Reacting to recent Charles Hoskinsons latest whiteboard vid on scale

00:00 intro

00:54 lets frame what we are talking about and why!

Hydra

Ouroboros leos

Zk rollups

Side chains

Partner chains

Bls12381 curve primitives

Plutus built ins

Kitty mew mews 05:45

What will actually scale Cardano?

06:05 Most important takeaways from Charles vid on Cardano scale

11:00 Block space & “Cardano should have a fee market”

13:17 a tiered fee market vs a fee market in the traditional sense, what mev/bpev is and what happens to mev/bpev if we went with a fee market vs tiered fees, and idk I guess id call this a tiny bit grey when we ask if fee markets break determinism because traditional fee markets would not theoretically break determinism if you do not consider a fee an output?

23:20 I throw some thoughts at Riley on how tiered fees would work in ouroboros Leos and he shares some thoughts back … I also mention the Rpc equivalent on Cardano where you have a private validator giving you’re tx’s somewhat of a white glove service tho I forget how to say it and Riley never answered me tho I asked 3 times throughout the whole vid !!! haha so if anyone knows what I’m talking about please correct me in the comments

30:00 Is cross layer transactions exhibiting Atomic Composability with the layered approach ever gunna be possible with blockchains? Back and forth on Wallet convenience argument for a cross chain future

35:00 A comparison with radix’s cerbeus sharding with atomic commitmetment approach and with when Charles mentions Cardano and sharding with ouroboros Leos. The importance of synchronicity. What Charles means by sharded?

45:55 Ergo and super blocks

47:00 summery and more comments on Cardano and scale… Also compliments and commentary on Charles Hoskinson this season … and a little bit of live research on ouroboros peras

57:00 “don’t die” and Riley wishes “Solana bros” the best ! Crypto gangs analogy painting tribalism!

59:00 What are rollups and zk rollups ? Rollup “vm’s” and arithmetic circuits ! Ulpc and Plutus vm breakdown. how and when Zk Rollups can work to add more scale in a couple dimensions to Cardano…. What people mean by “zk validators” … is there trade offs between scale and atomic composability when using zk rollups? The flexibility with composing logic and a technical break down of leveraging “zk rollups”

01:15:40 Cardano is adding support for an elliptic curve Bls12381 and with it comes 17 curve primitives so we explain what all that means and we then discuss what the Plutus built ins will enable ! Also we discuss Midnight ! I explain what elliptic curves do asking Riley to either add or subtract to my explanation and he adds a lot ! How Cardano is able to retain its unique or deterministic properties while supporting and augmented tech from outside of Cardano !

01:25:00 Riley says what he think will be the biggest narrative for Cardano this cycle ! My final thought is that I don’t know what the landscape of crypto will be and explain why then Riley chimes in and gives us some additional things to think about !

01:28:30 Catch up with Riley and what Summon is doing and what’s happening in the regulatory landscape for daos! “Back and forth about everything all the time” Then Dao land is brought up as well as what Riley is up to with “BIG DAO” which will be relevant to anyone with Cardano native assets or ada… also how Riley created an anti/inverse liquid stake derivative for ada??? The fluidity of “BIG DAO” will push the boundaries of DAO robustness ! What are the dao related regulatory updates and why Riley will be reaching out to auditing firms to get moving on being approved in the state of Utah…

The value of playing with the tech from an educational and due diligence pov….. why big dao has an extremely inclusive approach !