JSJ 272: Functional Programming and ClojureScript with Eric Normand

JSJ 272: Functional Programming and ClojureScript with Eric Normand

JSJ 272: Functional Programming and ClojureScript with Eric NormandThis episode of JavaScript Jabber features panelists Aimee Knight and Charles Max Wood. Special guest Eric Normand is here to talk about functional programming and ClojureScript. Tune in to learn more![00:1:14] Introduction to Eric NormandEric works for purelyfunctional.tv. The main target market for his company is those people who want to transition into functional programming from their current job. He offers them support, shows them where to find jobs, and gives them the skills they need to do well.[00:02:22] Address that quicklyFunctional programming is used at big companies such as Wal-Mart, Amazon, EBay, Paypal, and banks. They all have Clojure but it is not used at the scale of Java or Ruby.

So yes, people are using it and it is influencing the mainstream programming industry.[00:3:48] How do you build an application?A common question Eric gets is, “How do I structure my application?” People are used to using frameworks. Most start from an existing app. People want a process to figure out how to take a set of features and turn it into code. Most that get into functional programming have development experience. The attitude in functional programming is that they do not want a framework. Clojure needs to be more beginner friendly. His talk is a four-step process on how to turn into code.[00:05:56] Can you expand on that a little?There are four steps to the process of structuring an application.
  1. Develop a metaphor for what you are trying to do. Developing the first implementation. How would you build it if you didn’t have code?
  2. Develop the operations. What are their properties? Example: will have to sort records chronological.
  3. Develop relationships between the operations.
  4. Run tests and refactor the program. Once you have that, you can write the prototype.
[00:13:13] Why can’t you always make the code better?Rules can’t be refactored into new concepts. They have to be thrown away and started completely over. The most important step is to think before beginning to write code. It may be the hardest part of the process, but it will make the implementation easier.[00:17:20] What are your thoughts on when people take it too far and it makes the code harder to read?He personally has written many bad abstractions. Writing bad things is how you get better as a programmer. The ones that go too far are the ones that don’t have any basis or are making something new up. They are trying to be too big and use no math to back up their code.[00:20:05] Is the hammock time when you decide if you want to make something abstract or should you wait until you see patterns develop?He thinks people should think about it before, although always be making experiments that do not touch production.[00:23:33] Is there a trade off between using ClojureScript and functional JavaScript?In terms of functional programming in JavaScript don’t have some of the niceties that there are in Clojure script. Clojure Script has a large standard library. JavaScript is not as well polished for functional programming; it is a lot of work to do functional programming it and not as much support.[00:27:00:] Dave Thomas believes that the future of software is functional programming. Do you agree?Eric thinks that it seems optimistic. He doesn’t see functional programming take over the world but does think that it has a lot to teach. The main reason to learn functional programming is to have more tools in your toolbox.[00:31:40] If this is a better way to solve these problems, why aren’t people using it? There is a prejudice against functional programming. When Eric was first getting into it, people would ask why he was wasting his time. Believes that people are jaded. Functional programming feels foreign because people are used to a familiar way of programming; they usually start with a language and get comfortable.[00:40:58] If people want to get started with it, is there an easy way in? Lodash is great to start replacing for loops. It will clean up code. There are other languages that compile to JavaScript. For example, Elm is getting a lot of attention right now. It is a Haskell like syntax. If you want more of a heavyweight language, use TypeScript or PureScript. ClojureScript is into live programming. You are able to type, save, and see results of the code immediately on the screen in front of you.PicksAimee:EricCharles
  • Ionic Framework
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Unpacking Core Web Vitals - JSJ 620

Unpacking Core Web Vitals - JSJ 620

Harry Roberts is a web performance consultant. They immerse themselves in the critical realm of web performance and JavaScript. The esteemed panel, including the renowned Harry Roberts, delves into the intricate details of site speed measurement and the evolving landscape of web performance metrics. The conversation sheds light on the profound impact of Core Web Vitals on businesses and the challenges they pose. Join them as they navigate the intricacies of web development, explore the nuances of user experience, and unravel the complexities of performance optimization.SponsorsChuck's Resume Template Developer Book Club Become a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipSocialsLinkedIn: Harry RobertsGitHub: Harry RobertsPicksAJ - ImageOptimAJ - AmeriDroid AJ - CloudFreeAJ - TRÅDFRIAJ - Aquarium Co-OpAJ - MJ AquascapingAJ - AQUAPROSAJ - Father FishDan - Apple Vision ProDan - Cache Rules Everything | Harry Roberts | performance.now() 2023Dan - GriseldaSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

