TTU14: “You’re going to make a lot of money doing this…” ft. Jerry Parker – 2of2
Top Traders Unplugged16 Heinä 2014

TTU14: “You’re going to make a lot of money doing this…” ft. Jerry Parker – 2of2

Today we will continue our conversation with Jerry Parker the founder of Chesapeake Capital and widely known as the most successful Turtle ever.

After wrapping up his position with Richard J. Dennis as a famous “Turtle,” he went on to start his own asset management firm, Chesapeake Capital Corporation.

In this episode we discuss the evolving CTA industry and the story of Chesapeake. It’s a powerful story from one of the most successful people in the industry. We really hope you enjoy it.

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50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE

In This Episode, You’ll Learn:

  • How the research and complexity of systems has a backwards effect to making money
  • Challenges with entering stock markets with CTA strategies
  • Why counting the trades and analyzing sample size is what most investors forget to ask when seeking fund managers
  • Where the CTA managers have failed investors
  • How Jerry Parker handles emotions during drawdowns
  • Why markets have changed so that longer term focus has proven more successful
  • Learn about the philosophy of “The Markets are the Heroes”
  • Important lessons from a long, successful career in the CTA industry
  • What is it that keeps investors from Turtle CTAs and choose larger financial organizations
  • Why we see a skewed distribution towards profitability of long side trades and short side trades
  • The key legacy traits left behind by the Turtles and if the experiment could be replicated now
  • Why Jerry Parker’s contribution to the CTA space will be that he sticks with the plan and be the last one going down with the trend following ship
  • Lessons for upcoming CTA managers from Jerry Parker
  • Debunking trading cliches like, “you never go broke taking a profit” and “exits are more important than entries”
  • Personal habits that have contributed to Jerry Parker’s success
  • How Jerry Parker would start if he were to start all over again

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Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.

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GM51: Allocating Assets when Goldilocks Inverse ft. Christian Mueller-Glissmann

GM51: Allocating Assets when Goldilocks Inverse ft. Christian Mueller-Glissmann

Goldman Sachs Head of Asset Allocation Research, Christian Mueller-Glissmann shares his current investment framework with Cem Karsan and I today. It's an important conversation as it touches on so many of the most important questions that investors, individual as well as institutional, are faced with right now. How we as investors should allocate our capital taking into account the ever changing Global Macro regimes was fascinating to explore, with one of the sharpest thinkers on this topic. Like Cem and I, you will be impressed with the depth of research and knowledge that Christian shared in our conversation. -----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Cem on Twitter.Follow Christian on LinkedIn.Episode TimeStamps: 02:33 - Introduction to Christian Mueller-Glissmann04:05 - The global macro perspective08:13 - The changing relationship between stocks and bonds12:25 - Structural and cyclical issues21:35 - Is this inflation different?28:15 - The lag of structural effects32:04 - The age of abundance36:45 - Time to shift back to active management43:10 - The introduction of derivatives and how it affects the economy52:21 - A move away from bonds and how it will affect us01:00:06 - Does the interest cycle exist?01:00:52 - The Dynamic Balanced...

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SI263: Changes aren't permanent, but change is ft. Mark Rzepczynski

SI263: Changes aren't permanent, but change is ft. Mark Rzepczynski

Q3 is behind us, and we take stock of how is the trend following industry holding up? Is passthrough fees becoming a problem for investors in the multi-strategy space? Do we still have a bubble economy? Have we lost our imagination of what can happen in the economy? And why is it important to understand psychology when building models? Join us for this fascinating conversation with Mark Rzepczynski where we discuss this, and much more.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Mark on Twitter.Episode TimeStamps:01:09 - What's on Mark's radar righ now?07:25 - Multi-strategies and passthrough fees19:13 - Industry performance update22:28 - How is the industry holding up?25:47 - Big moves in the commodity space28:55 - Performance numbers30:02 - The more things change, the more they stay the same41:04 - Imagine the unimaginable46:42 - How psychology impacts markets53:45 - When and when not to be a trend follower59:49 - A chronological snobbery?01:04:03 - Important announcementCopyright © 2025 – CMC AG – All Rights Reserved----PLUS: Whenever you're ready... here are 3 ways I can help you in your investment Journey:1. eBooks that cover key topics that you need to know about In my eBooks, I put together some key discoveries and things I have learnt during the more than 3 decades I have worked in the Trend Following...

