220. Theory of Enchantment | Chloé Valdary

220. Theory of Enchantment | Chloé Valdary

As an alternative for those who would rather listen ad-free, sign up for a premium subscription to receive the following: *All JBP Podcast episodes ad-free *Monthly Ask-Me-Anything episodes (and the ability to ask questions) *Presale access to events *Premium, detailed show notes for future episodes Sign up here: https://jordanbpeterson.supercast.com This episode was recorded on September 15th, 2021. Chloé Valdary and I discuss The Theory of Enchantment, her personal brand of compassionate anti-racism. Chloé has been featured in Psychology Today and the NY Times. Her work with Theory of Enchantment attempts to bring compassion to diversity training and fight bigotry with love. We covered a range of topics surrounding her practice, structural racism in the US, the civil rights movement, the best way to criticize one another, the power of Truth, white fragility, and what one could expect from her (rather unique) diversity seminars. Find more from Chloé @cvaldary https://twitter.com/cvaldary & check out her program at https://theoryofenchantment.com -- Get started with a 10% discount at magbreakthrough.com/jbp when using promo code "jbp10." If it's not for you, there's a one-year money-back guarantee. _______________ Timestamps _______________ [00:00] Intro [00:30] Chloé’s background [01:52] Why did Chloé want to talk? [02:53] Reading Dr. Peterson’s Maps of Meaning in a lockdown [03:38] What is the goal or focus behind Valdary's work? [04:05] “Supremacist thinking occurs when a human being experiences... some type of deep insecurity within themselves" - Chloé Valdary [05:08] Jordan’s list of questions through Chloé's looking glass [05:49] Sources of racism [12:36] “There are problems money doesn't solve. It would be lovely if [that] produced full security in every aspect, but it doesn't" - Jordan Peterson [12:57] Working with corporations on DEIS [16:55] Debating the validity of lived experience [17:11] “Are you an unquestionable authority on the nature of your lived experience? The answer is yes and no" - JP [21:23] “[Race] certainly isn’t the best way to conceptualize diversity” - JP [23:46] Examining the pathos behind two great leaders in the civil rights movement: Dr. Martin Luther King & Malcolm X [27:34] Chloé’s experience as a teacher [33:06] Learning to appreciate complexity in both the individual and the diverse [36:17] “Raising everyone’s material standards… is ultimately insufficient" - JP [36:34] Seeing people as political abstractions [38:14] Alienation, diversity training, and rural America [44:28] “There are arbitrary pre-conditions to our existence that we didn't choose to deal with" - JP [48:25] How to uplift (never destructive) criticism [51:07] Variance in coping mechanisms [54:44] Everyone is starving for (words of) encouragement [57:07] Rooting everything in love and compassion. Where do those guidelines come from? [01:03:45] Wonder Woman, Power, & Truth [01:04:52] The human capacity to destroy the planet [01:09:29] I'm convinced that there is nothing more powerful than truth in the word." - JP [01:17:31] “Part of the problem in the West is this false understanding of meaning as derived from propositions when it is, in fact, participatory ways of knowing that give rise to propositions in the first place" - Chloé Valdary [01:18:48] The meaning of the word ‘enchantment’ [01:26:23] “The objective of ToE is to bring people back to this relational way of being and to be in balance with their own complexity" - Chloé Valdary [01:26:59] What Chloé does at a ToE seminar [01:32:16] “People have access to the truth… [regardless of] socioeconomic standing" - JP Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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567. Five Great Moments From Behind the Paywall

567. Five Great Moments From Behind the Paywall

Join Dr. Peterson for five standout moments from behind the DW+ paywall: Megyn Kelly reflects on motherhood, IVF, and the need for cultural matchmaking beyond Tinder; Michael Saylor makes the case for Bitcoin as decentralized economic sovereignty and outlines its political rise; Dr. Gary Nolan discusses extraterrestrial life, unprocessed UAP data, and what orbs might reveal; Douglas Murray joins Jordan to explore the theological foundations of Western civilization, Islam’s internal crisis, and the meaning of voluntary sacrifice; and Dr. Simon Baron-Cohen breaks down the complex genetic and social factors behind autism’s rising diagnoses and unique cognitive strengths. Subscribe to DailyWire+ so you don’t miss a single interview! http://dwpluspeterson.com/yt In Answer the Call, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson returns to his roots, taking real calls from real people facing life’s hardest questions. Joined by his daughter, Mikhaila Fuller, the series transforms personal struggles into public insight—offering wisdom, empathy, and clarity in the face of chaos. Coming to DailyWire+ Monday, 8/4. A new podcast series, featured within Dr. Jordan B. Peterson’s episodes on YouTube and including an exclusive member segment on DailyWire+. Have a question you’d like to ask? Share your story here: dailywire.com/answerthecall | Sponsors | Fatty15: Get an additional 15% off your 90-day subscription Starter Kit by going to https://fatty15.com/PETERSON and using code PETERSON at checkout. SelectQuote: Get the right life insurance for YOU, for LESS, and save more than 50% at https://selectquote.com/peterson Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

17 Marras 20251h 2min

572. Navigating Education, Ideology, and Children | Answer the Call

572. Navigating Education, Ideology, and Children | Answer the Call

Dr. Peterson discusses education challenges, praising homeschooling over the flawed K-12 system, exploring new learning models, and stressing critical thinking in a world dominated by low-attention span media environments. He also highlights the importance of teacher passion, character development, and guiding young adults toward responsibility and purpose. Would you like to join the show? Share a question here: dailywire.com/answerthecall (The views expressed on "Answer The Call" are presented for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes, and are not intended as medical, nutritional, or psychological advice. Viewers are strongly encouraged to consult with a qualified healthcare professional before making any decisions based on the content presented.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

