#472 - Why You’re Losing Deals by Not Picking Up the Phone | Michelle Cecil

#472 - Why You’re Losing Deals by Not Picking Up the Phone | Michelle Cecil

Getting your buyer live on the phone isn’t old school—it’s elite. In this episode, Michelle Cecil, two-time President’s Club winner at Procore, shares how dialing instead of emailing builds trust, collapses timelines, and puts you back in control of your deals. Her approach proves that the phone isn’t dead—it’s your most underused weapon. 🎙 ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS: Don’t negotiate over email — Use a “carrot on a stick” to earn a callback, then close the gap in live conversation where nuance and urgency can thrive. Own the reference process — Prep your prospect and your customer, set the agenda, and run the call. You are the producer—don’t outsource the close. Call before big demos — Reach out to every stakeholder with a simple message: “I want this meeting to be worth your time.” You’ll get more replies than you think. JUST DO THIS: Pick one deal in your pipeline. Find a reason to call your champion today—and do it. MICHELLE’S PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB: Commercial AE: 2X President’s Club winner with 11 consecutive fully ramped quarters at or above quota from day one as an AE. AE to Commercial Manager: Promoted 5 times internally from SDR to Enterprise AE to Manager demonstrating consistent growth, adaptability, and long-term impact. Commercial AE: In 8+ years, missed only 2 quarterly numbers RESOURCES DISCUSSED: Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides JOB LISTINGS Account Executive (Sponsorships) Account Executive (Courses) Content Strategist

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#127 - Uncovering the buying process with your customer (Marisa Sarabia, Principal Account Executive @ Dialpad)

#127 - Uncovering the buying process with your customer (Marisa Sarabia, Principal Account Executive @ Dialpad)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Rank your buyer’s priorities in the first meeting so you know what to spend the majority of time on in the future. Give pricing early and pivot based on reactions. If you end up giving concessions, always add an expiration date. Stay engaged while your SE is demoing. It’s on you to keep the call on track. Use the Zoom gallery view to identify unengaged participants - ask them easy questions to keep them interested. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Principal Account Executive @ Dialpad Account Executive @ Invoca SDR @ Velocify (acquired by Ellie Mae) RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

31 Elo 202234min

#126 - Creating close plans for every step of the sales process (Jeremey Donovan, EVP, Sales & Customer Success, Insight Partners)

#126 - Creating close plans for every step of the sales process (Jeremey Donovan, EVP, Sales & Customer Success, Insight Partners)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Use a customer-facing close plan to map out the key steps (power, security, legal) in your sales cycle. Review the key steps of your plan live in EVERY call rather than just sending it once through email. Make a coach / champion determination by asking about past purchasing experience. Send the blank connect request on LinkedIn when mass prospecting - skip the “fake” tailoring. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB EVP, Sales & Customer Success @ Insight Partners SVP, Revenue Strategy @ Salesloft Head of Sales Strategy & Enablement @ CB Insights SVP & Head of Sales Strategy @ GLG RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

24 Elo 202229min

#125 - Playbook: Everything prospecting that isn't email or phone

#125 - Playbook: Everything prospecting that isn't email or phone

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Create an event-specific sequence for expos/tradeshows w/ the CTA being “open to stopping by the booth?”. Use highly tailored gifting for your top-tier accounts instead of just sending out dozens of Starbucks gift cards. Seek out referrals by finding tangential partners to trade leads with. Don't treat LinkedIn like email: use connects, content engagement, and DM's strategically. RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

17 Elo 202236min

#124 - Leveling with your buyer and setting clear expectations using PPO (Doug Landis, Growth Partner @ Emergence Capital)

#124 - Leveling with your buyer and setting clear expectations using PPO (Doug Landis, Growth Partner @ Emergence Capital)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Don’t just set an agenda. Use PPO (purpose, plan, outcome) to set clear expectations for you and your prospect. Avoid deep-diving into features until you've established “why change?” and “why now?”. Show up to your discovery with a theory about their pains and your solutions. Don’t just start peppering questions. Soften the CTA with “would you be open to” instead of heavier asks before the customer is ready to dive deep. RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

10 Elo 202232min

#123 - Prospecting into your customer's new company (Todd Busler, Co-founder & CEO @ Champify)

#123 - Prospecting into your customer's new company (Todd Busler, Co-founder & CEO @ Champify)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Stay top of mind with your closed/lost opps with introductions, referrals, and nuggets (don't be another email marketer). Re-engage former customers at new companies by proposing how your product fits them in their new role/company. Leverage team selling to stay multithreaded in an account instead of restarting a sales cycle when you lose a champion. Get a new champion by finding the next biggest fan and ramping them with condensed steps that you've already taken in the deal. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Co-founder & CEO @ Champify VP, Sales @ Heap Account Executive @ Square Sales Engineer @ SAP RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

3 Elo 202230min

#122 - Managing expansion sales and executive teams (Evan Cassidy, Sr. Director, Mid-Market & Growth Expansion Sales @ Drift)

#122 - Managing expansion sales and executive teams (Evan Cassidy, Sr. Director, Mid-Market & Growth Expansion Sales @ Drift)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Get ahead of every executive conversation by first prepping with a champion pre-call. Use Slack channels for champion collaboration and driving deals to close. Before going into an executive demo, make sure the priorities you collected from discovery are aligned with the executive's. Always create a work-back plan linked to date-of-value so deals don't stall when entering legal, security, etc. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Sr. Director, Mid-Market & Growth Expansion Sales @ Drift Manager, Sales Development @ Dropbox Account Executive @ Yelp RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

27 Heinä 202227min

#121 - Architecting the buyer’s journey (Kyle Asay, VP of Sales @ Qualtrics)

#121 - Architecting the buyer’s journey (Kyle Asay, VP of Sales @ Qualtrics)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS When you’re asking questions don’t just ask the question. Say, “the reason I’m asking is because (insert problem). Go into a discovery call with a hypothesis of the problem you can solve. As you prove it out, give little proof points (case studies, stories) so it’s not an interrogation. When demoing, demo 80/20. 20% of what matters most spend 80% on that. Bonus: stack your demo with what makes your product different as opposed to what everyone has. Before giving concessions or discounts, narrow the scope (number of seats, commercial terms, service term, number of years in the deal) and get everything on the table before you start giving any sort of concessions. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB VP of Sales @ Qualtrics Regional VP of Sales @ Qualtrics Director, Corporate Sales @ Qualtrics Sr. Manager, Corporate Sales @ Qualtrics RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

20 Heinä 202230min

#120 - Looking for trouble with humbling disclaimers to land your deals on the button (Charles Muhlbauer, Lead Enablement Manager @ CB Insights)

#120 - Looking for trouble with humbling disclaimers to land your deals on the button (Charles Muhlbauer, Lead Enablement Manager @ CB Insights)

Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Go back to “home plate” and re-anchor to top priorities when dealing with demo “nitpicks”. Use “To what extent” to turn any close-ended question into an open-ended question. Turn your demo into more discovery with (a) HOW does this compare? (b) WHERE does this fit in your workflow? (c) WHO would use this? Seek out hesitation. “Based on what you’ve seen today, what would prevent us from moving forward?” PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Lead Enablement Manager @ CB Insights Enterprise Account Executive @ Sentieo Sr. Account Executive & Team Lead @ Axial Sr. Associate @ Deloitte RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal

13 Heinä 202229min

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