SS 265: Bi Invisibility & The Closet

SS 265: Bi Invisibility & The Closet

It's no secret that in the pantheon of the LGBT spectrum, bisexual people are looked down upon, told they don't really exist, avoided in dating life. Bisexuals also often feel less pressure to come out, as they can so easily pass as one side or the other. Paradoxically, this leads to bi invisibility and erasure, so we discuss, and make an attempt to deconstruct this in today's episode of Life on the Swingset, along with Dr. Liz Powell, Mike Joseph, Cooper, and Dylan.

Today's episode of Life on the Swingset is sponsored by Better Than the Hand, a website that aims to deconstruct stigma and toxicity surrounding male sexuality and masturbation through articles, blogs, toy reviews, and an online store. We're also sponsored by Castle Megastore, a one stop shop with everything you could want, from wand vibrators, to harnesses, to lube and condoms, to a complete suite of BDSM equipment including sex furniture. If you use the promo code SWINGSET at check out you can save 20% on your order.

National Coming Out Day was a pretty big deal for Cooper this year. He discussed his reasons as coming out, specifically to his conservative family, as someone who has struggled with his sexuality and is still working through it, and why he chose not to identify to them as queer, even though he specifically identifies with queer.

The conversation moves to reasons why not to come out, whether because livelyhood may be jeopardized (as in Dr. Liz's relaying of her experience of being in the army before Don't Ask Don't Tell was fully repealed), or child custody may be revoked, or any other reason to stay in the closet.

Mike posits that many people aren't all open to themselves (as with straight identified men who still seek men), and mentions that even being the out partner in a gay couple has stress that comes with it.

The panel talks specifically about ways that people specifically disappear bisexuality, telling men who identify as bi that they are gay and they haven't admitted it yet (bi now, gay later), or that bisexual people, because so much effort has been exerted to create the separate gay identity that having a bridge between those identities, muddy the waters.

To Dr. Liz, the conflict presents differently as women, that there's a "penis phobia" that can exist so that bi women who have sex with men are tagged as higher risk because there is less transmission risk between women who only have sex with women. Dr. Liz also takes time to lament the fact that before she got her "super stereotypical queer haircut" everyone assumed she was straight, but now that she has it, everyone assumes she's gay!

Mike brings up that at many events he attends, almost every woman identifies as bisexual even though most men identify as straight, even if they later identify as curious or fluid, and that it may be a holdover from the aids crisis in that if you identified as bi or gay you were automatically more likely to get infected. Dr. Liz adds that there's a challenge to masculinity involved, and that men who identify as straight but still fuck men create a safe space to sexually express themselves without the stigma of challenging that masculinity, and that any question as to why that man may marry a woman even if he fucks men doesn't get asked. Dylan brings up that many bi woman in monogamous relationships get the same challenge, and they get questions as to why they "even bother" identifying as bisexual if they're marrying a man, because they'll never get to do anything about their attraction to women. Dr. Liz mentions that bisexuals get misidentified sexually based on the genitals they're interacting with as opposed to their actual preferences.

Dylan asks about the pansexual label, and whether people identifying as pansexual get to skip some of the bisexual stigma or confusion... but gets that thought dismissed as most people outside of the queer community would just not understand what it is. He follows up with a questions about whether bisexual men are seen as, as dangerous as bisexual women are to "the husbands" of straight women in monogamous relationships and... yes. Mike, as a queer man, has had his male friends told by their female partners not to hang out with them or has had his male friends' sexuality questions because of their desire to be friends with him.

Cooper mentions that whenever you present an alternative to traditional heteronormative nonmonogamy to people who actively try not to look into and not think about it, that anyone with predispositions to something other than traditional heteronormative may show interest and that's dangerous.

Dylan compares it to Doctor Who weeping angels and... pretty much stuns everyone into silence, and into a little bit of weeping.

After a break, Dr. Liz discusses ideas to help with bi erasure, whether thinking about the bi celebrities you know (and with say, Anna Paquin being bi but being identified as straight because she's married to a man), and that when you meet someone you really only have one datapoint, and to stay open.

We talk about attraction, and how you don't necessarily need to identify the way your attraction takes you, because it's ok to explore fantasy, explore the juiciness of, and even still decide to act it out without identifying as your attraction.

