104. Mindful Healing: Psychedelic Therapy and Herbal Remedies for OCD with Natalia Aíza and Matthew Williams

104. Mindful Healing: Psychedelic Therapy and Herbal Remedies for OCD with Natalia Aíza and Matthew Williams

When it comes to finding effective ways to help people dealing with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD), the search for better treatments is an ongoing journey. Traditionally, we've relied on therapies and medications, but there's a new and somewhat controversial idea gaining attention – psychedelic therapy.

In today’s episode of The OCD Whisperer Podcast, we have the pleasure of hosting Natalia Aíza and Matthew Williams, the founders of Kairos Wellness Collective. Natalia Aíza, an LPC is a passionate mental health advocate who has personally journeyed with OCD. Matthew Williams, a clinical herbalist, brings a wealth of knowledge from his advanced degree in traditional Chinese medicine and his upbringing in South Korea. Both Natalia and Matthew have extensive knowledge about psychedelic treatment for OCD and herbal natural remedies.

During our conversation, we discussed their holistic approach to treating OCD, incorporating traditional Chinese medicine, herbs, and psychedelic treatments like ketamine. We emphasize the importance of a controlled setting for ketamine therapy and the potential for lasting change through regular sessions and integration activities. We also discuss the need for flexibility in treating OCD, as it presents differently in each individual.

In This Episode

  • [03:30] The current research for psychedelic treatment for OCD
  • [04:57] The shift from ego-centric OCD to ego-tonic OCD
  • [06:35] Effects of psilocybin and ketamine on neuroplasticity and anxiety reduction
  • [08:46] The IV setup and referral list
  • [09:37] The science behind ketamine
  • [17:18] Psychedelic medicine and therapy
  • [18:13] Incorporating EMDR and safe container
  • [19:17] Dosing and perspective with ketamine
  • [25:14] Flexibility in OCD treatment
  • [25:49] Kairos Wellness Collective

Notable Quotes

  • [09:43] "Am I spending my time doing the things that I care about? That's what ketamine did for me." - Natalia
  • [19:19] “Since by nature, you know, ketamine and other psychedelics are just associative. And so we must make sure that we get you back into your body and you feel comfortable so that you're connected." - Matthew
  • [23:14] "Ketamine is an incredibly safe drug that we know exactly how to dose it, it's been studied extensively with OCD and it's very effective." - Natalia

Our Guests

Natalia Aíza, a multicultural counselor, prioritizes active client participation in her modern, goal-oriented therapy. With diverse international experience, including creating a play therapy program in a Shanghai orphanage, she practices transformative therapy at Kairos Wellness Collective in Boulder, integrating outdoor activities with her therapy dog, Miszu.

Matthew Williams, a clinical herbalist rooted in Traditional Chinese Medicine, enhances well-being through personalized consultations and holistic treatments. Raised in South Korea, he combines acupressure, Tui Na massage, and dietary therapy, drawing from his own experiences with OCD and the Autistic spectrum to support individuals with Neurodiversity in customized sessions for holistic healing.

Resources & Links

Kristina Orlova, LMFT

Matthew Williams and Natalia Aíza

**Disclaimer**

Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.

Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

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93. Disgust Based OCD with Rich Gallagher

93. Disgust Based OCD with Rich Gallagher

Learn #allthingsocd with the OCD Whisperer Channel.   OCD Survival Kit: get your free resource with podcasts, books, and bonus worksheets and sign up for our newsletter: OCD Survival Kit + Newsletter Sign Up   Or if you are ready to dive into ERP, ICBT, or Sneaky Rituals masterclasses, go to www.korresults.com/e-learning *** Welcome to the OCD Whisperer Podcast, where we dive deep into the fascinating world of OCD and explore powerful treatments that can change lives! In this eye-opening episode, we'll be shining a spotlight on Disgust-Based OCD, a lesser-known but equally impactful subtype of OCD. Join me as I sit down with our incredible guest, an expert in the field, to unravel the symptoms and complexities of Disgust-Based OCD. Ever wondered how this unique form of OCD manifests? We've got you covered with insights on its distinctive symptoms and how it can affect daily life. But that's not all! We'll also be exploring the world of treatment options. From gaining mastery over avoided places to the effectiveness of Exposure Response Prevention (ERP), we'll uncover how these techniques can empower individuals to reclaim control over their lives and find freedom from Disgust-Based OCD. If you're curious about this compelling subtype of OCD or seeking guidance on treatment strategies, this episode is an absolute must-watch! So, grab your popcorn, hit that follow button, and let's embark on a journey of understanding and empowerment together! 🎬🔍 Here are Rich Gallaghers social links: www.anxietycamp.com https://www.facebook.com/rich.gallagher/   *** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

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92. PE for PTSD AND ExRP for OCD with Dr. Jessica Stern

