JSJ 272: Functional Programming and ClojureScript with Eric Normand

JSJ 272: Functional Programming and ClojureScript with Eric Normand

JSJ 272: Functional Programming and ClojureScript with Eric NormandThis episode of JavaScript Jabber features panelists Aimee Knight and Charles Max Wood. Special guest Eric Normand is here to talk about functional programming and ClojureScript. Tune in to learn more![00:1:14] Introduction to Eric NormandEric works for purelyfunctional.tv. The main target market for his company is those people who want to transition into functional programming from their current job. He offers them support, shows them where to find jobs, and gives them the skills they need to do well.[00:02:22] Address that quicklyFunctional programming is used at big companies such as Wal-Mart, Amazon, EBay, Paypal, and banks. They all have Clojure but it is not used at the scale of Java or Ruby.

So yes, people are using it and it is influencing the mainstream programming industry.[00:3:48] How do you build an application?A common question Eric gets is, “How do I structure my application?” People are used to using frameworks. Most start from an existing app. People want a process to figure out how to take a set of features and turn it into code. Most that get into functional programming have development experience. The attitude in functional programming is that they do not want a framework. Clojure needs to be more beginner friendly. His talk is a four-step process on how to turn into code.[00:05:56] Can you expand on that a little?There are four steps to the process of structuring an application.
  1. Develop a metaphor for what you are trying to do. Developing the first implementation. How would you build it if you didn’t have code?
  2. Develop the operations. What are their properties? Example: will have to sort records chronological.
  3. Develop relationships between the operations.
  4. Run tests and refactor the program. Once you have that, you can write the prototype.
[00:13:13] Why can’t you always make the code better?Rules can’t be refactored into new concepts. They have to be thrown away and started completely over. The most important step is to think before beginning to write code. It may be the hardest part of the process, but it will make the implementation easier.[00:17:20] What are your thoughts on when people take it too far and it makes the code harder to read?He personally has written many bad abstractions. Writing bad things is how you get better as a programmer. The ones that go too far are the ones that don’t have any basis or are making something new up. They are trying to be too big and use no math to back up their code.[00:20:05] Is the hammock time when you decide if you want to make something abstract or should you wait until you see patterns develop?He thinks people should think about it before, although always be making experiments that do not touch production.[00:23:33] Is there a trade off between using ClojureScript and functional JavaScript?In terms of functional programming in JavaScript don’t have some of the niceties that there are in Clojure script. Clojure Script has a large standard library. JavaScript is not as well polished for functional programming; it is a lot of work to do functional programming it and not as much support.[00:27:00:] Dave Thomas believes that the future of software is functional programming. Do you agree?Eric thinks that it seems optimistic. He doesn’t see functional programming take over the world but does think that it has a lot to teach. The main reason to learn functional programming is to have more tools in your toolbox.[00:31:40] If this is a better way to solve these problems, why aren’t people using it? There is a prejudice against functional programming. When Eric was first getting into it, people would ask why he was wasting his time. Believes that people are jaded. Functional programming feels foreign because people are used to a familiar way of programming; they usually start with a language and get comfortable.[00:40:58] If people want to get started with it, is there an easy way in? Lodash is great to start replacing for loops. It will clean up code. There are other languages that compile to JavaScript. For example, Elm is getting a lot of attention right now. It is a Haskell like syntax. If you want more of a heavyweight language, use TypeScript or PureScript. ClojureScript is into live programming. You are able to type, save, and see results of the code immediately on the screen in front of you.PicksAimee:EricCharles
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Svelte 5: Compiler, Signals, and Web App Performance - JSJ 627

Svelte 5: Compiler, Signals, and Web App Performance - JSJ 627

Rich Harris joins this week's episode. They dive deep into the world of web application performance, signals, and the capabilities of Svelte 5. Join them as they explore the innovative features of Svelte 5, its compiler capabilities, and its potential impact on application building. From discussing the fastest mainstream framework to drawing parallels with traditional compiler optimization modes, they leave no stone unturned in dissecting the advancements in Svelte 5. Stay tuned as they also explore topics like React server components, the controversy around embedding SQL in React components, and much more. SponsorsChuck's Resume TemplateDeveloper Book ClubBecome a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipSocialsGitHub: Rich HarrisPicksCharles - Sushi Go Party! | Board GameDan - "Rethinking reactivity" talk by Rich Harris from 2019Dan - I Care a Lot Dan - Saga of the Pliocene ExileBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

9 Huhti 20241h 21min

Embracing Web Standards with Owen Buckley - JSJ 626

Embracing Web Standards with Owen Buckley - JSJ 626

Delve into a thought-provoking discussion with Owen Buckley, a seasoned web developer with 20 years of experience. Owen introduces Greenwood, a project focused on leveraging web standards and simplifying web development. Throughout the episode, They explore Greenwood's evolution, capabilities, and unique approach to application scaffolding and local development. From the emphasis on HTML and web components to Greenwood's seamless integration with HTMX, they uncover the project's vision to provide an onramp close to web standards. Join them as they navigate through the world of web development and gain valuable insights from Owen's expertise and passion for web standards and components.SponsorsChuck's Resume TemplateDeveloper Book ClubBecome a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipSocialsLinkedIn: Owen BuckleyPicksCharles - The White CastleOwen - Hypermedia SystemsBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