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GM50: A Century of Disorder ft. Helen Thompson

GM50: A Century of Disorder ft. Helen Thompson

Join us for a thought-provoking conversation with Professor Helen Thompson of Cambridge University, author of Disorder: Hard Times in the 21st Century, as we take a big picture perspective on the current global macro landscape. A key focus of Helen’s work is the role of energy markets in understanding global macro developments and we delve into Europe’s energy dependence on Russia. We hear about the factors which enabled Europe avoid an energy shortage in the winter of 2022 but why energy markets remain a risk factor for the Eurozone economy. We discuss the shift towards more proactive industrial policy in the US, what is driving it and how it relates to deglobalization. We also discuss China, its economic challenges and its evolving role in the Middle East and whether the global economy is truly fragmenting into distinct trading blocs. We get Helen’s perspective on the US dollar’s reserve status and why the US’s role in the international monetary order is as strong as ever and get her thoughts on the next year’s US presidential election. -----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Alan on Twitter.Follow Helen on Twitter.Episode TimeStamps: 02:36 - Introduction to Helen Thompson 06:31 - Why did she write her book, "Disorder: Hard Times in the 21st Century"?10:15 - The outlook for Europe's oil and gas dependency 17:23 - A longer-term structural challenge?...

27 Syys 20231h 2min

SI262: Opportunities in FX fueled by the FED ft. Alan Dunne

SI262: Opportunities in FX fueled by the FED ft. Alan Dunne

Tune in for this week’s trend following conversation with Alan Dunne, where we discuss Barry Eichengreen’s paper on living with high public debt and how the high level of debt can be addressed, the relationship between interest rates and GDP, how Forex trading have evolved over time and why it is having a renaissance at the moment. We also discuss return expectations in markets and diversified strategies and Alan reports what he experienced from a recent investor event in Paris.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Alan on Twitter.Episode TimeStamps:00:57 - What has been on Alan's radar recently?04:55 - Industry performance update08:16 - Living with high public debt20:27 - Other investors' view on the high level of debt24:10 - How the trading of FX markets have evolved32:58 - Do you need specialists to trade markets?37:45 - China imposing trading restrictions?40:36 - Where returns may go from here?48:49 - High interest rates not beneficial for high leverage strategies?51:05 - Inside knowledge from Paris Investor event59:11 - Alan to host upcoming Systematic Investor episodes01:00:29 - Thanks for listeningCopyright © 2025 – CMC AG – All Rights Reserved----PLUS: Whenever you're ready... here are 3 ways I can help you in your investment Journey:1. eBooks that cover key topics that you need to know about In my...

23 Syys 20231h 2min

IL21: How China Manages Their FX Reserves ft. Zongyuan Zoe Liu

IL21: How China Manages Their FX Reserves ft. Zongyuan Zoe Liu

In this episode we lift the veil on China’s often secretive system for managing its multi-trillion dollar holdings of foreign assets. Guiding us through the discussion is Dr. Zhongyuan Zoe Liu, the Maurice R. Greenberg fellow for China studies at the Council on Foreign Relations. Dr. Liu spent years researching financial reports and conducting in-person interviews with those involved in running China’s multiple “Sovereign Leveraged Funds”. We discuss how they evolved, what purposes they serve for the Communist party and why other countries may soon follow China’s lead. The interview is based on Dr. Liu’s new book: How The Communist Party of China Finances Its Global Ambitions.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Kevin on SubStack & read his Book.Follow Zongyuan on Twitter and Read her Book.Episode TimeStamps: 00:00 - Intro03:52 - Sebastien’s journey into the investment management industry07:45 - How Sebastien’s book came about19:43 - Investing in a rising interest rate environment24:06 - Responding to unexpected regime shifts in the markets33:24...

