#13 Care, Dare & Share with Dr. Susan Goldsworthy OLY (Part 2)

The deepest illusion of our time is believing we are separate.

That’s the line that opens Part 2 of our conversation with Susan Goldsworthy — and it’s where Care and Dare give way to something Susan added deliberately: Share.

Not sharing as in information or updates, but as in vulnerability, interdependence, and the courage to let others hold you too.

This is also where the conversation zooms out — from individual leaders to organisations, from leadership frameworks to the world we’re actually living in.

In this conversation, we explore:

• Why Care and Dare alone weren’t enough — and what Share adds to the foundation

• The shift from ‘power over’ to ‘power with,’ and why our current systems were arguably never fit for purpose

• How to befriend your autonomic nervous system — Susan’s FIT framework (Flow, Intent, Trust) and why presence is a leadership skill

• What Susan herself still finds hardest, after decades of this work — and a final tribute to the original secure base in her life

If you haven’t listened to Part 1 yet, start there.

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About Susan Goldsworthy & Secure Base Leadership:

https://www.imd.org/research-knowledge/books/care-dare-share-the-secure-base-coach/

https://www.imd.org/iecc/imd-executive-coaching-certificate/

Season 2 Episodes:

9. Getting Serious About Joy (published)

10. Living More with Less (published)

11. Who Gets Heard (published)

12. Care, Dare, Share — Part 1 (published)

13. Care, Dare, Share — Part 2 (published)

14. Self-Leadership and Reflection

15. Beyond the Fruit Basket: Re-thinking good work with Prof. Antoinette Weibel

16. Non-Doing: why we should do less and leave more undone