It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

Welcome to The Overlap's football history podcast, It Was What It Was.


Each week Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper will be talking about the key episodes in football history that have shaped the footballing world.


The show will be discussing the best stories from football's past, giving insights to the personalities involved. the tales from behind the scenes and the impact they left.


Join us at Football University!


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Ghanaian's Football Golden Age: Part One

Ghanaian's Football Golden Age: Part One

Rob Draper and Jonathan Wilson discuss how Kwame Nkrumah used football to build Ghana’s national identity and promote Pan-African unity after independence (1957) and becoming a republic (1960). They t...

15 Syys 50min

Remembering Kevin Keegan: Part Three

Remembering Kevin Keegan: Part Three

Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper conclude their three-part series on Kevin Keegan by tracing his managerial career and the idealism behind his “why not?” philosophy. They cover his post-playing retreat ...

8 Syys 1h 1min

Remembering Kevin Keegan: Part Two

Remembering Kevin Keegan: Part Two

Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper continue their Kevin Keegan series, following his 1977 move from Liverpool to Hamburg for a far higher salary and the difficult start marked by teammate resentment, mana...

1 Syys 58min

Remembering Kevin Keegan: Part One

Remembering Kevin Keegan: Part One

*The full three-part series is available on Patreon now*Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper pay tribute to Kevin Keegan, who died in July aged 75, reflecting on his rare charisma, self-awareness, and abili...

25 Elo 59min

Total Football: Glory, Fracture and the 1974 World Cup | Part Four

Total Football: Glory, Fracture and the 1974 World Cup | Part Four

The fourth and final episode in Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper's Total Football series explores Ajax’s remarkable success under Stefan Kovacs and the Netherlands’ unforgettable 1974 World Cup campaign...

18 Elo 52min

Total Football: Cruyff, Ajax and the Golden Years | Part Three

Total Football: Cruyff, Ajax and the Golden Years | Part Three

In part three of our Total Football series, Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper arrive at Ajax’s golden age.They explore Johan Cruyff’s development: the precocious teenager shaped by Ajax, Vic Buckingham a...

11 Elo 57min

Franco Baresi Tribute: Jamie Carragher on Milan's Maestro

Franco Baresi Tribute: Jamie Carragher on Milan's Maestro

*You can listen to the full episode on our Patreon*Rob Draper hosts a bonus edition of It Was What It Was with Jamie Carragher stepping in to pay tribute to the late great Franco Baresi .Carragher exp...

6 Elo 18min

Total Football: Ideas, Architecture and the Feyenoord Breakthrough | Part Two

Total Football: Ideas, Architecture and the Feyenoord Breakthrough | Part Two

In part two of our Total Football series, Jonathan and Rob explore the ideas behind football’s great tactical revolution.From the structuralist architecture and social change of 1960s Amsterdam to Joh...

4 Elo 55min

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