Caring is Cool - A Discussion of Excellence with Author Brad Stulberg

Caring is Cool - A Discussion of Excellence with Author Brad Stulberg

In this episode of the Running Explained podcast, hosts Amanda Katz and Nick Klastava engage in a deep conversation with New York Times Bestselling author Brad Stulberg about his latest book, 'The Way of Excellence.' They explore the true meaning of excellence, the importance of caring deeply about one's pursuits, and the value of community in achieving goals. Brad shares insights on the journey of personal growth, the significance of values in goal setting, and the necessity of embracing discomfort. The discussion also touches on the impact of social media on our perceptions of success and the importance of maintaining integrity in the pursuit of growth.


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(00:00) Introduction to the Guest Brad Stulberg

(04:02 )The Journey of Writing and Coaching

(05:21) Understanding the Arrival Fallacy

(08:14) The Process Over Outcomes Philosophy

(10:59) Defining Excellence and Its Misconceptions

(14:00) Aligning Goals with Personal Values

(17:12) The Importance of Caring and Vulnerability

(21:04) Building a Supportive Community

(26:58) The Concept of the Humble Badass

(30:03) Navigating Extremes: The Middle Ground

(36:28) The Myth of Balance: Embracing Seasons of Life

(44:05) Sitting with Discomfort: The Path to Mental Toughness

(52:27) Final Thoughts: Advice and Insights from Brad


Brad Stulberg is author of the New York Times bestseller The Way of Excellence

Book Link - The Way of Excellence


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