359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?
The Symbolic World19 Syys 2024

359 - John Vervaeke and Jordan Hall - Why Christianity?

This conversation is in part John Vervaeke's response to my previous video with Jordan Hall (The End of Strategy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnR2PYtLLnI) where we discussed Jordan's recent conversion to Christianity. John fires up some questions, and we discuss different aspects of sensemaking and religious structures to answer the question: Why Christianity?

Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/Vp_08T0Ucik

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Timestamps:
00:00 - Coming up
01:42 - Intro music
02:07 - Introduction
05:07 - John's pov on Jonathan and Jordan's conversation
08:49 - Why Christian faith?
15:38 - Jordan's answer: the Ultimate Map
18:27 - The current dialogos
21:10 - Jonathan: The Christian Escatological map
25:52 - Jordan: Relationship to Jesus
32:20 - Grief and the qualities of love
37:40 - Jonathan: Particularity beyond duality
41:43 - Jordan: A deeper capacity to suffer
44:49 - John: Being is good / Not escape
46:54 - Jonathan: Theosis
49:25 - What if this is a crypto-egoism?
55:26 - Is this the grounding of your Christian faith?
01:01:29 - Zen: Does the infinite love you?
01:11:39 - Intimacy
01:22:18 - We can't be meta
01:27:47 - Universalism
01:29:01 - We each have our callings
01:30:21 - John and Christianity

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My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson.

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64 - Matthew Miller - Logos Made Flesh

64 - Matthew Miller - Logos Made Flesh

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Matthew Miller runs the blog and youtube channel Logos Made Flesh where he does symbolic interpretations of movies and looks at structures in the biblical narrative. We discuss his own discovery of symbolism and some of his insights into symbolic patterns. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fz3B3OGPhIw My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

12 Loka 20191h 5min

63 - Interview for "Better Left Unsaid" Documentary

63 - Interview for "Better Left Unsaid" Documentary

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau This far-reaching interview was done by Curt Jaimungal who is preparing a documentary, Better Left Unsaid, exploring when the political left goes too far. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNpUKrZK2kw My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

9 Loka 20192h 11min

62 - Time

62 - Time

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau The modern world is characterized by a strange mix of change and extreme solidity through the nation state, scientific taxonomy and the never forgeting internet. I look at how delimited space and categories tends to fix and prevent change in the world. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcJu3lMNJ5w As technology develops, we have all notice time speeding up in our experience. As time accelerates, it is also beginning to eliminate the natural relationships of space, of distance and reducing our capacity to exist in stable identities. Diseases like ADHD, fragmented families and the breakdown of hierarchies in general are symptoms of a mode of being which goes with the acceleration of time. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX-BEZTvul4 My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

5 Loka 201934min

61 - The Thrill of Death

61 - The Thrill of Death

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau I look at the symbolism of death based on my recent events surrounding me and examine the strange thrill which comes when being faced with death. I also discuss that time I met the punk band Sum 41 in a Congolese war zone. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=raUh5LcTH1g My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

2 Loka 201926min

60 - Merlin's Last Laugh

60 - Merlin's Last Laugh

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau As a complement to my Clown World video, I will look at a traditional story in which the wizard Merlin appears as a hysterically laughing wildman who restores the world by his laughter. This is found in The Romance of Silence, a thirteenth century Arthurian Romance which has come to prominence in recent times. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1nzp03Uzpg My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ (official) www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ (unofficial) twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

28 Syys 201922min

59 - The Metaphysics of Clown World

59 - The Metaphysics of Clown World

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Along with a new Clown Pepe, the Clown World meme has taken on quite a bit of steam in the past few weeks. In this video I explain the meaning of Carnival, or the Circus, inversion festivals and of course the meaning of clowns. Matthieu Pageau’s book, “The Language of Creation”: https://amzn.to/2GG3HaV Original Video: https://youtu.be/MzEwaUCw9Bo My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ (official) www.facebook.com/groups/1989208418065298/ (unofficial) twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

25 Syys 201934min

58 - Stop Being Silly

58 - Stop Being Silly

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau In the wake of many attacks on Jordan Peterson, I look at the danger of reducing symbolic structures to their historical association with groups, schools of thinking and occult personalities. Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKdgDnrSy3o My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

21 Syys 201919min

57 - Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick - JRR Tolkien and The Applicability of Stories

57 - Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick - JRR Tolkien and The Applicability of Stories

Support this channel: thesymbolicworld.com/support/ patreon: www.patreon.com/pageauvideos subscribestar: www.subscribestar.com/jonathan-pageau paypal: www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau Fr. Andrew Stephen Damick is a priest, an author, a podcaster and avid fan of JRR tolkien. Having recently started a Tolkien themed podcast named Amon Sul with Ancient Faith, Fr. Andrew and I discuss stories, liturgy and what it means to be at the threshold of the sacred. You can find all things Fr. Andrew at Ancient Faith: https://www.ancientfaith.com/contributors/andrew_stephen_damick Original Video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcQShPpbEgc My links: website: www.thesymbolicworld.com facebook: www.facebook.com/TheSymbolicWorld/ twitter: twitter.com/pageaujonathan The podcast was edited by Justin Ward.

18 Syys 201947min

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