#178 This or That, Vol. 2: Endorphin Speed 4 vs. Everything? Best Hoka Racer? Stretch When?? Pancakes vs. Waffles!?

#178 This or That, Vol. 2: Endorphin Speed 4 vs. Everything? Best Hoka Racer? Stretch When?? Pancakes vs. Waffles!?

The game is This or That? No gray areas, no "it depends". Matt and David go back and forth on shoes, training, and more. They pit the soon-to-be-released Saucony Endorphin Speed 4 against a bevvy of competitors' shoes like the Boston 12 and Mach X. They debate easy runs vs. long runs, stretching post-run or not, running in the rain vs. running in the cold, and even more. Have a debate you'd like to hear? DM us on Instagram or email us at doctorsofrunningpodcast@gmail.com.

Chapters

  • 0:00 - Intro & Olympic trials reactions
  • 10:00 - Endorphin Speed 4 vs. Boston 12
  • 17:40 - Endorphin Speed 4 vs. Mach X for long run workouts
  • 21:24 - Non-plated long distance racer
  • 26:38 - Easy long runs vs. long run workouts
  • 29:14 - Stretching post workout
  • 32:16 - Rocket X 2 vs. Cielo X 1
  • 38:26 - Asics Nimbus vs. Cumulus
  • 40:32 - Endorphin Speed 4 vs. Rebellion Flash 2
  • 44:26 - Running in the cold vs. running in the rain
  • 50:20 - Pacers or not during races
  • 56:01 - Medial post vs. sidewalls/guide rails
  • 1:01:18 - Pancakes vs. waffles
  • 1:02:27 - Wrap-up


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#249 Our Top Running Shoes of 2025 So Far

#249 Our Top Running Shoes of 2025 So Far

As we head into the back half of the year, it's time to make our picks for our favorite shoes of the 2025 so far. Matt, Andrea, David, and Nathan put together a 4-shoe rotation from their 2025 favorit...

2 Heinä 20251h 5min

#248 Our Top 3 Keys for Strength and Conditioning for Runners

#248 Our Top 3 Keys for Strength and Conditioning for Runners

Strength training and cross training are some of the best things runners can do to help their performance, and we're passionate about them here at DOR. Nathan, Matt, and David join up to share their k...

25 Kesä 202554min

#247 Our Best Stable Neutral Shoes of 2025

#247 Our Best Stable Neutral Shoes of 2025

You know we love stable neutral shoes at DOR. Matt & David join up to take a look at the state of stable neutral shoes in 2025 and give their favorite picks. They define some key terms like sole flair...

18 Kesä 202555min

#246 Mailbag! Shoe Fit of the Metaspeed Edge Tokyo, Minimalist Shoes in 2025, Our Favorite Running Apparel

#246 Mailbag! Shoe Fit of the Metaspeed Edge Tokyo, Minimalist Shoes in 2025, Our Favorite Running Apparel

David & Nathan are here with a mailbag, where we answer your questions. They discuss the upcoming Metaspeed Edge Tokyo, the latest in minimalist/zero-drop shoes, running store shoe fitting, and more. ...

11 Kesä 202544min

#245 Between Two Feet: Brooks Hyperion Max 3 and Do Super Trainers Make Good Racing Shoes?

#245 Between Two Feet: Brooks Hyperion Max 3 and Do Super Trainers Make Good Racing Shoes?

Matt & Andrea are back with another installation of Between Two Feet, where they contrast their different experiences in a shoe. Last time it was the Nike Vaporfly 4, and this time it's the Brooks Hyp...

4 Kesä 202531min

#244 Buy/Sell and This or That with Yowana! The Best Long Run Day? Soft or Firm Midsoles? Favorite Shoes to Review?

#244 Buy/Sell and This or That with Yowana! The Best Long Run Day? Soft or Firm Midsoles? Favorite Shoes to Review?

Matt & David are joined by Yowana for a special episode of hot takes only: Buy/Sell and This or That! We put ourselves on the hot seat here–no gray area, no middle ground. We pick between, and argue o...

28 Touko 20251h 21min

#243 Between Two Feet: Nike Vaporfly 4 and the Impact of Geometry Changes to a Shoe

#243 Between Two Feet: Nike Vaporfly 4 and the Impact of Geometry Changes to a Shoe

If you've been following us for a while, you know that Matt & Andrea often experience shoes completely differently, so on this episode they get together to compare & contrast their experiences in Nike...

21 Touko 202540min

#242 Plantar Fasciitis, Revisited

#242 Plantar Fasciitis, Revisited

Plantar fascia pain plagues many a runner, but finding its cause and treating it can be mystifying and frustrating. Nate is joined by returning guest Doug Adams to take a deep dive into plantar facia ...

14 Touko 20251h 5min

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