Fantasy doesn't have to be the same as reality. And your fantasies do not define your sexuality in practice https://t.co/y1WvtgZtx1

— Liz Powell, Psy.D (@sexpospsych) October 26, 2016

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SS 341: Total Desire Recall 2

SS 341: Total Desire Recall 2

Tristan Taormino, JV Altharas, and Shara Bono join Cooper S. Beckett, Ginger Bentham, and Dylan Thomas in reveling in the debauchery and delight that was… Life on the Swingset takes Desire 2018. Join us in Paradise from November 2-9, 2019 for Swingset Takes Desire 2019! We are already 30% booked so get those early bird reservations in now! If you've previously attended with us you're eligible for a special offer! Visit swingsetdesire.com! Help support Life on the Swingset continue to make podcasts, and put on live panels and shows into the future! Throw us a dollar (or a few) each time we release an episode on Patreon! Your support will get you invited to a private chat with other Swingsetters, and give you the opportunity to join live podcast recordings, and listen to episodes commercial free, and with outtakes! You can support us while you buy great sex toys and products from our favorite online retailer SheVibe at lifeontheswingset.com/shevibe. The best FREE thing you can do to support us is leave us a five-star review. Come to our review gateway, then copy and paste your review into iTunes or Stitcher! Also, follow us on Spotify! Leave us a comment on this post or at contact@lifeontheswingset.com or leave us a voicemail at 573-55-SWING (573-557-9464). You can now order Cooper's novel Approaching The Swingularity, his previous novel A Life Less Monogamous, or his memoir My Life on the Swingset: Adventures in Swinging & Polyamory as an ebook, paperback, or audiobook. Use promo code SWINGSET at coopersbeckett.com to save 10%. Dylan Thomas is available for for podcast consultation and production work. If you're interested, visit www.dylanthethomas.com. Our Naughty in Nawlins Advertisement includes music by ローマンRoman titled: COBRA 320 SPEEDBOAT, off the Paradise album. Our episode music includes music by ローマンRoman and Pacintosh Mlus titled c r y s t a l p e p s i off the THAT'S WHAT I CALL VAPORWAVE album. These tracks are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0) license.

9 Tammi 201957min

SS 340 - Tay, Jay, Lara and Patrick - A Café Swingset Interview

SS 340 - Tay, Jay, Lara and Patrick - A Café Swingset Interview

Life on the Swingset takes Desire 2018 was a rousing and rejuvenating success. During the trip, Dylan put out a call: Would you like to be interviewed? If so, bug me! Patrick, Lara, Jay, and Tay answered immediately and couldn't wait to get on, so... pull up a seat in Café Swingset and listen in as Dylan sits down with Patrick, Lara, Jay, and Tay for an interview and conversation about their experiences together at Desire. Join us in Paradise from November 2-9, 2019 for Swingset Takes Desire 2019! We are already 30% booked so get those early bird reservations in now! If you've previously attended with us you're eligible for a special offer! Visit swingsetdesire.com! Help support Life on the Swingset continue to make podcasts, and put on live panels and shows into the future! Throw us a dollar (or a few) each time we release an episode on Patreon! Your support will get you invited to a private chat with other Swingsetters, and give you the opportunity to join live podcast recordings, and listen to episodes commercial free, and with outtakes! You can support us while you buy great sex toys and products from our favorite online retailer SheVibe at lifeontheswingset.com/shevibe. The best FREE thing you can do to support us is leave us a five-star review. Come to our review gateway, then copy and paste your review into iTunes or Stitcher! Also, follow us on Spotify! Leave us a comment on this post or at contact@lifeontheswingset.com or leave us a voicemail at 573-55-SWING (573-557-9464). You can now order Cooper's novel Approaching The Swingularity, his previous novel A Life Less Monogamous, or his memoir My Life on the Swingset: Adventures in Swinging & Polyamory as an ebook, paperback, or audiobook. Use promo code SWINGSET at coopersbeckett.com to save 10%. Dylan Thomas is available for for podcast consultation and production work. If you're interested, visit www.dylanthethomas.com. Review Music: Haywyre – Sculpted Intro and Interstitial Music: Hyper Potions & Nokae – Expedition Interstitial Music 2: Slippy feat. Sara Skinner – Show Me Interstitial Music 3 and Outro Music: Protostar & MakO – No Fire – 01 No Fire (feat. Rachel Hirons) Our Naughty in Nawlins Advertisement includes music by ローマンRoman titled: COBRA 320 SPEEDBOAT, off the Paradise album. These tracks are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0) license.

