TTU08: Key Traits to Success in the CTA Industry ft. Martin Estlander of Estlander & Partners – 2of2

TTU08: Key Traits to Success in the CTA Industry ft. Martin Estlander of Estlander & Partners – 2of2

Today we rejoin the conversation with Martin Estlander the Founder and CEO of Estlander & Partners. If you missed the first part, feel free to listen to it here.

In this episode we explore the evolution of the CTA industry, the skills required to run a successful business and finally the fun, less known facts of Martin’s life outside of trading.

Welcome to the second part of our conversations with Martin Estlander.

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In This Episode, You’ll Learn:

  • The best rule of thumb to visualize risk in a traditional CTA portfolio
  • What Martin has learned from being in drawdowns and the difference between drawdowns before and after 2009
  • The effect of volatility in the markets and how this impact CTA performance
  • How Martin Estlander manages the emotional roller coaster
  • Research processes and research cycles at Estlander & Partners
  • How to identify and address systems that were working but now aren’t
  • The biggest challenge for Estlander & Partners going forward
  • What are investors not asking that they should be asking when choosing a CTA
  • Where the misunderstandings can happen for investors when trying to understand the CTA industry
  • How to become better at communicating with investors
  • Martin’s key traits to success in the CTA industry
  • Personal habits that have contributed to the success of Martin Estlander
  • How Martin manages failures and improves from them
  • The things Martin would do differently if he started over today

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OI09: The Key to Trend Following Success ft. Cole Wilcox

OI09: The Key to Trend Following Success ft. Cole Wilcox

In this episode, Moritz Seibert and Cole Wilcox from Longboard Asset Management speak about systematic trend following strategies applied to single stocks, including the many advantages compared to long only buy and hold, but also some of the challenges and technical details related to portfolio construction. Cole is the founder and CEO of Longboard Asset Management, an Arizona-based alternatives fund management firm. He explains why participating in some of the big outlier price moves in mid and small cap stocks is as important as cutting out the many stock which don’t perform, in other words, avoiding the failures while having a systematic process that allows for taking part in the upside are both important.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Moritz on Twitter.Follow Cole on LinkedIn.Episode TimeStamps: 02:07 - Introduction to Cole Wilcox and Longboard Asset Management08:27 - Diving deep into the strategy10:45 - What drives the alpha of their strategy?15:41 - Understanding your investor base18:07 - Understanding their correlation19:31 - Thoughts on including international stocks24:15 - Do they fully fund their portfolio?27:52 - How they approach dividends29:14 - Do they loan out stocks?30:34 - Did they ever trade single stock futures in the Bond Chicago Exchange?32:36...

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SI303: The Unstoppable Volpocalypse ft. Cem Karsan & Alan Dunne

SI303: The Unstoppable Volpocalypse ft. Cem Karsan & Alan Dunne

Cem Karsan joins Alan Dunne in this week’s episode to discuss global macro developments and key events to monitor in the coming months. They explore the shifting market microstructure and how volatility supply from structured products is impacting dispersion, correlation, and the value of breadth as a market indicator. Cem outlines his outlook on volatility trading for the coming months, highlighting key dates in the options calendar that may become focal points as the year progresses. They also examine the wealth effect resulting from rising stock prices, discussing how this reflexive process influences market dynamics and what it means for identifying potential turning points for equities. Finally, they delve into the elections in the UK, France, and the US, consider the likelihood of Biden being replaced and discuss to what the extent the market is pricing in a Trump victory.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Alan on Twitter.Episode TimeStamps:00:59 - Industry performance update06:30 - The outlook for volatility supply09:01 - Braking the volatility cascade11:47 - Is the Yen in trouble?13:51 - Is bread becoming unreliable?19:57 - When does it all end?24:38 - What should you monitor as an investor?27:46 - When will we begin to see increased risk?33:09 - What will drive the increasing volatility?35:10 - The election from a volatility perspective42:46 - Volatility from a market pricing...

