309 - Jacob Howland - Technological Cannibalism

309 - Jacob Howland - Technological Cannibalism

I had an amazing discussion with Jacob Howland about the fundamental question of technology. We investigate from both the Biblical and ancient Greek perspectives what technology is and its effects on the human spirit.
We discuss the notion of memory and recollection, Plato’s Phaedrus, the Biblical notion of garments of skin, ChatGPT and AI, work and leisure, technology’s effects on human capabilities, paganism and idolatry, intelligence, and “the matrix”, the internet, intuition, and much more.

Jacob Howland is the Provost and Director of the Intellectual Foundations Program at UATX, commonly known as the University of Austin.
His latest book is Glaucon's Fate: History, Myth, and Character in Plato's Republic (Paul Dry Books, 2018): https://www.amazon.com/Glaucons-Fate-History-Character-Republic/dp/1589881346

Jacob Howland’s website: https://www.jacobhowland.com/
His articles on Unherd: https://unherd.com/author/jacob-howlandunherd-com/

YouTube version of this podcast: https://youtu.be/o468OtytbVQ

Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
01:02 - Intro music
01:28 - Introduction
01:59 - Different narratives about technology
04:09 - Technology from the Greek perspective
05:01 - Plato's Phaedra - and fixing words
08:16 - Egypt
09:29 - Suppressing recollection
11:13 - The garments of skin
15:02 - Work - sorting chaos
18:17 - Human capabilities diminishing
19:53 - ChatGPT cannibalizes itself
22:06 - A pagan god that feeds on humans
23:52 - Human batteries
26:03 - Intuition - direct access to reality
28:49 - What do we mean by intelligence?
30:47 - Understand AI as idolatry
32:19 - The gold of the golden calf
34:53 - The tabernacle
35:33 - A body of power
37:39 - card: Beasts in Revelation
39:16 - Work and leisure
47:45 - Monastic life and leisure
49:18 - Not anti-technology
50:54 - The Henry Adams curve
56:56 - The Beast kills the whore
1:00:17 - Plato's cave
1:01:19 - There is no "solution"
1:03:24 - Prometheus’ cycle of desire
1:05:58 - The flip side of all of this
1:10:15 - Paradise Lost
1:11:09 - The need for transcendence
1:12:26 - Re-engage at the human scale

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145 - January Q&A

145 - January Q&A

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144 - Fr. John Strickland - History of the West in View of the East

144 - Fr. John Strickland - History of the West in View of the East

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Fr. John Strickland is a parish priest who is also the author of a series on the the history of Christianity from the point of view of the relationship between the East and the West. We explore the shift in culture produced in the West which can be traced all the way to the court of Charlemagne, and how this shift grows in the Renaissance to give us the modern age and its fragmentation. https://www.ancientfaith.com/contributors/john_strickland Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y2XNfUNeTo My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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143 - The Blindness of "Following the Science"

143 - The Blindness of "Following the Science"

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Many Public figures have been using the phrase "follow the science" in the recent crisis. Such phrases ignore how science is a tool and does not offer any way of discerning a goal towards which we should follow science. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNKn5d_yUrg My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

20 Helmi 202113min

142 - Matt Fradd - Icons vs Porn

142 - Matt Fradd - Icons vs Porn

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Matt Fradd from Pints with Aquinas and I get to know each other and we discuss iconography, religious art, nudity, pornography and how Christianity has found solutions to these questions. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN771heEs4U My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

15 Helmi 20211h 16min

141 - December Q&A

141 - December Q&A

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140 - Paul Vanderklay - The Future of Online Discussions on Meaning

140 - Paul Vanderklay - The Future of Online Discussions on Meaning

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Paul Vanderklay and I discuss the future of online discussions on meaning, where we are going and how we can bear fruits in the real world. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knkx5sMK4D8 My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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139 - Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer as Modern Mythmaking

139 - Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer as Modern Mythmaking

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau We look at the story of Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer and how it can show us a glimpse of how stories take up ma mythical space. This video was my December 2019 patron only video. Original Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z87XnoXrjo My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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138 - Guy Sengstock - Being, Intelligibility and God

138 - Guy Sengstock - Being, Intelligibility and God

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Guy Sengstock is a thinker involved with John Vervaeke and the circling movement. We discuss the experience of the world, its intelligibility and how it points to God. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VBL4Jr_290 My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

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