126.  Why Did Tolkien Change The Hobbit (and what did he change)? : The Hobbit #15
Exploring Tolkien17 Joulu 2024

126. Why Did Tolkien Change The Hobbit (and what did he change)? : The Hobbit #15

Once Tolkien finished writing The Lord of the Rings, it became clear to him that The Hobbit needed to change–particularly Bilbo and Gollum’s interaction in chapter 5, “Riddles in the Dark”. But what exactly did he change? How necessary was it? Did it make The Hobbit Better?

If you haven’t read the original chapter, you can download a PDF here!

Be sure to check out our side-by-side comparison, to easily spot the differences between the original and rewritten chapter.

This week we look at:

  • Why Tolkien though the tone and style of The Hobbit was a mistake.
  • How Tolkien ret-conned The Lord of the Rings into The Hobbit – right in the prologue!
  • Tolkien’s original depiction of Gandalf explaining Bilbo’s lies to Frodo (found in Peoples of Middle-earth).
  • How Tolkien changed the Ring into a character.
  • How Tolkien changed Gollum into a villain.
  • How Tolkien even made the orcs more sinister.

In our extended episode (available for our members) we talk about:

  • How Tolkien should really ever be the only person to write more Middle-earth stories.
  • Screenwriter Phillipa Boyen’s comments on The War of the Rohirrim movie and how the untold story is the most “compelling” story.
  • How her story can’t “ruin Tolkien”.
  • A few thoughts on the upcoming Chronicles of Narnia Netflix series.

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11. The Road to Hell – Of the Silmarils – The Silmarillion – 8

11. The Road to Hell – Of the Silmarils – The Silmarillion – 8

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10. Fire and Greed – Of Fëanor and the Unchaining of Melkor – The Silmarillion – 7

10. Fire and Greed – Of Fëanor and the Unchaining of Melkor – The Silmarillion – 7

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9. Love Makes You do Stupid Things – Of Thingol & Melian / Of Eldamar – The Silmarillion – 6

Dan gets TWO big thoughts this week as we review both Of Thingol and Melian, and Of Eldamar and the coming of the Eldaliē.  He realizes that love can make you do stupid things–like gaze into each others’ eyes for 100 years… and he says what we’re all thinking in the 2nd chapter–what in the world is going on! And for good measure, Michael refers to  his great elven diagram diagram (linked below too) again. Tolkien Resources Get The Silmarillion Get The Atlas of Middle-earth Get The Silmarillion audio book for FREE! Just become an Audible Premium Plus member, get your first month (and book credit free), use that credit to get The Silmarillion, and then cancel before your first month is up!

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8. An Analysis of The Rings of Power Trailer

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Independence Day Break

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6. Of Aulë and Yavanna – The Silmarillion – 4

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