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GM64: Why the Economy is Vulnerable to Recession ft. Claudia Sahm

GM64: Why the Economy is Vulnerable to Recession ft. Claudia Sahm

Alan Dunne is joined by Claudia Sahm, Chief Economist at New Century Advisors and creator of the Sahm Rule, to discuss the current macroeconomic outlook. They explore the state of the US labour market and what the Sahm Rule reveals about the economy's current condition. They discuss the conflicting signals in today’s macroeconomic data and hear why Claudia believes the economy is more vulnerable to recession now than in recent years. They also discuss the decline in inflation over the past year, evaluating whether it was influenced by monetary policy and its implications for future policy decisions. Finally, they examine the shift towards more active fiscal and industrial policies and consider whether debt sustainability will become a key issue for the next US administration. -----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Alan on Twitter.Follow Claudia on Twitter.Episode TimeStamps: 02:22 - Introduction to Claudia Sahm04:26 - The background behind the Sahm Rule08:34 - Does the current data call for a recession?12:37 - Putting the data together18:16 - Is the unemployment rate the most reliable indicator for recession?23:51 - What can we rely on as investors?29:48 - What is unusual about this inflation cycle?35:32 - The balance of the dual mandate40:42 - The state of physical...

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SI302: The Negative Crisis Beta and CTA's Hidden Market Timing Skills ft. Nick Baltas

SI302: The Negative Crisis Beta and CTA's Hidden Market Timing Skills ft. Nick Baltas

This week, Alan Dunne chats with Nick Baltas about CTAs' negative crisis beta and their hidden market timing skills. Nick and Alan tackle the question of how to build an effective trend-following program as part of a larger multi-asset portfolio, in relation to the markets traded and speed of system and tie in insights from a recent Quantica paper. They weigh the benefits of unconstrained trend-following programs versus those with capped equity beta. Plus, they discuss the ideal level of volatility for running an investment program and take a closer look at a Resolve Asset Management paper on the best ways to construct carry strategies.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Alan on Twitter.Episode TimeStamps:01:23 - What has caught our attention recently?03:00 - Industry performance update05:32 - Reversions incoming?07:06 - Q1: Regarding how to choose instruments in your trend following algorithm14:20 - Getting the speed right17:37 - Q2: At what point does volatility put an investor in a danger zone?24:32 - Discussing the paper "Negative Crisis Beta" from Quantica38:16 - Capping the beta45:17 - The hidden market timing of CTAs50:23 - The benefits of adding carry to your portfolioCopyright © 2025 – CMC AG – All Rights Reserved----PLUS: Whenever you're ready... here are 3 ways I can help you in your investment Journey:1. eBooks that cover key topics that you need to...

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GM63: War Without Rules ft. General Robert Spalding

GM63: War Without Rules ft. General Robert Spalding

Join us as Cem Karsan and I explore China's plan for global dominance with retired General Robert Spalding, author of "War Without Rules." General Spalding discusses the rising tensions between China and the West, pointing out warning signs from the past two decades and mistakes made by the West. We delve into China's long-term strategy for world domination and its impact on investment strategies. We also question if TikTok is being used by China as a weapon against the West. Additionally, we examine the decline of democracy, the rise of autocracy, and the challenges democracies face in competing with autocracies. Finally, General Spalding highlights the importance of protecting digital infrastructure from cyber threats and decentralizing it for resilient communication, a mission he passionately pursues with his company, SEMPRE.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Cem on Twitter.Follow Robert on Twitter and read his book.Episode TimeStamps: 01:49 - Introduction to General Robert Spalding03:38 - What did Spalding learn from flying B-2 airplanes?08:44 - Who is Spalding's criticism aimed towards?10:33 - A visionary perspective15:37 - TikTok - The ultimate weapon?21:37 - Is the West as "bad" as China?30:49 - How do the West compete...