92. PE for PTSD AND ExRP for OCD with Dr. Jessica Stern

Learn #allthingsocd with the OCD Whisperer Channel.   OCD Survival Kit: get your free resource with podcasts, books, and bonus worksheets. Or if you are ready to dive into ERP, ICBT, or Sneaky Rituals masterclasses, go to www.korresults.com/onlineresources *** Join host Kristina Orlova as she sits down with the incredible Dr. Stern to tackle some burning questions about OCD, PTSD, and two powerful treatments - ERP and PE.   Drumroll, please! 🥁 We kick things off with the most common thing that holds people with OCD back from seeking treatment. You won't believe the insight Dr. Stern drops on this one! 💡   But wait, there's more! We dive into the fascinating world of OCD and PTSD. Brace yourself as Dr. Stern spills the beans on PE treatment for PTSD, and how it's different from good ol' ERP for OCD.   Whether you're curious about the hurdles people face in seeking OCD treatment or you're itching to learn more about PE and ERP, this episode has got you covered. It's time to bust through barriers, gain knowledge, and supercharge your understanding.   Make sure you hit that follow button for more mind-blowing episodes of the OCD Whisperer Podcast. Join our badass community as we conquer OCD, spread awareness, and support each other on this wild journey of recovery.    Dr. Sterns social links: Baggage Drop Podcast Doctor Radio Sirius XM IG: @drjessicabstern www.drjessicabstern.com   *** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

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91. BDD with Dr. Eva Fisher

91. BDD with Dr. Eva Fisher

Learn #allthingsocd with the OCD Whisperer Channel.   OCD Survival Kit: get your free resource with podcasts, books, and bonus worksheets. Go to www.korresults.com/onlineresources *** Hey there, OCD fam! I sit down with the amazing Dr. Eva Fisher to dive into the world of Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD). Get ready for a candid chat about Dr. Fisher's personal journey, treatment experiences, recovery, and her incredible book, "The BDD Family Book." Join us as we uncover how Dr. Fisher first discovered she had BDD. Hear the real-life moments that led to her understanding and recognizing this complex disorder. It's a story you won't want to miss! We'll also explore Dr. Fisher's treatment journey and the strategies that helped her on the path to recovery. From therapy approaches to self-care techniques, we'll uncover the tools that made a difference in her healing process. Don't forget to hit that follow button to join our OCD community and stay tuned for more videos on all things OCD. Social Links: https://feartocourage.com/thebddfamily-book/ Email: eva@recoveryfrombdd.com *** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

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90. OCD to Compulsions with Paul McCarroll

90. OCD to Compulsions with Paul McCarroll

Learn #allthingsocd with the OCD Whisperer Channel.   OCD Survival Kit: get your free resource with podcasts, books, and bonus worksheets. Go to www.korresults.com/onlineresources *** Join me and our guest Paul McCarroll as we delve into the world of OCD, providing valuable insights and shedding light on how we can navigate our internal struggles with choice and empowerment.   In this episode, we tackle three essential questions: Why do people with OCD engage in compulsions? What are healthy alternatives to compulsions? The role of stress and exhaustion in OCD.   We aim to illustrate that we have the power to choose how we respond to our challenging internal experiences. Discover strategies for breaking free from the grip of OCD using Exposure Response Prevention, embracing healthier alternatives, and managing stress effectively. Subscribe now to embark on a journey of understanding, empowerment, and choice. Together, let's challenge the stigma surrounding OCD and inspire others to take control of their lives. Paul McCarroll can be found at: https://www.befreefromocd.com/ *** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

13 Kesä 202320min

89. Agoraphobia with Drew Linsalata from The Anxious Truth

89. Agoraphobia with Drew Linsalata from The Anxious Truth

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88. Motivation and OCD with Dr. Nathaniel Van Kirk

88. Motivation and OCD with Dr. Nathaniel Van Kirk

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87. Mindfulness-based therapy for OCD with Sarah Carr

87. Mindfulness-based therapy for OCD with Sarah Carr

Learn #allthingsocd with the OCD Whisperer Channel.   OCD Survival Kit: get your free resource with podcasts, books, and bonus worksheets. Go to www.korresults.com   Take control of your OCD with the "Be OCD Free" course. Start your ERP journey and say goodbye to intrusive thoughts. Learn practical strategies and take the first step towards a brighter, OCD-free future. You get video lessons, journal prompts, worksheets, step by step process of how to apply these tools and some bonuses (like a couple of guided meditations recorded just for you!) https://www.korresults.com/e-learning   *** On this episode of the OCD Whisperer Show, we're joined by Sarah Carr, LCSW, who specializes in treating OCD with mindfulness-based interventions. Sarah explains how mindfulness-based therapy helps individuals develop a non-judgmental awareness of their thoughts and emotions, reducing the anxiety and distress caused by OCD.   Sarah Carr's website: www.mindfulSF.com Instagram for Mindful SF   *** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

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86. A talk with Zack Westerback author of You Are Not Alone who also has OCD

86. A talk with Zack Westerback author of You Are Not Alone who also has OCD

Learn #allthingsocd with the OCD Whisperer Channel.   OCD Survival Kit: get your free resource with podcasts, books, and bonus worksheets. Go to www.korresults.com   Take control of your OCD with the "Be OCD Free" course. Start your ERP journey and say goodbye to intrusive thoughts. Learn practical strategies and take the first step towards a brighter, OCD-free future. You get video lessons, journal prompts, worksheets, step by step process of how to apply these tools and some bonuses (like a couple of guided meditations recorded just for you!) Enroll now!   *** If you want to know what it is like having OCD, writing a book, and being an advocate, then this episode is for you.   For more information about Zack Westerbeck: Website: https://www.zachwesterbeck.com/   *** Please note, while our host is a licensed marriage and family therapist specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders in the state of California, this podcast is for educational purposes only and should not be considered a substitute for therapy.   Stay tuned for bi-weekly episodes filled with valuable insights and tips for managing OCD and anxiety. And remember, keep going in the meantime. See you in the next episode!

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