2 Huhti 20241h 9min

Simplifying Development with Deno - JSJ 625

Simplifying Development with Deno - JSJ 625

Kevin Whinnery is the Head of Developer Relations at Deno. They dive deep into the world of Deno, exploring its evolution, functionality, and differences from its predecessor, Node.js. They discuss the challenges Deno has faced in establishing compatibility with the NPM ecosystem, its out-of-the-box TypeScript support, built-in tools, and its use in edge computing. With insights into Deno's standard library, TypeScript implementation, and plans for improving compatibility with popular meta frameworks, this episode is a must-listen for developers looking to stay ahead in the ever-evolving world of JavaScript. Get ready to uncover the latest developments in Deno and its impact on the development landscape!SponsorsChuck's Resume TemplateDeveloper Book ClubBecome a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipSocialsLinkedIn: Kevin WhinneryGitHub: kwhinneryTwitter: @kevinwhinneryPicksCharles - ApiaryCharles - Puppeteer | PuppeteerDan - The GentlemanKevin - House of NinjasSteve - New data shows: Tabs more popular than Spaces. But Spaces users are happier.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

29 Maalis 20241h 14min

Navigating Web Development Challenges - JSJ 624

Navigating Web Development Challenges - JSJ 624

Shay Davidson is a full-stack web, mobile, and game developer. He is currently leading the front end at Lemonade. The discussion revolves around the use of Supabase as a free database and its comparisons to Firebase for developer experience. They dive into building applications with Next.js and React 18, utilizing React Server Components to interact with the Supabase API. They share their experiences, frustrations, and insights regarding caching mechanisms, server actions, and the challenges of adapting to new technologies in the React ecosystem. The episode also delves into the React server components controversy, the importance of learning and experimenting with new technologies, the use of AI for creative purposes, and the potential dangers of deep fakes.SponsorsChuck's Resume TemplateDeveloper Book ClubBecome a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipSocialsLinkedIn: Shay DavidsonPicksAJ - Dune: Part Two (2024)Dan - Arnold Schwarzenegger Sings About Rainbows (AI)Dan - Finance worker pays out $25 million after video call with deepfake CFOShai - Rendezvous with RamaSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

18 Maalis 20241h 16min

Unveiling Chrome DevTools: Network Monitoring, Cache Debugging, and Beyond - JSJ 623

Unveiling Chrome DevTools: Network Monitoring, Cache Debugging, and Beyond - JSJ 623

Michael Hablich is the product lead for Chrome DevTools and Puppeteer. They delve into a comprehensive discussion on various features and uses of the network tab for monitoring API calls, performance debugging with cache, simulating network conditions, and visual understanding of page loading. They cover topics such as debugging, PHP, and the history of dev tools. Michael Hablich shares insights into the development and evolution of Chrome DevTools, highlighting its migration to TypeScript and the team behind it.Tune in to uncover the challenges and advancements in debugging tools, the potential integration of AI, and a range of powerful features within Chrome DevTools.SponsorsChuck's Resume TemplateDeveloper Book ClubBecome a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipSocialsLinkedIn: Michael HablichPicksDan - Killing EveMichael - Spirit IslandsSteve - Victory GripsSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

12 Maalis 20241h 22min

The Alphabet Soup of Performance Measurements - JSJ 622

The Alphabet Soup of Performance Measurements - JSJ 622

Dan Shappir takes the lead in explaining all of the acronyms and metrics for measuring the performance of your web applications. He leads a discussion through the ins and outs of monitoring performance and then how to improve and check up on how your website is doing.SponsorsChuck's Resume TemplateDeveloper Book ClubBecome a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipLinks<picture>: The Picture element - HTML: Hypertext Markup Language | MDNPicksAJ - The Way of KingsAJ - Taco BellAimee - web.devAimee - @DanShappirDan - New accessibility feature in Chrome Dev Tools: simulate vision deficiencies, including blurred vision & various types of color blindness. In Canary at the bottom of the Rendering tab.Dan - Better Call SaulSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

27 Helmi 20241h 19min

Simplifying Full-Stack Dev with the "Boring JavaScript Stack" and Sails Framework - JSJ 621

Simplifying Full-Stack Dev with the "Boring JavaScript Stack" and Sails Framework - JSJ 621

Kelvin Omereshone is the lead maintainer of Sales.js. In this episode, they uncover the complexities of the "Boring JavaScript Stack" and its implications for building full-stack web applications. They engage in in-depth discussions on MVC conventions, data modeling, front-end and back-end integration challenges, and the role of frameworks like React and Vue in UI development. Kelvin shares his insights on the "Boring JavaScript Stack" and its aim to simplify development by leveraging stable technologies. Alongside these technical discussions, they share personal anecdotes and delve into topics ranging from aquarium hobbies to drone certifications. Join them as they navigate through the multifaceted landscape of JavaScript developmentSponsorsChuck's Resume Template Developer Book Club Become a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipSocialsLinkedIn: Kelvin OmereshoneSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

20 Helmi 202453min

Unpacking Core Web Vitals - JSJ 620

Unpacking Core Web Vitals - JSJ 620

Harry Roberts is a web performance consultant. They immerse themselves in the critical realm of web performance and JavaScript. The esteemed panel, including the renowned Harry Roberts, delves into the intricate details of site speed measurement and the evolving landscape of web performance metrics. The conversation sheds light on the profound impact of Core Web Vitals on businesses and the challenges they pose. Join them as they navigate the intricacies of web development, explore the nuances of user experience, and unravel the complexities of performance optimization.SponsorsChuck's Resume Template Developer Book Club Become a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipSocialsLinkedIn: Harry RobertsGitHub: Harry RobertsPicksAJ - ImageOptimAJ - AmeriDroid AJ - CloudFreeAJ - TRÅDFRIAJ - Aquarium Co-OpAJ - MJ AquascapingAJ - AQUAPROSAJ - Father FishDan - Apple Vision ProDan - Cache Rules Everything | Harry Roberts | performance.now() 2023Dan - GriseldaSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

13 Helmi 20241h 19min

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