220. Theory of Enchantment | Chloé Valdary

220. Theory of Enchantment | Chloé Valdary

As an alternative for those who would rather listen ad-free, sign up for a premium subscription to receive the following: *All JBP Podcast episodes ad-free *Monthly Ask-Me-Anything episodes (and the ability to ask questions) *Presale access to events *Premium, detailed show notes for future episodes Sign up here: https://jordanbpeterson.supercast.com This episode was recorded on September 15th, 2021. Chloé Valdary and I discuss The Theory of Enchantment, her personal brand of compassionate anti-racism. Chloé has been featured in Psychology Today and the NY Times. Her work with Theory of Enchantment attempts to bring compassion to diversity training and fight bigotry with love. We covered a range of topics surrounding her practice, structural racism in the US, the civil rights movement, the best way to criticize one another, the power of Truth, white fragility, and what one could expect from her (rather unique) diversity seminars. Find more from Chloé @cvaldary https://twitter.com/cvaldary & check out her program at https://theoryofenchantment.com -- Get started with a 10% discount at magbreakthrough.com/jbp when using promo code "jbp10." If it's not for you, there's a one-year money-back guarantee. _______________ Timestamps _______________ [00:00] Intro [00:30] Chloé’s background [01:52] Why did Chloé want to talk? [02:53] Reading Dr. Peterson’s Maps of Meaning in a lockdown [03:38] What is the goal or focus behind Valdary's work? [04:05] “Supremacist thinking occurs when a human being experiences... some type of deep insecurity within themselves" - Chloé Valdary [05:08] Jordan’s list of questions through Chloé's looking glass [05:49] Sources of racism [12:36] “There are problems money doesn't solve. It would be lovely if [that] produced full security in every aspect, but it doesn't" - Jordan Peterson [12:57] Working with corporations on DEIS [16:55] Debating the validity of lived experience [17:11] “Are you an unquestionable authority on the nature of your lived experience? The answer is yes and no" - JP [21:23] “[Race] certainly isn’t the best way to conceptualize diversity” - JP [23:46] Examining the pathos behind two great leaders in the civil rights movement: Dr. Martin Luther King & Malcolm X [27:34] Chloé’s experience as a teacher [33:06] Learning to appreciate complexity in both the individual and the diverse [36:17] “Raising everyone’s material standards… is ultimately insufficient" - JP [36:34] Seeing people as political abstractions [38:14] Alienation, diversity training, and rural America [44:28] “There are arbitrary pre-conditions to our existence that we didn't choose to deal with" - JP [48:25] How to uplift (never destructive) criticism [51:07] Variance in coping mechanisms [54:44] Everyone is starving for (words of) encouragement [57:07] Rooting everything in love and compassion. Where do those guidelines come from? [01:03:45] Wonder Woman, Power, & Truth [01:04:52] The human capacity to destroy the planet [01:09:29] I'm convinced that there is nothing more powerful than truth in the word." - JP [01:17:31] “Part of the problem in the West is this false understanding of meaning as derived from propositions when it is, in fact, participatory ways of knowing that give rise to propositions in the first place" - Chloé Valdary [01:18:48] The meaning of the word ‘enchantment’ [01:26:23] “The objective of ToE is to bring people back to this relational way of being and to be in balance with their own complexity" - Chloé Valdary [01:26:59] What Chloé does at a ToE seminar [01:32:16] “People have access to the truth… [regardless of] socioeconomic standing" - JP Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Jordan Peterson Live on Tour: There Are Still Dreams Worth Chasing

Jordan Peterson Live on Tour: There Are Still Dreams Worth Chasing

In this live lecture from Omaha, Nebraska, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson weaves through biblical narratives and cultural critique—from Tolstoy’s suicidal despair to Moses’ encounter with the burning bush, from Cain’s failed sacrifice to James Bond as the symbol of romantic adventure. What do these stories have in common? What happens when we replace transcendent pursuit with technological pride or ideological dogma? This is a warning—and a call—to speak the truth, take up your cross, and climb.     This “We Who Wrestle With God” tour stop was filmed in Omaha, NE, on October 21st, 2024. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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556. How Social Media Is Wrecking Kids' Lives and Stealing Their Childhood | Jonathan Haidt

