Episode 139: Lisa Utzschneider on carbon, attention, AI, and why being the CEO is fun!

Episode 139: Lisa Utzschneider on carbon, attention, AI, and why being the CEO is fun!

In this episode, Ari Paparo and Eric Franchi talk with Lisa Utzschneider, CEO of Integral Ad Science (IAS), about the latest shifts in digital advertising. They explore how the industry is moving from simple verification toward performance, why metrics like attention and carbon are getting more attention, what AI is doing behind the scenes, and how retail media and streaming are changing the game. Along the way, they dig into trust, complexity, and what brands really care most about today. Takeaways IAS has moved beyond verification, focusing on performance and transparency. Attention and carbon are part of the metrics mix, not replacements for existing standards. AI powers classification and validation at scale, speeding up processing and accuracy. Retail media and CTV are rapidly growing areas with unique challenges. Brands still prioritize simple goals: reach consumers, protect reputation, and drive outcomes. Chapters01:00 Open Web vs. Walled Gardens04:40 From Verification to Optimization07:30 Carbon as a Metric09:00 Attention Metrics12:00 Cutting through the Complexity12:40 AI in Practice16:15 Startups, Scale, and Data19:00 Retail Media’s Rise21:00 Trust and Perception Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Episode 187: Jack Raines Trolls LinkedIn and Ends Up with a Book Deal

Episode 187: Jack Raines Trolls LinkedIn and Ends Up with a Book Deal

Ari Paparo and guest co-host Paul Knegten sit down with Jack Raines, author of Young Money, to discuss how viral LinkedIn posts, humor, and attention-driven marketing helped him build a 61,000-subscri...

21 Elo 54min

Episode 186: Matt Drengler on Why Ari is Wrong About Podcasting

Episode 186: Matt Drengler on Why Ari is Wrong About Podcasting

Ari Paparo and Eric Franchi sit down with Matthew Drengler, Head of Partnerships at Podscribe, to unpack the messy reality of podcast measurement. They explore attribution, incrementality, the shift f...

14 Elo 58min

Episode 185: Nikhil Lai of Forrester on the State of AEO and Performance Marketing

Episode 185: Nikhil Lai of Forrester on the State of AEO and Performance Marketing

Ari Paparo and Eric Franchi are joined by Nikhil Lai, Principal Analyst at Forrester, to discuss the evolution of performance marketing, Answer Engine Optimization (AEO), connected TV, incrementality,...

7 Elo 50min

Episode 184: Ben Edelman Will Send You to Affiliate Jail

Episode 184: Ben Edelman Will Send You to Affiliate Jail

Ben Edelman, independent consultant and longtime ad fraud investigator, joins Ari Paparo and Eric Franchi to discuss the Phia affiliate controversy, the evolution of ad fraud, AppLovin's install pract...

31 Heinä 49min

Episode 183: Ask Olivia Kory Whether AppLovin Ads Work & She Explains Attribution vs Incrementality

Episode 183: Ask Olivia Kory Whether AppLovin Ads Work & She Explains Attribution vs Incrementality

Ari Paparo and Eric Franchi welcome Olivia Kory, Chief Marketing Strategy Officer at Haus, to unpack one of advertising's biggest questions: do ads actually work? Olivia explains the critical differen...

24 Heinä 52min

Episode 182: Brian Quinn from AppsFlyer on the Billion Dollar Investment from Google and Meta

Episode 182: Brian Quinn from AppsFlyer on the Billion Dollar Investment from Google and Meta

AppsFlyer President and General Manager Brian Quinn joins Ari Paparo and Eric Franchi to discuss the company’s $1 billion funding round backed by Google, Meta, Unity, and Moloco. They explore independ...

17 Heinä 44min

How InMobi Is Reinventing Advertising with AI Agents

How InMobi Is Reinventing Advertising with AI Agents

What happens when AI agents become media buyers and shopping assistants? Ari Paparo sits down with Abhay Singhal, Co-Founder and CEO of InMobi Advertising, to discuss the future of agentic advertis...

15 Heinä 17min

Episode 181: Alex Kantrowitz on OpenAI and Big Tech's Latest Approach to Advertising

Episode 181: Alex Kantrowitz on OpenAI and Big Tech's Latest Approach to Advertising

Alex Kantrowitz, Founder of Big Technology, joins Ari Paparo and Eric Franchi to discuss how OpenAI, Google, Meta, Anthropic, Amazon, and other tech leaders are transforming digital advertising. They ...

10 Heinä 48min

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