31 Joulu 201857min

SS 339: Just the Three of Us - A Café Swingset Chat

SS 339: Just the Three of Us - A Café Swingset Chat

Uneven, difficult, unique, surprising, evolving, exceptional. These are all words that describe Cooper's, Dylan's, and Ginger's lives on the Swingset. Tonight they turn down the lights, sit across the table, and chat... "Just the three of us." Join us in Paradise from November 2-9, 2019 for Swingset Takes Desire 2019! We are already 30% booked so get those early bird reservations in now! If you've previously attended with us you're eligible for a special offer! Visit swingsetdesire.com! Help support Life on the Swingset continue to make podcasts, and put on live panels and shows into the future! Throw us a dollar (or a few) each time we release an episode on Patreon! Your support will get you invited to a private chat with other Swingsetters, and give you the opportunity to join live podcast recordings, and listen to episodes commercial free, and with outtakes! You can support us while you buy great sex toys and products from our favorite online retailer SheVibe at lifeontheswingset.com/shevibe. The best FREE thing you can do to support us is leave us a five-star review. Come to our review gateway, then copy and paste your review into iTunes or Stitcher! Also, follow us on Spotify! Leave us a comment on this post or at contact@lifeontheswingset.com or leave us a voicemail at 573-55-SWING (573-557-9464). You can now order Cooper's novel Approaching The Swingularity, his previous novel A Life Less Monogamous, or his memoir My Life on the Swingset: Adventures in Swinging & Polyamory as an ebook, paperback, or audiobook. Use promo code SWINGSET at coopersbeckett.com to save 10%. Dylan Thomas is available for for podcast consultation and production work. If you're interested, visit www.dylanthethomas.com. Intro Music: Laszlo – Intro (Full Circle) Interstitial Music: Laszlo – Destination Interstitial Music: Laszlo – Under Pressure Review Music: Haywyre – Sculpted Outro Music: Laszlo – Law of the Jungle

22 Joulu 20181h 22min

SS 338: My Dinner With Swingset in Paradise - A Dinnercast!

SS 338: My Dinner With Swingset in Paradise - A Dinnercast!

Join Cooper S. Beckett, Ginger Bentham, and Dylan Thomas, and Ophilia Tesla, The Professor, and Antonia Thomas, as they chat for nearly two hours over dinner at Sahlo, a restaurant at Desire Riviera Maya. We're thrilled to announce that we are ALREADY BOOKING for 2019's Desire trip! Join us from November 2nd through the 9th, 2019 for Life on the Swingset's eighth trip to Desire! Visit SSDesire.com for more information! Help support Life on the Swingset continue to make podcasts, and put on live panels and shows into the future! Throw us a dollar (or a few) each time we release an episode on Patreon! Your support will get you invited to a private chat with other Swingsetters, and give you the opportunity to join live podcast recordings, and listen to extended episodes commercial free, and with outtakes! You can support us while you buy great sex toys and products from our favorite online retailer SheVibe at lifeontheswingset.com/shevibe. The best FREE thing you can do to support us is leave us a five-star review. Come to our review gateway, then copy and paste your review into iTunes or Stitcher! Also, follow us on Spotify! Leave us a comment on this post or at contact@lifeontheswingset.com or leave us a voicemail at 573-55-SWING (573-557-9464). You can now order Cooper's novel Approaching The Swingularity, his previous novel A Life Less Monogamous, or his memoir My Life on the Swingset: Adventures in Swinging & Polyamory as an ebook, paperback, or audiobook. Use promo code SWINGSET at coopersbeckett.com to save 10%. Dylan Thomas is available for for podcast consultation and production work. If you're interested, visit www.dylanthethomas.com. Our Naughty in Nawlins Advertisement includes music by ローマンRoman titled: COBRA 320 SPEEDBOAT, off the Paradise album. These tracks are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0) license.

