Ginn and Tonic (guest: John Paulsen)

Joining host Pat Fitzmaurice (@Fitz_FF) this week is one of his closest friends in the fantasy media, John Paulsen (@4for4_John) of 4for4.com. John and Pat start by pouring one out for Ted Ginn Jr. a longtime favorite of John’s who just announced his retirement after 14 NFL seasons. Then the conversation turns to young quarterbacks, with John and Pat taking opposite sides on Trevor Lawrence and assessing the outlooks for Zach Wilson and Tua Tagovailoa. There’s some talk about the Denver RB situation, with Pat touting Melvin Gordon as a potential value even with rookie Javonte Williams threatening Gordon’s workload. John and Pat also discuss Darren Waller and George Kittle. As natives of Southeastern Wisconsin, John and Pat have been closely following the Milwaukee Bucks’ playoff run, and they compare notes on Bucks fandom and the franchise’s tortured playoff history. Pat also asks John about one of his former basketball coaches at the University of Wisconsin-Platteville, Greg Gard, who’s now the head coach at the University of Wisconsin and whose strained relationship with some of his players recently became a national story. John offers a few musical recommendations, and then John and Pat discuss the Scott Fish Bowl and the DataForce charity draft they’ve been doing together, with some conversation about Cam Akers, Julio Jones, Terry McLaurin, Michael Thomas, Jaylen Waddle and Dionte Johnson. John and Pat also talk about their beloved Green Bay Packers, assessing the Aaron Rodgers situation, examining the value of Aaron Jones and A.J. Dillon, and trying to peg the Packers’ WR hierarchy behind Davante Adams. Host: Pat Fitzmaurice (@Fitz_FF) Guest: John Paulsen (@4for4_John) Podcast produced by Colm Kelly (@OvertimeIreland) In association with TheFootballGirl.com Music provided by International Jet Set Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices