Ep. 243 - Shawn Stevenson: The ONLY Health Podcast You'll Ever Need to Hear

I want to be a Jedi Knight. The idea of surrendering to some "force" greater than oneself. The idea of being in touch with some essence that can bring out my full potential in way that I could never possibly understand. When Cass Sunstein, genius economist (author of "Nudge", 40 other books, does Nobel-prize level research) wrote "The World According to Star Wars", I knew I had to talk to him. I reached out to everyone I knew, found a way to get ahold of Cass, who wasn't doing any interviews on the book, and managed to book some  time with him. I've written many times before about the effect Star Wars has had on my life. But I was also interested in the phenomenon of Star Wars, a topic Cass writes about. In particular, why was it a hit? George Lucas is the living breathing manifestation of "idea sex". He takes concepts that worked in the past, meshes them together, and knows the combination will work. For example: think of a blonde-haired young man who has to reluctantly save the world from an evil galactic empire, uses laser powered swords and blasters, and meets a beautiful princess along the way. If you think "Flash Gordon" you'd be right. What you might not know is that George Lucas tried to buy the rights to the old TV serial "Flash Gordon". He wanted to make the movie. He was rejected so he made Star Wars. Or you might think Joseph's Campbell's "The Hero With a Thousand Faces", which George Lucas studied religiously before writing the script to Star Wars. Or you might think...any of a dozen influences George Lucas had and meshed together. His idea: to take the familiar, provide his own twists, and release. If the old influences were hits and he just changed one aspect (make a Western a Space Opera) there's a good chance he would have a hit. Cass Sunstein explores: what makes a hit? What makes a failure? What makes something a hit after it's been dead for years (example: Herman Melville's "Moby Dick" didn't sell at all while he was alive and is now considered one of the best-written books of all time). This is a topic I am obsessed with. Combine that with the topic of "Star Wars" and now Cass Sunstein has written a book I am obsessed with. We found a room to hide in and we spent the next hour laughing and swapping notes on the relevancy of The Force in today's world. We didn't talk economics, world history, behavioral psychology or any of the topics he is one of the best experts in the world in: We talked about what makes stories go viral. We talked about how much we enjoyed this cultural hit that changed generations. We were two kids talking about our favorite movie. ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltuchershow.com------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsiHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on social media:YouTubeTwitterFacebookLinkedIn See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

16 Helmi 201754min

My first podcast is 24 minutes long. It's just me. No guest. The topic: "Why College Is a Waste of Time." Then I did one about my book "Choose Yourself." One week later, I got 30 minutes with Robert Greene. Then an hour with Tucker Max, an hour with Gary Vaynerchuk, and an hour with AJ Jacobs. A month later I interviewed Dr. Wayne Dyer. Two months, Arianna Huffington. Six months, Mark Cuban. I didn't have an editor or a microphone. Three years later everyone has (or should do!) a podcast. It connects me with people I never thought possible. Or in AJ Jacobs' case, it connects people with family they didn't know existed. That's the theme of his new podcast, "Twice Removed." "The good news is once you realize that everyone is family, you can just choose," AJ said. "So you're not stuck. You've got the whole world to choose from." His first guest was Dan Savage, the sex columnist for "The Village Voice." In the other room, AJ had a secret guest, a relative 41 degrees removed from Dan. Along the way, AJ unravels the 41 connections. He had Dan in tears. "We're all connected," AJ said. "People have called genealogy the museum of me. We all see the world through our own lens." Here's what I learned from AJ's lens... 1. Start with X When I first started doing an interview podcast my audience size was X. Then I improved the quality and my downloads went to 3X.  In the case of "Twice Removed," "Start Up" and "Freakonomics" adding production makes it 10X. "For every minute that makes the air there are hours that don't," AJ said. "You can make 18 different shows using the same material." The key is to do the best with what you have today. It cost $0 to make "The James Altucher Show." And I got to do what I never dreamed possible for the first 40 years of my life. 2. Show the truth The arc of a good story starts with a problem. Luke Skywalker wanted to explore but he couldn't until his aunt and uncle were killed by stormtroopers. Bruce Wayne's parents were killed in the first few panels of Batman. You need a problem to kickstart an otherwise reluctant hero. "I love to tell my kids about my family's failures," AJ said. "Honestly, I think they think I'm total loser."   AJ told me about an Emory University study. It showed kids adjust better when they're told about their family's failures. "There's the narrative of 'We were always successful' or 'We're always losers.' Families are oscillating," AJ said. "You go through times where things are going well and times when it's total failure. Tell your kids about the struggles your family has undergone and that you emerged ok... that you survived." Give yourself permission to have an imperfect life. 3. Surprise Yourself AJ learned this from a writer at "The Daily Show." "He talked about how important it is to surprise yourself and make yourself laugh," AJ said, "which at the time I didn't really understand." So he tested it. "As you're writing, take a left turn that your brain didn't expect." He does this in "Twice Removed." And in our interview. He told me about an experiment he did with his wife. They filmed 24 hours of their day for weeks. Every argument was caught on tape. And they checked it frequently to see who was right. "It was bad either way," he said. "Because if I was wrong I looked like an idiot, but if I was right she would just get angrier." So they quit that experiment. And he started a new one: "Twice Removed." ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

14 Helmi 20171h 10min

Anna Koppelman is an angel. She's the angel I wish I had looking over me  back when I was being bullied. When I was a kid, it was "Lord of The Flies" on the playground. Nobody cared at all. Kids would kill each other at recess and whoever survived went back to class. But it's different now. Bullying is a thing. It has a voice. And there's a way out of the world of "you're not good enough" and into the world where you belong... I read an article on Facebook that was going viral:"What I know Now As a Teen With Dsylexia." Anna Koppelman wrote it. Then she kept writing. When I read the article, I thought Anna was one of those alien millennials taking over the world. But even worse, she's not a millenial. Ever since birth she's been on the Internet. She's an eleventh grader. Which makes her 17 or so. Generation Z... it's a totally different animal. Anna started a charity when she was 12 years old. At 14, she asked the Huffington Post to publish her work. They said yes. Then she wrote about dyslexia, bullying, intelligence, her crushes, her rejections, and each article felt like it was going a level deeper. Her writings were read everywhere by teens who had been through similar experiences. I wish I had this as a kid. A world where I could talk to people going through what I was going through. A way to connect to my "tribe". Or a way to reach out to people and we could all figure out we weren't alone. "I couldn't not say it," she said. "I had this feeling at school and in my life of just not being able to connect with people... I had a feeling of isolation since first grade, like there was Saran wrap between me and the rest of the world." Here's what I learned from Anna Koppelman about finding out where you belong... 1. Figure out another way When Anna's "friends" discovered she couldn't read, they laughed. "You're not smart enough to be our friend," they said. She was pushed out of the tribe. But then she learned from a moose. "I was watching the children's show, 'Arthur.' And there was this kid on there. He was a moose. He had dyslexia. So I turned to my parents and said, 'I have dyslexia.'" "How did this moose exhibit the dyslexia?" "It was all just about the same feelings that I was feeling... where he was behind in his class, but he had all these great ideas he wanted to get out but couldn't. And the feeling of being trapped because there's something in your brain that's processing differently." But she found another way. And learned how to read. But kids kept making fun of her. For the next 10 years. "I just wanted to connect with people," she said. "When I would write, I would be able to connect with people. When I would perform poetry, I would be able to connect with people." "What do you mean perform poetry?" I was confused. Because it sounded like her life was miserable at school. And instead of going to school with the eye patch and going straight home, she'd head back out to go read slam poetry in front of a dozen+ strangers. "What made you do that?" "I knew that no matter how awful school was there was a world outside of school and I just needed to find that world." 2. Use your skills Anna started out writing about her interests. People spend years writing about things outside themselves. I did too. But for years I was afraid to write about the things that really scared me, or drove me, or kept me up at night. I was afraid to write about the things that shamed me. Or I was afraid because I wondered what people would think. So I wanted to learn, what did Anna, at age 14, do differently? Start with craft. Write everyday. Use your brain. Develop your analytical muscle. Build your skills. Talent is the ignition in the car. Many people have talent. Many people never turn on the car. Many people never drive the car to get to their destination. Skills are just talent in its infancy. 3. Create from one layer deeper I asked Anna about... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

9 Helmi 201736min

Sara Blakely is weird. I wish I could think like she does. I want to be weird like her. "I look at any object and try to think of any use it has other than what people had planned for it." And then she acts on it. She sees a pair of pantyhose, cuts off the feet (why not?) and creates a multi-billion dollar company, Spanx. She sees her 9 month pregnant belly and paints a basketball on it. And then inspires hundreds of other women to do the same. Creates a book out of it: The Belly Art Project, and donates the proceeds to charity. "All my life I was taught how to deal with failure," she told me. "My dad would ask us at the dinner table every night: how did you fail today?" HOW DID YOU FAIL TODAY? She got comfortable with failure at an age when every other kid wants to get an A+ at everything. She got comfortable embarrassing herself. For two years she tried to be a standup comedian. "I wasn't very good at it." Practice embarrassing yourself... Ready. Fire. Aim. She got a huge order from Nieman Marcus even though she didn't have the inventory or the production ready. She said, "YES!". Then she figured out how to get the order filled. Oprah listed Spanx as one of her "favorite things" of 2000. Oprah wanted to film her office. Sara had no office. She said, "YES!". Then she got an office and filled it up with people. Say YES! Then make things happen. Don't argue yourself into failure. Excuses are easy. Saying "yes" and then executing is hard. Get your thinking time. "It takes me five minutes to drive to work," she told me. "But I take 45 minutes. I use that time to think." It's important to think. To be creative every day. This is how she comes up with non-stop ideas to expand her brand, expand her products, and work on other projects. I suspect this is the secret for how she always sees things differently. Being creative is a practice. It's not lightening from above. It's taking the long route when you could've taken the short route. Purpose = Infectious salesmanship. While I was talking to Sara she used the word "empower" several times. Spanx clothes gives women more confidence. Empowers women. The Belly Art Project empowers pregnant women. It seems like there are three parts to a project that leads to master salesmanship. - the higher purpose for it. This gets people excited. - the actual product and its benefits. - execution Combine all three and people will get infected with your passion for your ideas. Sara was unstoppable. Don't volley. Don't engage with the people who want to argue with you. That's time wasted when you can be creative. Don't invite ego in the door. Once you've worked on your project, have passion for it, started it, be willing to take suggestions and listen to people. Ego can kill a project and close the door on good opportunities. Be aware of you mortality. Sara was selling fax machines for five years before fully launching Spanx. She could still be selling them if she never started. If she listened to all the people who tried to dissuade her. If she became afraid of the multi-billion dollar companies that could have easily squashed her. Except they didn't. She was one person and they were billions. But they lost. We are here only this precious small amount of time. Make every moment a work of art. Make every moment move you one step forward towards your dream and purpose. Invent a new undergarment even if you had never made clothes in your life. Get 100s of women to paint their pregnant bellies and then raise money for charity with the idea. "EVERYTHING IS A CANVAS," she told me. Which makes everyone a potential artist. What a great way to look at life. But I can't! Why not? For anything you want to do, for anything that excites you, take the time to figure out the next step. Ready. Fire. Aim. Just why not? Why not? ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

7 Helmi 20171h 20min

He is exactly one year younger than me, almost to the day. So we could've even grown up together. We had similar interests in music. He could've taught me sewing. I could've taught him how to play chess.   But, to be honest, he worked harder than me. He stood on a corner and sold hats. Then he sold t-shirts. Then he would go to work at Red Lobster all night. Then back to school the next day.   I was lazy as a kid. I couldn't work so hard. Six billion dollars later, Daymond John sits atop the FUBU fashion empire and I think to myself, "He's one year younger than me."   Do you ever feel that: jealousy? Or if not jealousy, then maybe regret? Like there's so many things you could've done...if only...   The good news is, "if only" has two answers: "You didn't do it then." And..."Start today."   There's never any rush. If today is the day you can start enjoying something, start making money from it, start combining all of your interests into career that lasts one, five, ten years....then today is the day you should do it.   I've interview Daymond before. We covered a lot of his background and how he started when I interviewed him about his book, "The Power of Broke."   But on this interview I learned some new things.   1) DON'T QUIT YOUR DAY JOB.    Many people are unhappy in their jobs. I hear it every day from people. I get emails every day about it.   But you can't start a business in a second, or a month, or even a year.   Daymond worked at Red Lobster for SIX YEARS while he was getting FUBU off the ground. He didn't want to take a chance.   Why not? One might ask.   It's scary. If you leave a job for a new business and it doesn't work out, how will you pay your bills? I stayed at my job at HBO for 18 months after I started my first business before I would make the leap. I was really scared.   You don't leap until you can take away as many of the risks as possible.   2) DON'T DO THE COOL THING   While Daymond was working at Red Lobster and selling hats on the street, his friends were losing their lives selling drugs.   I was reading recently about Charlie Munger, Buffett's #2 man at Berkshire Hathaway and one of the richest men in the world.   He started a hedge fund in 1973. The worst time ever to start a fund. And, if I remember correctly (I refuse to Google), he was down 20-30% the first year. And then 20-30% the second year. And then he fought back and ended up making money for his investors.   Another man, probably in a very similar situation, was Bernie Madoff. We don't know exactly what happened but the theory is that when he was down he was too ashamed to tell anyone and turned it into a massive fraud.   Character is destiny. The choices you make today are your biography tomorrow.   Daymond refused to let the opinions of others veer him off his path. He worked hard, stuck to his uncool job while he pursued his passion. And made it work.   3) COMMUNITY   Critical to Daymond's success. Make the company more than just about you. Make it about the community. Then it has a life larger than "Daymond John." You create something people are willing to share.   How did he do this? Name - "FUBU" means "for u, by us". BAM! Friends - Daymond got his friends to wear it. Then their friends wanted to wear it. And so on. That's real marketing. Don't even think of advertising your product unless PEOPLE ARE FIRST DYING TO SHARE IT. Authority - LL Cool J grew up down the street from Daymond. Daymond didn't know him but he started pursuing him, asking him to wear a FUBU product in one of his videos. LL probably didn't even know who this kid was. But then he saw other kids wearing the clothes. And he responded to the name. So he started wearing FUBU in his videos. BAM! Shows - Daymond started going to all the Hip hop fashion conventions. The Magic convention in Las... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