5 Joulu 20181h 53min

SS 337: Relationship Struggles: Emotional Black Holes

SS 337: Relationship Struggles: Emotional Black Holes

Relationships are often worth the effort. People are worth the effort... until they're not. Tonight, Bex Caputo and Lunabelle join Dylan Thomas and Ginger Bentham to discuss when the people we like stop putting in the effort to be with us, and when the effort we send their way feels like it falls into a black hole. Relationships are often worth the effort. People are worth the effort… until they're not. Tonight, Bex Caputo and Lunabelle join Dylan Thomas and Ginger Bentham to discuss when the people we like stop putting in the effort to be with us, and when the effort we send their way feels like it falls into a black hole. Join us in Paradise from November 2-9, 2019 for Swingset Takes Desire 2019! We are already 30% booked so get those early bird reservations in now! If you've previously attended with us you're eligible for a special offer! Visit swingsetdesire.com! Help support Life on the Swingset continue to make podcasts, and put on live panels and shows into the future! Throw us a dollar (or a few) each time we release an episode on Patreon! Your support will get you invited to a private chat with other Swingsetters, and give you the opportunity to join live podcast recordings, and listen to episodes commercial free, and with outtakes! You can support us while you buy great sex toys and products from our favorite online retailer SheVibe at lifeontheswingset.com/shevibe. The best FREE thing you can do to support us is leave us a five-star review. Come to our review gateway, then copy and paste your review into iTunes or Stitcher! Also, follow us on Spotify! Leave us a comment on this post or at contact@lifeontheswingset.com or leave us a voicemail at 573-55-SWING (573-557-9464). You can now order Cooper's novel Approaching The Swingularity, his previous novel A Life Less Monogamous, or his memoir My Life on the Swingset: Adventures in Swinging & Polyamory as an ebook, paperback, or audiobook. Use promo code SWINGSET at coopersbeckett.com to save 10%. Dylan Thomas is available for for podcast consultation and production work. If you're interested, visit www.dylanthethomas.com. Intro Music: SLUMBERJACK & Machine Age – Daggers Review Music: Haywyre – Sculpted Lunabelle's Music: Varien – Snowlight Outro Music: Dion Timmer – Leave Swingtowns Advertisement includes the track さようなら GOOD BYE, and the Effing Foundation Advertisement includes the track シドニーSYDNEY. This track is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0) license.

30 Marras 201853min

SS 336: The Swingset Takes Desire – Year Seven Live!

SS 336: The Swingset Takes Desire – Year Seven Live!

Much as the Harry Potter series did when they reached Year Seven, we go long, overstuffed, earnest, and sometimes brash. Our annual trip to Desire Resort Riviera Maya is here, and Cooper S. Beckett, Ginger Bentham, and Dylan Thomas sat down with a wonderful group of Swingsetters in the courtyard of the resort to podcast live! We also give away special gifts from Tabu Toys, The Lucky Bloke, Kat Stark, and By the Bi! We're thrilled to announce that we are ALREADY BOOKING for 2019's Desire trip! Join us from November 2nd through the 9th, 2019 for Life on the Swingset's eighth trip to Desire! Visit SSDesire.com for more information! Help support Life on the Swingset continue to make podcasts, and put on live panels and shows into the future! Throw us a dollar (or a few) each time we release an episode on Patreon! Your support will get you invited to a private chat with other Swingsetters, and give you the opportunity to join live podcast recordings, and listen to extended episodes commercial free, and with outtakes! You can support us while you buy great sex toys and products from our favorite online retailer SheVibe at lifeontheswingset.com/shevibe. The best FREE thing you can do to support us is leave us a five-star review. Come to our review gateway, then copy and paste your review into iTunes or Stitcher! Also, follow us on Spotify! Leave us a comment on this post or at contact@lifeontheswingset.com or leave us a voicemail at 573-55-SWING (573-557-9464). You can now order Cooper's novel Approaching The Swingularity, his previous novel A Life Less Monogamous, or his memoir My Life on the Swingset: Adventures in Swinging & Polyamory as an ebook, paperback, or audiobook. Use promo code SWINGSET at coopersbeckett.com to save 10%. Dylan Thomas is available for for podcast consultation and production work. If you're interested, visit www.dylanthethomas.com. Do you have a sex positive project? Would you be interested in a grant? Visiting the Effing Foundation at effing.org/grants! Intro Music and Life on the Swingset 2018 – 2019 Theme Music: Puppet – Vagabond Review Music: Haywyre – Sculpted Interstitial Music: Conro – Midnight Lights (feat. Ini Oladosu) Outro Music: Laszlo – Better Our Desire 2019 Intro includes music by ローマンRoman titled: Bikini, off the Paradise album. Our Swingtowns Advertisement includes the track さようなら GOOD BYE. These tracks are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0) license.