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SI301: The AI Hype within Investing...a Step Too Far? ft. Rob Carver

SI301: The AI Hype within Investing...a Step Too Far? ft. Rob Carver

Today, Rob Carver shares his insights on buying put options as a tail risk strategy and how trend following can also play a part in tail risk protection...but perhaps not they way some investors may think. Rob also shares his advice for using carry in your strategies when trading rolling futures contracts. We then pivot to hear Rob's thoughts on why the U.S. election appears to be the perfect storm, and we discuss what the outcome of the election will mean for the economy. Rob also explain why he is sceptical about the AI hype and the liability issues that AI poses. Lastly, we discuss the challenges of setting the right level of fees as a manager and how investors may complain about the higher level of fees the multi-billion $ managers charge...yet still chose to invest with them.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Rob on Twitter.Episode TimeStamps: 00:26 - A quick talk on football (soccer)02:09 - What has been on our radar recently?05:26 - An update on Rob's portfolio.?09:37 - Industry performance update12:07 - Q1, Steve: What are Rob's advice for systematic buying of put options as a tail risk strategy?26:51 - Q2, Luis: Regarding how to use carry in your strategies when you roll from a contract to the next one33:39 - A discussion on elections38:36 - The U.S election - a perfect storm?44:41 - Should you be cautious about the AI hype?57:04 - Finding the right level of fees that investors should...

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OI08: Trend Following...Austrian Style ft. Michael Neubauer & Joseph Waldstein from SMN

OI08: Trend Following...Austrian Style ft. Michael Neubauer & Joseph Waldstein from SMN

In this episode, Moritz Seibert speaks with Michael Neubauer and Joseph Waldstein from SMN Investment Services, a Vienna, Austria-based systematic trend following manager with a 28-year track record. Michael and Joseph explain how they initially got interested in trend following and how their systems have evolved over the years. Moreover, the discuss why trading many different markets – as many as possible – is important for their approach, and that the inclusion of synthetic markets such as spreads and baskets as well as less liquid exotic/alternative markets improves SMN’s risk-adjusted returns. Last but not least, Michael and Joseph explain why they trade VIX futures and why this is a market they trade with a different methodology given the mean-reversion pattern of variance, and how they are monitoring this market – and potentially exiting open positions - on an hourly basis.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Moritz on Twitter.Follow Joseph on LinkedIn.Follow Michael on LinkedIn.Episode TimeStamps: 02:18 - Introduction to Michael Neubauer and Joseph Waldstein05:52 - How did they learn about trend following?14:18 - The perfect match?15:12 - What drove their decision to discretionary overlays?16:52 - What is causing dispersion in the...

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SI300: Finding the Optimal Trend Following Rules ft. Richard Brennan

SI300: Finding the Optimal Trend Following Rules ft. Richard Brennan

Together with Richard Brennan, we discuss the optimal way of doing trend following and how to find the optimal set of rules to use in different market regimes, how to examine market states through Markov models and how artificial intelligence will impact trend following and make short-term trading incredibly competitive. Lastly, we ask ChatGPT what the optimal way of doing trend following is.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Rich on Twitter.Episode TimeStamps:01:04 - What has been on our radar recently?04:03 - Industry performance update07:50 - Q1, Dennis: Given the nature of lengthy hold periods, do you recommend trading cash CFD's accounting for the overnight costs?11:40 - Q2, Ramki: Using ATR for position sizing when backtesting a trend following system14:47 - Optimal rules to use in different kinds of market regimes18:46 - How to use Markov models and mathematical algorithms to optimize trend following strategies41:17 - Is trend following threatened by AI?51:39 - "ChatGPT, what is the optimal way of doing trend following?"Resources discussed in this Episode:SI300: Optimal Trend Following Rules PaperCopyright © 2025 – CMC AG – All Rights Reserved----PLUS: Whenever you're ready... here are 3 ways I can help you in your investment Journey:1. eBooks that cover key topics that you need to know about...

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