13 Helmi 20241h 19min

Mastering Back-End Functionalities and Development with AWS Amplify - JSJ 619

Mastering Back-End Functionalities and Development with AWS Amplify - JSJ 619

In this episode, Steve delves into a deep and insightful conversation with Erik Hanchett from Amazon AWS. They explore a wide range of topics, from discussing the possibilities and complexities of using multiple software services for back-end development to unraveling the benefits of using services like AWS Amplify for handling multiple tasks and integrated functionalities. The conversation also touches on the development and deployment processes, local testing environment setup, language choices, and the Vue component library with connected components and theming. Erik shares his vast expertise and knowledge in the field, and the engaging dialogue offers valuable insights and recommendations for both experienced and aspiring developers.SponsorsChuck's Resume Template Raygun - Application Monitoring For Web & Mobile AppsBecome a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipSocialsLinkedIn: Erik Hanchett PicksErik - Apple Vision ProSteve - Why You’ve Never Been In A Plane CrashSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

6 Helmi 20241h 10min

Exploring AI Impact on Code Generation and Quality Metrics - JSJ 618

Exploring AI Impact on Code Generation and Quality Metrics - JSJ 618

Conor Bronsdon is the host of the Dev Interrupted Podcast and currently works at LinearB. They dive into the world of generative AI tools in software development, exploring the impact, challenges, and potential benefits they present. They engage in a lively discussion about the use of AI tools like Copilot and the implications for code generation, team efficiency, and happiness. The conversation also touches on the concerns and considerations surrounding AI integration in coding, including compliance, quality, and intellectual property. Join them as they delve into the evolving landscape of AI in software development, the quest for improved developer experiences, and ethical considerations.SponsorsChuck's Resume Template Developer Book Club Become a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipLinksDev InterruptedSocialsLinkedIn: Conor BronsdonConor BronsdonPicksAJ - Market Saturation = 98.9% - What Now?AJ - Mentour PilotAJ - Keychain Pin ToolAJ - Open AudibleConor - Feel-Good Productivity: How to Do More of What Matters to YouSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

30 Tammi 20241h 6min

Inside the World of React: Server Components, Unidirectional Data Flow, and Frameworks - JSJ 617

Inside the World of React: Server Components, Unidirectional Data Flow, and Frameworks - JSJ 617

Sam Selikoff is the founder of Build UI, Inc. They unpack a myriad of discussions surrounding JavaScript and its applications. They delve into topics such as RPC resurgence, React server components, and the challenges and solutions around integrating design and components. A variety of technical concepts, tools, and frameworks, including Tailwind, Redux, and Remix, are also explored. Additionally, the episode touches upon important mental health conversations, personal experiences, and the pitfalls of fragmented media subscriptions. SponsorsChuck's Resume Template Developer Book Club Become a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipSocialsTwitter: @samselikoffPicksAJ - No BackendAJ - Home AssistantAJ - CloudFreeAJ - AmeriDroidAJ - Chaos WalkingDan - Blue Eye SamuraiDan - Samurai JackSam - Lessons in ChemistrySupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

23 Tammi 20241h 22min

Streamlining AI Integration - JSJ 616

Streamlining AI Integration - JSJ 616

Ismail Pelaseyed is the co-founder of Superagent. They delve into the world of AI technology, open-source frameworks, and the practical applications of AI assistants. The conversation covers a range of topics, from the technical and philosophical differences between AI frameworks to the importance of user-facing UI components with the power of AI. They also talk about the practical use cases of Superagent, its potential impact on the AI industry, and the challenges and considerations surrounding the deployment and monetization of open-source projects.SponsorsChuck's Resume Template Raygun - Application Monitoring For Web & Mobile AppsBecome a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipLinksSuperagentSocialsLinkedIn: Ismail PelaseyedPicksAJ - His & Her BidetAJ - Ollama (Installer)AJ - Home AssistantAJ - Chaos Walking (Books)AJ - Market Saturation = 98.9% - What Now?AJ - Keychain Pin ToolCharles - Disney ChronologyCharles - once.comDan - PrometheusDan - Which one is the un-React?Ismail - Fargoismail - outlinesSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