20 Syys 202359min

SI261: The Biggest Story in Asset Allocation ft. Nick Baltas

SI261: The Biggest Story in Asset Allocation ft. Nick Baltas

Today Nick Baltas and I embark on a journey through the shifting tides of investment strategy. For decades, equities have reigned supreme as the primary source of portfolio returns, while bonds played a crucial role as diversifiers. But over the past two decades, something intriguing has happened, and the dynamic between these two asset classes has evolved in ways we've never seen before. Stay tuned as we unravel the fascinating story of this transformation and explore what it means for modern investors. We also discuss what a leading Trend Follower describes as what really determins absolute returns in a trend following strategy...and you may be surprised of what it is.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Nick on Twitter.Episode TimeStamps:01:07 - What has caught Nick's attention recently?03:02 - Industry performance update04:30 - Q1, Corey: If an investor is heavily weighed equities, are they better off with trend following providers that don't include equities as one of the utilized asset classes10:31 - How model portfolios can benefit from trend following19:02 - A Changing Stock-Bond Correlation (AQR Paper)23:50 - How structural inflation can impact the stock-bond correlation27:46 - Illiquid alternatives and commodities as diversifiers35:27 - Significant shifts in the asset allocation space38:14 - Is cash better than bonds?41:40 - Paper from Transtrend47:15 - What really drives the absolute return in a trend...

16 Syys 202359min

GM49: Unveiling the Power of Confidence ft. Peter Atwater

GM49: Unveiling the Power of Confidence ft. Peter Atwater

Join us for a captivating episode where we delve into the hidden influence of confidence in our decision-making. Discover why seemingly unprecedented events are often predictable with the right insights. Peter Atwater provides an accessible framework for understanding confidence, helping us navigate uncertainty and lack of control. Our conversation delves into how confidence impacts politics and the economy, as well as how we can nurture confidence in the younger generation to face life's challenges with resilience. Tune in to gain valuable perspectives on the role of confidence in shaping our world.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Cem on Twitter.Follow Peter on Twitter.Episode TimeStamps: 02:04 - What does confidence mean to Peter?04:38 - The feeling of vulnerability06:19 - Being in the present07:57 - Understanding the confidence map12:08 - How to become confident13:32 - Peter's advice for the younger audience17:02 - Having confidence is not a constant17:48 - Learnings from a traumatic experience21:23 - Map it out22:33 - Why is sentiment changing so quickly?28:05 - The generational shift30:49 - Is crypto the new Woodstock?36:15 - Is the

13 Syys 20231h 13min

SI260: The Voldemort of the Asset Management Business ft. Andrew Beer

SI260: The Voldemort of the Asset Management Business ft. Andrew Beer

Is the economy actually doing better than we expected? This week we are joined by Andrew Beer, where we discuss the use of replication strategies in the current economic environment and how many markets/factors you should include, how managers can differentiate themselves from each other and the outlook for growth in the CTA industry. We also discuss the challenges of the Lemming effect in investing and today’s obsession with multi-strategy hedge funds, the capacity of the trend following industry and much more.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Andrew on Twitter.Episode TimeStamps: 01:20 - What has happened recently?05:51 - Industry performance update?07:13 - Are managed futures funds are right for replication?13:55 - How did they test it?17:23 - Are economies becoming less synchronised?25:02 - How many markets are enough for replication?29:01 - Why are people going into alternative markets?32:58 - Have managers become more different or similar?41:02 - Industry disruptions - how is Andrew different?47:22 - Why CTA assets will be much higher in 10 years54:44 - How Andrew resist making changes to his replication strategy56:54 - Train wreck in hedge fund land01:04:02 - How do multi-strat funds manage their expenses?01:08:25 - The challenges of the industry01:14:21 - Thanks for listeningCopyright © 2025 – CMC AG –

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