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BONUS: Turf Wars: Bill Buford Sneak Peek

We're on Patreon! As a treat to our loyal listeners, here's a sneak peek of what you'll be getting if you join the "It Was" Patreon community.

This week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper are joined by author Bill Buford to round up their series on hooliganism.

BONUS EDITIONS

Exclusive deep dives, specials & extended conversations from one-off specials to extra episodes that expand on our weekly free shows, you’ll get fresh, members-only content - including our “Bonus Editions” strand where Rob and Jonathan go deeper into football’s biggest stories and hidden histories.

WORLD CUP WEDNESDAYS!

Our countdown to 2026 - every tournament revisited Join Rob and Jonathan as they walk through every World Cup from 1930 to today, exploring the drama, evolution, legends, controversies and cultural impact of each tournament.

RETRO MAGAZINE COLLECTION

Flicking through the archives of classic football culture A nostalgic series diving into the pages of Shoot! and other retro football magazines - revisiting the stars, forgotten features, and football fandom of decades past.

MONTHLY LIVE Q&A WITH ROB & JONATHAN

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Ghanaian's Football Golden Age: Part Two

Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson examine Kwame Nkrumah’s state-backed club Real Republicans and why it became widely unpopular despite winning trophies, after being created by taking top players from ex...

22 Syys 57min

Ghanaian's Football Golden Age: Part One

Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson discuss how Kwame Nkrumah used football to build Ghana’s national identity and promote Pan-African unity after independence (1957) and becoming a republic (1960). They t...

15 Syys 50min

Remembering Kevin Keegan: Part Three

Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper conclude their three-part series on Kevin Keegan by tracing his managerial career and the idealism behind his “why not?” philosophy. They cover his post-playing retreat ...

8 Syys 1h 1min

Remembering Kevin Keegan: Part Two

Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper continue their Kevin Keegan series, following his 1977 move from Liverpool to Hamburg for a far higher salary and the difficult start marked by teammate resentment, mana...

1 Syys 58min

Remembering Kevin Keegan: Part One

*The full three-part series is available on Patreon now*Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper pay tribute to Kevin Keegan, who died in July aged 75, reflecting on his rare charisma, self-awareness, and abili...

25 Elo 59min

Total Football: Glory, Fracture and the 1974 World Cup | Part Four

The fourth and final episode in Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper's Total Football series explores Ajax’s remarkable success under Stefan Kovacs and the Netherlands’ unforgettable 1974 World Cup campaign...

18 Elo 52min

Total Football: Cruyff, Ajax and the Golden Years | Part Three

In part three of our Total Football series, Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper arrive at Ajax’s golden age.They explore Johan Cruyff’s development: the precocious teenager shaped by Ajax, Vic Buckingham a...

11 Elo 57min

Franco Baresi Tribute: Jamie Carragher on Milan's Maestro

*You can listen to the full episode on our Patreon*Rob Draper hosts a bonus edition of It Was What It Was with Jamie Carragher stepping in to pay tribute to the late great Franco Baresi .Carragher exp...

6 Elo 18min