16 Tammi 20241h 17min

Iterating on Open Source - JSJ 615

Iterating on Open Source - JSJ 615

Today the panel is discussing iterating on open source projects. Aimee and AJ recall a conversation they had in the past on this subject and AJ talks about some of his experience iterating with open source. AJ believes that we have an obligation to capture the value of what you create so that we can reinvest and create more value, though he admits that making money in open source is a unique challenge because donations only really work if you have a project that gets billions of downloads a month. As your project grows, it has to change in order to survive, and eventually you will need to get financial support from your project. The panel agrees that some of the main issues with iterating in open source are maintaining the code and getting feedback from users, financial backing, and roadmapping and integrations.The panel discusses their methods for getting feedback from their users. This feedback is valuable because it can show you things that you missed. They acknowledge that there can be conflicts of interest between those who only use the project and those who financially support it, and you have to make a choice. Unfortunately, someone is probably going to be inconvenienced no matter what choice you make. When making these decisions, you have to consider who it helps, who it frustrates, and who it may cause problems for. The panelists talk about different ways they’ve handled making these decisions in the past. The JavaScript experts talk about the importance of having data on your user base in order to make good choices for your users. They talk about different methods for notifying your users of upcoming changes and how it will affect compatibility, and some of the challenges with communicating with your users. AJ talks about an iteration he thought was a good idea but that a lot of people hated and how he noticed that the new users liked it but the old users did not. They panel agrees that people in general don’t like change. AJ talks about what he learned from this experience. Another common issue is integrating with other services. Integrating with cloud services, or at least giving people the option to integrate gives you an opportunity to reach more people and maintain the project long term. AJ gives some final thoughts to close the show, namely that most projects never go anywhere, and that’s ok. If you’ve got something that starts going somewhere, think early on about how you can better serve the community and remember that these people are mostly grateful and semi-willing to support you. He believes that if you are helping people create value, you deserve to see the fruits of your labor. He advises listeners to stay true to your open source ideals, think about your users perspective, and that the earlier you can think about this and make these choices, the better it is for your project SponsorsChuck's Resume Template Developer Book Club Become a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipLinksHow-npm-am-iReactVue.jsLet’s EncryptAsync/awaitNodePicksAimee - Debug Like a NinjaSteve - Jack Ryan AJ - Why I, as a black man, attend KKK meetingsCharles - It’s a Wonderful LifeCharles - Mr. Kreuger’s ChristmasSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

9 Tammi 202457min

Dev Dilemmas: TypeScript Triumphs and Quirks of JavaScript Arrays - JSJ 614

Dev Dilemmas: TypeScript Triumphs and Quirks of JavaScript Arrays - JSJ 614

AJ, Charles, Dan, and Steve dive deep into all things JavaScript and TypeScript. In this episode, they discuss the pros and cons of arrow functions and the ongoing debate about using semicolons at the end of JavaScript statements. They also explore the use of different types of quotes for strings and the rise in popularity of TypeScript among developers. Additionally, they cover a wide range of topics, including array manipulation, coding laziness, and the challenges of reading and understanding JavaScript code. Join them as they navigate through these intriguing discussions and gather valuable insights for our development journey.SponsorsChuck's Resume Template Raygun - Application Monitoring For Web & Mobile AppsBecome a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipPicksAJ - Chaos Walking: The Complete Trilogy: Books 1-Charles - SaltconCharles - MysteriumDan - CatanDan - Documentary about the history of Zionism and the founding of Israel: "Pillar of Fire"Steve - How archaeologists reconstructed the burning of Jerusalem in 586 BCESupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

2 Tammi 20241h 33min

The Future of Authentication in JavaScript: An Inside Look into Passport JS with Jared Hanson - JSJ 613

The Future of Authentication in JavaScript: An Inside Look into Passport JS with Jared Hanson - JSJ 613

Jared Hanson is a software engineer at Okta. In this episode, they delve into the world of authentication strategies, troubleshooting touchscreen frustrations, and exploring the evolution of web application technology. They touch on the challenges of secure authentication, the complexity of JavaScript type checking, and the intersection of security and usability in technologies like WebAuthn. Join us as they discuss their experiences with Passport JS, the potential of WebAuthn, the frustration with ongoing changes in browser technology, and much more. Tune in for an insightful discussion on cutting-edge trends in the JavaScript and Node.js ecosystems!SponsorsChuck's Resume Template Developer Book Club Become a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipSocialsLinkedIn: Jared HansonTwitter: @jaredhansonPicksAJ - SQL <---> Types <---> JShttps://github.com/nettofarah/postgres-schema-tshttps://www.npmjs.com/package/ts-to-jsdochttps://jswithtypes.com/AJ - Creative T60 SpeakersAJ - HammerHead Metal Shower HeadAJ - Degrees of Comfort King Dual-Heated BlanketCharles - Risk Legacy | Board GameCharles - Ubiquiti: UniFi - IntroductionSteve - The DriveSteve - FigmaSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

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