17 Marras 202559min

571. Master Relationships and Improve Your Dating Life | Answer the Call

571. Master Relationships and Improve Your Dating Life | Answer the Call

Dr. Peterson answers caller questions on marriage and family, offering practical advice on how to support your spouse, navigate parenting challenges, overcome the impact of past relationships, and balance multicultural influences. His guidance helps build strong, lasting marriages grounded in patience and understanding. Would you like to join the show? Share a question here: dailywire.com/answerthecall (The views expressed on "Answer The Call" are presented for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes, and are not intended as medical, nutritional, or psychological advice. Viewers are strongly encouraged to consult with a qualified healthcare professional before making any decisions based on the content presented.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

14 Elo 202554min

570. How You Should Deal with Stress and Tragedy | Answer the Call

570. How You Should Deal with Stress and Tragedy | Answer the Call

Callers share tragedies: cancer, addiction, loss, and more. Dr. Peterson offers profound advice on navigating suffering with faith, family support, and practical strategies for overcoming the darkest moments life throws at us. He emphasizes finding strength and gratitude even in the darkest times. Would you like to join the show? Share a question here: dailywire.com/answerthecall (The views expressed on "Answer The Call" are presented for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes, and are not intended as medical, nutritional, or psychological advice. Viewers are strongly encouraged to consult with a qualified healthcare professional before making any decisions based on the content presented.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

11 Elo 202557min

569. Family Conflicts, Difficult Children & Overcoming Resentment | Answer The Call

569. Family Conflicts, Difficult Children & Overcoming Resentment | Answer The Call

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson is joined by his daughter Mikhaila Fuller as they address listener questions on having children, understanding women, how to help your wife through motherhood, navigating and avoiding resentment, dealing with family conflict and more. We hope you enjoy it. Would you like to join the show? Share a question here: dailywire.com/answerthecall (The views expressed on "Answer The Call" are presented for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes, and are not intended as medical, nutritional, or psychological advice. Viewers are strongly encouraged to consult with a qualified healthcare professional before making any decisions based on the content presented.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

7 Elo 20251h 9min

568. Advice for Dealing with Bullies, Big Tech and Social Media | Answer the Call

568. Advice for Dealing with Bullies, Big Tech and Social Media | Answer the Call

The views expressed on "Answer The Call" are presented for educational, informational, and entertainment purposes, and are not intended as medical, nutritional, or psychological advice. Viewers are strongly encouraged to consult with a qualified healthcare professional before making any decisions based on the content presented. How do you raise strong kids in a distracted, digital world full of bullying? Dr. Peterson and his daughter Mikhaila take calls on bullying, social media, dating apps, and how parents can help kids resist the algorithm, build real resilience, and face modern challenges with confidence and clarity. Have a question you’d like to ask? Share your story here: dailywire.com/answerthecall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

4 Elo 202556min

566. The Meaning Of: There’s No Such Thing as a Dragon

566. The Meaning Of: There’s No Such Thing as a Dragon

In Answer the Call, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson returns to his roots, taking real calls from real people facing life’s hardest questions. Joined by his daughter, Mikhaila Fuller, the series transforms personal struggles into public insight—offering wisdom, empathy, and clarity in the face of chaos. Coming to DailyWire+ Monday, 8/4. A new podcast series, featured within Dr. Jordan B. Peterson’s episodes on YouTube and including an exclusive member segment on DailyWire+.   Have a question you’d like to ask? Share your story here: dailywire.com/answerthecall   What happens when you ignore a dragon? Dr. Jordan B. Peterson reads and analyzes “There’s No Such Thing as a Dragon” by Jack Kent, exploring its psychological and mythological depth. Using the children’s story as a springboard, Peterson unpacks themes of willful blindness, familial dysfunction, and the archetypal hero’s journey. He draws connections to ancient Egyptian mythology, the Exodus narrative, and the crucifixion of Christ—arguing that dragons—both literal and symbolic—grow when we refuse to confront them. If you’ve ever wondered what a kid’s book has to do with the fate of your household, your children, or your soul—this is the lecture for you.   This episode was filmed on June 28th, 2025 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

28 Heinä 202546min

565. Unlocking the Hidden Power Of Body Language | Vanessa Van Edwards

565. Unlocking the Hidden Power Of Body Language | Vanessa Van Edwards

In Answer the Call, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson returns to his roots, taking real calls from real people facing life’s hardest questions. Joined by his daughter, Mikhaila Fuller, the series transforms personal struggles into public insight—offering wisdom, empathy, and clarity in the face of chaos. Coming to DailyWire+ Monday, 8/4. A new podcast series, featured within Dr. Jordan B. Peterson’s episodes on YouTube and including an exclusive member segment on DailyWire+.   Have a question you’d like to ask? Share your story here: dailywire.com/answerthecall   In this episode, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with behavioral researcher and bestselling author Vanessa Van Edwards to unpack the secret language of nonverbal communication. From the handshake that builds trust to the subtle cues that sabotage careers, they explore how posture, eye contact, tone, and gesture shape perception—often before a single word is spoken. Drawing on Vanessa’s research and her own journey as a “recovering awkward person” turned master communicator, the conversation spans job interviews, power dynamics, mirroring, charisma, and how to read a room at its most fundamental level. Learn why neck ratios matter, vocal fry backfires, and presence begins long before you speak.   This episode was filmed on July 16th, 2025     | Links |   For Vanessa Van Edwards   On X https://x.com/vvanedwards?lang=en   The Science of People website https://www.scienceofpeople.com/   Read “Cues: Master the Secret Language of Charismatic Communication” https://a.co/d/2ZODCds  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

24 Heinä 20251h 40min

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