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Episode 2: Leadership is Messy

In this episode of Business on Top, I'm dismantling the polished, picture-perfect version of leadership, and replacing it with something far more honest.

Leadership is messy. And the sooner you accept that, the more powerfully you can lead.

In this conversation, I walk through the gap between what I thought leadership would feel like and the reality of building something in real time. If you've ever questioned whether you're doing it "right," felt the weight of responsibility while still figuring things out behind the scenes, or wondered why leadership feels harder than it looks, this episode will meet you there.

I share personal stories and hard-earned lessons from building my own company, the truth about early hiring mistakes, the pressure to get it right, and the humbling realization that alignment matters more than credentials. You'll hear what it really takes to build a team in the messy middle, why hiring for your current stage is critical, and how chasing the "perfect" structure can actually hold you back.

I also pull back the curtain on the real-life leadership challenges women are navigating today, moments you can't prepare for, situations that test your character, and decisions that don't come with a playbook.

Because the truth is: the version of leadership many of us were taught was never designed for the reality we're living in.

The leader you're becoming isn't the one who has it all together, she's the one willing to move forward without certainty, build without a blueprint, and lead while still evolving.

If you've been judging yourself for the messiness of your journey, I want this episode to help you see it differently:

It's not a flaw.
It's proof that you're leading.

Resources

→ Subscribe to The Blueprint

→ Learn more & book a call with our team to learn if the Pop Leadership Academy is right for you!

→ Learn more about our Owner + Practice Manager Business Intensive: June 12–13 at The Gwen, Chicago

→ Follow Kaeli on Instagram: @kaeli.lindholm

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