channel! Bilbo loses the comfort of his home and finds that the Tookish side of his mind is starting to overcome the Baggins side We discuss: * The three things that pushed Bilbo...

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106. The Hobbit was NOT Originally in Middle-earth : The Hobbit #2

106. The Hobbit was NOT Originally in Middle-earth : The Hobbit #2

Join our Free Discord Channel! As we get into the first chapter of The Hobbit, we discuss how coming at The Hobbit from a how does this fit into the Middle-earth cosmology perspective is probably not ...

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105. Tolkien Changed The Hobbit Twice : The Hobbit #1

105. Tolkien Changed The Hobbit Twice : The Hobbit #1

Join our Free Discord Channel! This week we begin our read through of The Hobbit–but we’re focusing first on how Tolkien actually evolved the Hobbit from his first edition in 1937 to a revised edition...

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