Episode 372: 383. What is the GFR at which we stop metforin?

Episode 372: 383. What is the GFR at which we stop metforin?

Metformin while not necessarily first line therapy for diabetes depending on the patients co-morbid conditions it is certainly highly ranked on the list of medications!

I know often metformin is stopped while coming into the hospital for fear of potentially lactic acidosis or an increase in AKI with contrast studies however this ‘belief’ is largely based on myth and misconception. Metformin's contraindications should be contraindicated - PMC

I also know that often metformin is held at discharge if the patients GFR is near or around 30

However, two new studies.

Stopping Versus Continuing Metformin in Patients With Advanced CKD: A Nationwide Scottish Target Trial Emulation Study - ClinicalKey

4,278 Scottish residents with a diagnosis of type 2 diabetes were identified as prevalent metformin users with incident CKD stage 4. (it was stopped when they reached CKD 5)

Results:

Compared with continuing metformin, stopping metformin was associated with a lower 3-year survival (63.7% [95% CI, 60.9-66.6] vs 70.5% [95% CI, 68.0-73.0]; HR, 1.26 [95% CI, 1.10-1.44]) (THAT WOULD BE ROUGHLY A NNT OF 14)

Interestingly the thing we think metformin prevents (MACE) was the same in both groups (HR, 1.05 [95% CI, 0.88-1.26]).

Could it be possible that metformin saves your life on some other mechanism that we don’t totally understand??

Discontinuing metformin was associated with a higher risk of death from respiratory diseases (HR, 1.51 [95% CI, 1.06-2.12]) MAYBE THAT IS THE SECRET!?

Trial 2

Clinical outcomes following discontinuation of metformin in patients with type 2 diabetes and advanced chronic kidney disease in Hong Kong: a territory-wide, retrospective cohort and target trial emulation study - ScienceDirect

33,586 metformin users with new-onset eGFR < 30 ml/min/1.73 m2 were included in the study and 7500 (22.3%) of whom discontinued metformin within 6 months whereas 26,086 (77.7%) continued use of metformin. They were followed for a median duration of 3.8 (IQR: 2.2–6.1) years,

This time, those in which metformin was discontinued had higher risk of MACE (weighted and adjusted HR = 1.40, 95% CI: 1.29–1.52),

AND once again if you stopped the metformin you had a higher incidence of death (HR = 1.22, 1.18–1.27).

BUT get this, if you stopped the metformin you had higher rates of progression to END STAGE KIDNEY DISEASE (HR = 1.52, 1.42–1.62)!!!

Yes, stopping metformin was associated with all the badness of the heart and kidneys

PS- no association observed for the risk of lactic acidosis (still)

Obviously, these are both observational studies so there could be unaccounted for confounders that can only truly be ruled out with an RCT. Now that metformin is $4 a month at Walmart and the new fancy diabetic drugs are $20-$40 per day it is very unlikely we will see the proper drug company run trial anytime in the near future. However it does seem possible and even reasonable we continue metformin even at smaller doses (500mg daily or 500mg BID) may actually decrease the one thing we are all trying to fight against…..death

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Episode 407: 415. Do Air Filters Lower Blood Pressure?

Episode 407: 415. Do Air Filters Lower Blood Pressure?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40767818/This is a great example for students and residents to look and see that the abstract does not always match what the paper actually says

12 Marras 20259min

Episode 406: 414. Resistant Hypertension, Physical Therapy, Steroids for Pneumonia

Episode 406: 414. Resistant Hypertension, Physical Therapy, Steroids for Pneumonia

Efficacy and safety of Baxdrostat in uncontrolled and resistant hypertension compared to placebo in phase three when there are MRA available that are cheap and availableA randomised trial of physical ...

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Episode 405: 413. 4 Articles to Scare You-- COPD, Cirrhosis, ETOH, and Ablation

Episode 405: 413. 4 Articles to Scare You-- COPD, Cirrhosis, ETOH, and Ablation

gabapentin may increase COPD exacerbationsBenzo for ETOH might be long gone..guess what is going to replace itAnticoagulation after ablation.... what do you do with it?BBlocker in those with cirrhosis...

31 Loka 202518min

Episode 404: 412. Liver Transplant - The One Referral I Doubt You Are Doing Correctly

Episode 404: 412. Liver Transplant - The One Referral I Doubt You Are Doing Correctly

Clinicians should refer patients for liver transplant evaluation after any decompensation event—such as ascites or variceal bleeding—regardless of MELD score. After a first decompensation, 5-year mort...

24 Loka 20257min

Episode 403: 411. Gabapentin and Emergency Carotid Artery Stenting in Stroke

Episode 403: 411. Gabapentin and Emergency Carotid Artery Stenting in Stroke

Study Summary: Emergent Carotid Stenting in Acute Stroke ThrombectomyA multicenter registry study in Catalonia (2017–2023) evaluated outcomes in 578 patients with acute ischemic stroke and tandem lesi...

22 Loka 202510min

Episode 402: 410. When You Shouldn't Double Down But Instead Hit for Another

Episode 402: 410. When You Shouldn't Double Down But Instead Hit for Another

This massive meta-analysis of 484 randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled trials (104,176 participants) quantified the blood pressure–lowering effects of major antihypertensive drug classes and t...

16 Loka 20258min

Episode 401: 409. The Effects of Upper Extremity and Lower Extremity Aerobic Exercise Training in Patients with Peripheral Arterial Disease:

Episode 401: 409. The Effects of Upper Extremity and Lower Extremity Aerobic Exercise Training in Patients with Peripheral Arterial Disease:

Practice Pearls: “Skip Leg Day” (Sometimes)For PAD patients who can’t tolerate leg workouts, upper body aerobic training is a strong, evidence-backed alternative. It’s not just a workaround—it’s a wor...

14 Loka 20257min

Episode 400: 408. CME Obesity and MASH

Episode 400: 408. CME Obesity and MASH

GLP1 drugs work but they likely need lifestyle modificationsNo convincing evidence GLP1 cause thyroid cancer in humans BUT contraindication if family history existStopping therapy usually results in w...

27 Syys 20251h 2min

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