1 Helmi 201756min

I heard an eight-year-old kid tell another eight-year-old that he's not welcome in his home. He said "Trump or Clinton?"   "Clinton."   And that was that. They kept walking. Kept debating and I bet nothing happened. I bet they're still friends.   Some people are either all talk or afraid.   Or both.   I try not to be either. I try to listen, come up with ideas, and be grateful. Because if I listen, I learn. And then I can say two sweet words, "thank you."   How many people said, "If Trump becomes president, I'm leaving the country." Or the other way around?   There's only one reason why I'd ever even consider packing. And Bobby Casey spelled it out for me.   "Americans don't understand how insanely expensive it is to live in the U.S.," Bobby said on my podcast.  He sold everything he owned and left the country in 2009. Right after the market crashed. Now he works all over the world. And helps people get off the grid.   I wanted to know how he did it.   And why...   "I hated my customers," he said. "I hated my employees, I hated my job, I hated my business."   "But what made you think you could sell all your belonging and travel the world forever?"   "Weren't you scared you would run out of money?"   "I just knew I'd work it out," he said. "I'd make some money."   I couldn't do it. It's easy to be uncertain when you're level of unknown isn't going to erupt your central nervous system.   But Bobby had motivation.   "My happiness and my quality of life is much more important than cashing out on a business," he said. "I didn't care. I wanted to be happy again."   So he got rid of everything. He gave away motorcycles. (He had 27). Then he bought two one-way tickets to Prague. One for him. And one for his 9 year old son.   "We'd never been there."   The rest of his family moved a few weeks later. He has three kids.   "What about friends? And school?" I asked.   "My daughter, she's 20, she's a rapper in London. She did two years of virtual school. And she can make friends anywhere. It's her personality type." His other two kids enrolled with locals.   I had 100 questions. "How'd you get the confidence? What type of freelance work did you do?" "How did you make ends meet?"   He broke it down for me. And told me all the ways he saves money living abroad.   "I did the math on this," he said. "You won't believe this, but I pay $42 a year for a 10,000 euro deductible health insurance plan."   Anything after 10,000 euros, he's covered. "I could get airlifted to John Hopkins if I wanted and that would be covered."   "You can make about $150,000, tax-free, as an American living abroad." Here's how Bobby explains it on the podcast...   If you make $100K (gross) in the U.S, then you're probably netting less than $60K. Abroad, you can make the same $60K (net), live tax-free (if you qualify for the "foreign earned income exclusion"), get a housing allowance, pay $42 a year for health insurance, and basically never feel broke again.   I was getting depressed. Because I know I'm not going to move. It's part of being human. Everyone I look up to, Scott Adams, Dan Ariely, Nassim Taleb, they all say the same thing: people are irrational creatures. Even the idea that we're being rational, is irrational.   Every time Bobby spoke, I had 10 new questions.   I thought I'd never understand. But then he gave me his secret. And it answered all my questions.   It was so simple. I couldn't believe it.   Bobby and his son were walking around Estonia. They left Prague, bought a house and had no plans.   Someone overheard them speaking English.   "You're American?"   They started talking. "What are you planning to do for your kids for school?"   Bobby had no idea.   "I have a son who's your son's age. We found a really good school up the hill. There's a meeting tonight for foreigners who want to enroll their kids."   That was it. Then Bobby told me his secret..."I... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

26 Tammi 201751min

Social media is a bloodbath.   Trump. Hilary. Walls. Genitals. Crooked this or Deplorable that.   There's two things I know:   1)  I choose whether I am happy with a situation or not. Whether I am "free" or not. Nobody else can choose that for me unless I give them permission.   If a situation (call it X) happens that I don't like, I ask myself: is the world better with X and me in it. Or with X and "no me".   All I can do is have impact on the people around me. And if it's worthwhile impact, if it's the sort of impact that helps people and creates positive change, then those people around me will share it with the people around them.   That's how things get done. That's how one "votes" with their life every single day. No excuse.   2) I'm not the smartest person in the room.   If a situation happens that I don't understand, I don't pretend to understand it. I don't go ahead and act like I understand it.   I have no clue.   So I ask the smartest person in the room. I ask the people who know more than me. I ask people I respect who might have opposing views.   The world has many opposing views. And I admit that I don't understand all the facts. I ask people who have more facts than me. Who have studied more than me.   Do I automatically agree with them? It doesn't matter. They feed my brain. I know they will because I already trust them to think carefully about an issue and I trust their years of experience.   Then I think. Then I decide.   Does it change what I do?   No.   I do what I do. I try to keep having impact in the way that I know best. I want to be a free person. This doesn't mean rich. Which often entangles me too much in the addiction of having more and more.   Nor does it mean have everyone love me. Because that is also is something outside of me that is out of my control.   Freedom means I can make choices. Freedom means I can make as many choices as possible to live the life I want to live.   I wanted to learn more about what a Donald Trump presidency might mean. There is so much blood shed trying to force me to have one opinion or the other, I decided to call one of the smartest people I know.   Ken Kurson shed some light for me on things that were confusing me. Do I have to agree with everything? No. I am free not to.   But I learned. Which is always the best thing I can do.     ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltuchershow.com------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsiHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on social media:YouTubeTwitterFacebookLinkedIn See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

