How to Know When to Come Out, Who to Come Out to First, and How to Come Out (with Candice Czubernat)

💡 Guest bio

Candice's story is one of self-discovery and resilience. Growing up in a Christian environment, she grappled with her own identity and struggled with depression and anxiety. It wasn't until she reached college that she realized she was gay, a realization that completely caught her off guard. This revelation propelled her to want to help others in similar situations, leading her to pursue a career as a therapist. Drawing upon her own experiences, Candice is determined to provide support and guidance to individuals who may be facing similar challenges. She understands the pain of feeling conflicted and aims to help others accept and embrace their authentic selves.

ℹ️ Introduction

Welcome back to another episode of Lesbi-Honest, the podcast where we dive into the stories and experiences of individuals who have overcome challenges, found self-acceptance, and built fulfilling lives. I'm your host, Sarah, and today we have a special guest joining us. Please welcome Candice Zuberty, a therapist and founder of The Christian Closet, dedicated to providing LGBTQ affirming counseling, coaching, and spiritual direction.

In today's episode, Candice opens up about her personal journey into counseling, the launch of The Christian Closet, and her own discovery and acceptance of her homosexuality. We'll explore the complexities of coming out later in life, the intricacies of navigating non-affirming families, and the importance of finding a supportive community.

Sarah and Candice discuss the difference between being tolerated, accepted, and affirmed, especially in the context of churches that claim to welcome everyone. They shed light on the potential impacts of internalizing homophobia and how seeking therapy from an LGBTQ+ affirming clinician can be transformative.

Throughout this candid conversation, you'll hear stories of resilience, love, and healing. We'll also explore practical advice for those who may be struggling with their own identities or facing challenges within their families and communities.

Join us as we listen to Candice's insights, personal experiences, and the valuable lessons she's learned along the way. So grab a cup of tea, find a cozy spot, and get ready for another inspiring episode of Lesbi-Honest.

📚 Timestamped overview

00:00:42 Intersecting story, self-acceptance, and painful struggle.

00:06:42 Bible college friends, disagreement, reconciliation, acceptance.

00:08:57 Mom feared hell, dad's heart attack. Burdened secrecy, painful distancing. Relief in death desired.

00:13:23 Build a supportive team, find independence, be brave.

00:17:01 Fear of being discovered on podcast.

00:20:10 Supporting LGBTQ+ individuals navigating relationships, spirituality, and self-acceptance.

00:21:20 Rediscovering and healing spiritual path to God.

00:27:05 Seeking counseling for religious affirmation and acceptance.

00:27:56 Important distinction: Tolerate vs Celebrate LGBTQ+ individuals.

❇️ Key topics and bullets

Primary Topic: Introduction and Background

- Introduction to the podcast episode and the guest, Candice Czubernat

- Curiosity about the difference between being welcoming or accepting versus affirming in the context of churches

Primary Topic: Candice's Journey and The Christian Closet

- Candice's journey into counseling and the launch of The Christian Closet

- Her personal experience in discovering her own gayness

- The focus of The Christian Closet on helping individuals heal from spiritual abuse and trauma, and coming out to non-affirming families

- The prevalence of individuals coming out later in life due to growing up in a Christian context

Primary Topic: Personal Experiences and Relationships

- Candice's personal experiences with being in the closet and hiding her true...