309 - Jacob Howland - Technological Cannibalism

309 - Jacob Howland - Technological Cannibalism

I had an amazing discussion with Jacob Howland about the fundamental question of technology. We investigate from both the Biblical and ancient Greek perspectives what technology is and its effects on the human spirit.
We discuss the notion of memory and recollection, Plato’s Phaedrus, the Biblical notion of garments of skin, ChatGPT and AI, work and leisure, technology’s effects on human capabilities, paganism and idolatry, intelligence, and “the matrix”, the internet, intuition, and much more.

Jacob Howland is the Provost and Director of the Intellectual Foundations Program at UATX, commonly known as the University of Austin.
His latest book is Glaucon's Fate: History, Myth, and Character in Plato's Republic (Paul Dry Books, 2018): https://www.amazon.com/Glaucons-Fate-History-Character-Republic/dp/1589881346

Jacob Howland’s website: https://www.jacobhowland.com/
His articles on Unherd: https://unherd.com/author/jacob-howlandunherd-com/

YouTube version of this podcast: https://youtu.be/o468OtytbVQ

Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
01:02 - Intro music
01:28 - Introduction
01:59 - Different narratives about technology
04:09 - Technology from the Greek perspective
05:01 - Plato's Phaedra - and fixing words
08:16 - Egypt
09:29 - Suppressing recollection
11:13 - The garments of skin
15:02 - Work - sorting chaos
18:17 - Human capabilities diminishing
19:53 - ChatGPT cannibalizes itself
22:06 - A pagan god that feeds on humans
23:52 - Human batteries
26:03 - Intuition - direct access to reality
28:49 - What do we mean by intelligence?
30:47 - Understand AI as idolatry
32:19 - The gold of the golden calf
34:53 - The tabernacle
35:33 - A body of power
37:39 - card: Beasts in Revelation
39:16 - Work and leisure
47:45 - Monastic life and leisure
49:18 - Not anti-technology
50:54 - The Henry Adams curve
56:56 - The Beast kills the whore
1:00:17 - Plato's cave
1:01:19 - There is no "solution"
1:03:24 - Prometheus’ cycle of desire
1:05:58 - The flip side of all of this
1:10:15 - Paradise Lost
1:11:09 - The need for transcendence
1:12:26 - Re-engage at the human scale

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153 - Sir Gawain and The Green Knight - Part 1

153 - Sir Gawain and The Green Knight - Part 1

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau We explore the symbolic structure of the first part of the the story of Sir Gawain and the Green Knight as he encounters the Knight. We look at the cosmological and ontological structure set up as Sir Gawain accepts to make an impossible promise. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg5RDZ7mMKo My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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152 - February Q&A

152 - February Q&A

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau February Q&A Original Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j92Dgix8-dw My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

2 Huhti 20212h 11min

151 - Neil DeGraide - Can Artists Predict the Future?

151 - Neil DeGraide - Can Artists Predict the Future?

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Neil De Graide is a musician, composer and singer for Dirt Poor Robins. We discuss how artists can sometimes intuit what will happen and manifest that in their work. Dirt Poor Robins Website https://www.dirtpoorrobins.com/ Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=yccw1Jv2s9U My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

27 Maalis 202156min

150 - Dr. Paula Boddington - How AI Is Reshaping Humanity

150 - Dr. Paula Boddington - How AI Is Reshaping Humanity

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Dr Boddington is the author of "Towards a Code of Ethics for Artificial Intelligence". She is currently a Senior Lecturer at the New College of the Humanities and has held academic positions at the University of Bristol, the Australian National University, Cardiff University, and Oxford University. She has received research awards from the Future of Life Institute, the National Institute of Health Research, and the Wellcome Trust. We discuss the ethical dilemmas of AI as well as the narratives which it engenders. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=jti77KQKYuc My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

22 Maalis 20211h 10min

149 - John Heers - Old World vs New World

149 - John Heers - Old World vs New World

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau This is an episode of the WAWTAR (why are we talking about rabbits) podcast where we look at the difference between the Old World and New World and why that is relevant today. https://first-things.org/podcast Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa_7QIEMJPg My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

17 Maalis 202156min

148 - Mark Doerksen - St. Margaret the Dragon Slayer

148 - Mark Doerksen - St. Margaret the Dragon Slayer

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau For a literature class at Saskatoon University, I discuss St-Margaret (Marina) of Antioch with Mark Doerksen. We discuss St-Margaret's surprising story of being swallowed by a dragon and piercing it to escape. We examine how this is related to the feminine hero and the role of martyrs as examples for Christians. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhqAdco3zFU My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

12 Maalis 202156min

147 - The Dark Knight - How to Be a Hero in an Upside Down World

147 - The Dark Knight - How to Be a Hero in an Upside Down World

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau We look at how Batman in The Dark Knight shows us how to be a hero in an upside down world in the scene where kidnappers dress up their victims as perpetrators. We compare this story to Christ turning the tables over in the Temple to chase away the money changers. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tCdjA6aknQ My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

7 Maalis 202113min

146 - JF Martel - The Weird and the Sacred

146 - JF Martel - The Weird and the Sacred

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau JF Martel is a filmmaker, an author, a cultural commentator and the co-host of a podcast called Weird Studies. My strange doppelganger, JF and I discuss art, stories and the relationship with the weird and the sacred. You can find JF's content from his website: http://www.reclaimingart.com/ Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvlmDhltTAU My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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