24 Tammi 201759min

"We all lived through it. But one fun or interesting realizations I came to in reporting the book was... Can we curse on your podcast?"   "Yeah. Anything goes."   "... Is just how much shit happened in the world between 1999 and 2015."   Chris Smith is the author of The New York Times bestseller, "The Daily Show (The Book): An Oral History as Told by Jon Stewart, the Correspondents, Staff and Guests."   He interviewed 144 people, including the host Jon Stewart, Craig Kilborn, Steve Carell, Stephen Colbert, Samantha Bee and so many other people.   "You know, Jon Stewart's a guy who had an upper-middle-ish class upbringing in New Jersey, went to William and Mary, came into comedy sideways. He wasn't sure exactly what he was going to do after college."   I needed to know how Jon Stewart did it. How he redefined Late Night. How he broke out and rose to the top of comedy. And how he used humor to disrupt it all - mainstream media, mainstream politics, the news.   "He would wear the same thing in the office everyday: a pair of work boots, a pair of chinos, the same t-shirt, the same Mets hat. And well, they'd rag on him about being a slob. There was-and not to get cheaply psychological-something Jon was communicating... He was simplifying a lot of the extraneous stuff and getting to work."   Here's what I learned from Chris Smith about comedy, change and the combination that changed the world:   1) Ask the right questions Jon showed up every day and asked, "What was in the news? What's funny about it? What's our point of view?"   Everyday, I ask, "Who can I help today?" It keeps me open to the day. It gives me a fresh perspective. That's part of reinvention.   Always looking. Always starting over. Always asking, "What's missing here?" And then filling that gap.   2)  Change the format Jon did a "Bush vs. Bush" segment.   First you see a clip of Governor Bush talking about Iraq and saying, "We're not here to nation-build." Then you see Bush as president saying the complete opposite. "We're going to nation-build in Iraq."   Jon didn't point out the hypocrisy. He could've. But that wouldn't have been funny.   Instead, he played dumb. He pretended he didn't know it was the same person contradicting himself.   That's what made it funny.   He removed knowledge from the situation. And got the attention of millions. Eventually, making real change. They even had an effect on some big issues.   "They made an eight or nine-minute mock detective movie. They took one veteran and tried to trace his paperwork through the Veterans Administration. They kept running into ridiculous roadblocks, but it was also moving. It gave you a sense of how much this guy was going through to get medical care," Chris said. "That ended up shaming the Veterans Administration and changing a lot of those rules and regulations."   He also transformed media.   "Loosely," Chris says.   But, in old media you couldn't find the truth like you can today. It would take weeks of research. Now with the Internet you can search and find anything. And turn it around in 24 hours.   Chris talked to Anderson Cooper. He said the mainstream media world was always aware of "The Daily Show." They didn't want to get made fun...   "And, inevitably, you did."   3) Ignore the traps "You've got, in many cases, a lot of ambitious, competitive, eccentric people," he said. "You put them in a room and give them a deadline and that can lead to a lot of clashes." But Jon didn't get stuck in the trappings of show business.   Which is easy to do in any career.     But if you use your idea of how things could be to fuel creation, you get a leg up.   You get "The Daily Show."   4) Live in two worlds "What about when you were writing the book? Did you ever wish you were them? Did you ever feel like, 'I'm covering them, but I want to be them'?"   I knew my answer. And Chris's answer was more or less the same.... See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

19 Tammi 20171h 29min