17 Marras 20181h 37min

SS 335: Blowjobs²

SS 335: Blowjobs²

Who doesn't love talking about blow-jobs? Bex Caputo from the Dildorks Podcast rejoins Dylan Thomas, Cooper S. Beckett, and Ginger Bentham to continue on for a whole new episode, doing a deeper dive into giving and receiving blowjobs, cock-worship, and dildos. Help support Life on the Swingset continue to make podcasts, and put on live panels and shows into the future! Throw us a dollar (or a few) each time we release an episode on Patreon! Your support will get you invited to a private chat with other Swingsetters, and give you the opportunity to join live podcast recordings, and listen to episodes commercial free, and with outtakes! You can support us while you buy great sex toys and products from our favorite online retailer SheVibe at lifeontheswingset.com/shevibe. The best FREE thing you can do to support us is leave us a five-star review. Come to our review gateway, then copy and paste your review into iTunes or Stitcher! Also, follow us on Spotify! Leave us a comment on this post or at contact@lifeontheswingset.com or leave us a voicemail at 573-55-SWING (573-557-9464). You can now order Cooper's novel Approaching The Swingularity, his previous novel A Life Less Monogamous, or his memoir My Life on the Swingset: Adventures in Swinging & Polyamory as an ebook, paperback, or audiobook. Use promo code SWINGSET at coopersbeckett.com to save 10%. Dylan Thomas is available for for podcast consultation and production work. If you're interested, visit www.dylanthethomas.com. Life on the Swingset 2018 – 2019 Theme Music: Puppet – Vagabond Intro and Interstitial Music: Au5 & Nytrix – Only In A Dream Review Music: Haywyre – Sculpted Robot Ginger's Music: Robotaki – Automaton Outro Music: Stonebank – Let You Down (feat. Danyka Nadeau) Cooper S. Beckett Dylan Thomas Ginger Bentham Bex Caputo

30 Loka 201854min

SS 334: Gettin' Some While on the Road!

SS 334: Gettin' Some While on the Road!

One of the difficulties of being in a community like non-monogamy is that your people are spread all over the country and the world. Often we travel to travel to see them, and sometimes when traveling for other reasons, it's nice to send up the beacon and see who answers. Join Dylan Thomas, Ginger Bentham, Bex Caputo, and Lunabelle talk about their experiences on the road and offer advice on how to connect with people while on the road. Tristan Taormino's #AllIn for Desire… are you? Join us from November 3rd through the 10th this 2018 for Life on the Swingset's seventh trip to Desire! Visit www.ssdesire.com for more information! Help support Life on the Swingset continue to make podcasts, and put on live panels and shows into the future! Throw us a dollar (or a few) each time we release an episode on Patreon! Your support will get you invited to a private chat with other Swingsetters, and give you the opportunity to join live podcast recordings, and listen to episodes commercial free, and with outtakes! You can support us while you buy great sex toys and products from our favorite online retailer SheVibe at lifeontheswingset.com/shevibe. The best FREE thing you can do to support us is leave us a five-star review. Come to our review gateway, then copy and paste your review into iTunes or Stitcher! Also, follow us on Spotify! Leave us a comment on this post or at contact@lifeontheswingset.com or leave us a voicemail at 573-55-SWING (573-557-9464). You can now order Cooper's novel Approaching The Swingularity, his previous novel A Life Less Monogamous, or his memoir My Life on the Swingset: Adventures in Swinging & Polyamory as an ebook, paperback, or audiobook. Use promo code SWINGSET at coopersbeckett.com to save 10%. Dylan Thomas is available for for podcast consultation and production work. If you're interested, visit www.dylanthethomas.com. Life on the Swingset 2018 – 2019 Theme Music: Puppet – Vagabond Intro Music: Conro – The Roaming Road Interstitial Music: Conro – Trippin Review Music: Haywyre – Sculpted Lunabelle's Music: Knife Party & Pegboard Nerds – Harpoon Outro Music: EMBA & SMLE – 15 Story Jump Our Desire 2018 Advertisement includes music by ローマンRoman titled: ビキニ BIKINI, off the Paradise album. Our Swingtowns Advertisement includes the track さようなら GOOD BYE. Our Desire 2018 Bulletin includes the track: b a b e, off the THAT'S WHAT I CALL VAPORWAVE album. These tracks are licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported (CC BY 3.0) license.

22 Loka 201853min

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