556. How Social Media Is Wrecking Kids' Lives and Stealing Their Childhood | Jonathan Haidt

In this urgent conversation, Jonathan Haidt and Jordan Peterson dissect the silent catastrophe facing Gen Z—spiraling anxiety, attention collapse, and social isolation—all amplified by addictive tech. They explore the psychological and spiritual fallout of algorithm-optimized platforms, the gendered impact on boys and girls, and what it means to raise children in a virtualized world. Data-driven but deeply human, this is essential viewing for anyone wondering what the hell happened after 2012—and how to fix it.   This episode was filmed on June 9th, 2025     | Links |   For Jonathan Haidt:   On X https://x.com/jonhaidt?lang=en   On Substack https://substack.com/@jonathanhaidt   On YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@JonathanHaidt1/videos   Website https://jonathanhaidt.com/   Read “The Anxious Generation: How the Great Rewiring of Childhood Is Causing an Epidemic of Mental Illness” https://a.co/d/04yfM36  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

19 Kesä 20251h 43min

Jordan Peterson Live on Tour: The Hidden Key to a Fulfilling Life

Jordan Peterson Live on Tour: The Hidden Key to a Fulfilling Life

In this powerful lecture from the We Who Wrestle With God tour, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson explores why stories aren't just entertainment—but the essential structure through which we perceive reality, aim toward meaning, and shape our lives. From biblical archetypes to everyday struggles, Peterson weaves a compelling argument that our suffering, identity, and moral choices are all governed by the stories we believe and the sacrifices we're willing to make. Drawing on deep psychological insight and ancient wisdom, he reveals that without a unifying aim, we drift toward bitterness and chaos—but with the right sacrifice, we forge a path toward meaning, community, and spiritual alignment.   This “We Who Wrestle With God” tour stop was filmed in Reading, PA on October 14th, 2024. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

16 Kesä 20251h 30min

555. How the Internet Is Breaking Our Brains | Sam Harris

555. How the Internet Is Breaking Our Brains | Sam Harris

Jordan Peterson and Sam Harris explore the breakdown of institutions in the digital age, and how difficult it’s become to identify what’s true and what’s not. Harris voices deep concern over the role independent media and social platforms play in amplifying misinformation, especially post-October 7th. They discuss the addictive, fragmenting nature of platforms like X, the erosion of trust in institutions, the dangers of AI-generated identity theft — and possible solutions. The result is a sobering analysis of epistemic collapse, digital psychopathy, and the urgent need for institutional structure in a world where mass information fails us.   'This episode was filmed on June 6th, 2025.     | Links |   For Sam Harris:   On X https://twitter.com/MakingSenseHQ     On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/samharrisorg/?hl=en   On Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@samharrisorg   Substack https://samharris.substack.com/   The Waking Up App https://www.wakingup.com/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

12 Kesä 20251h 45min

554. What One Billionaire Knows About Outlasting a Dollar Collapse | Michael Saylor

554. What One Billionaire Knows About Outlasting a Dollar Collapse | Michael Saylor

In this exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Michael Saylor explore the evolving relationship between the U.S. government and Bitcoin, Donald Trump’s growing recognition of cryptocurrency as a strategic commodity, the visionary impact of Bitcoin’s founder Satoshi Nakamoto, and the looming convergence of digital currency with our everyday lives.   This episode was filmed on May 30th, 2025.     | Links |   For Michael Saylor:   On X https://x.com/saylor   Website https://www.michael.com/   Read “What is Money” https://a.co/d/c1t4izi  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

9 Kesä 20251h 32min

553. Why Do Smart People Double Down On Bad Ideas? | Dr. Gad Saad

553. Why Do Smart People Double Down On Bad Ideas? | Dr. Gad Saad

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and evolutionary psychologist Dr. Gad Saad reunite for a conversation that blends ancient myth, evolutionary theory, and cultural psychology. Together, they dissect cognitive dissonance, the dangers of willful blindness, and the evolutionary logic behind sacrifice, delayed gratification, and identity formation.   This episode was filmed on May 23rd, 2025.     | Links |   For Dr. Gad Saad:   Read “The Saad Truth About Happiness: 8 Rules for Living the Good Life” https://a.co/d/1IqTyM9   On X https://twitter.com/GadSaad   On Facebook https://www.facebook.com/Dr.Gad.Saad/   On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/doctorgadsaad/   On YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLH7qUqM0PLieCVaHA7RegA   Spotify Podcast https://open.spotify.com/show/5T2wjkFxsjvuxO1SDcZh29   Apple podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-saad-truth-with-dr-saad/id1516343565  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

5 Kesä 20251h 22min

552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

552. The Feminism Debate: Can Women Have It All? | Megyn Kelly

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and journalist Megyn Kelly dissect the cultural and psychological forces reshaping modern gender dynamics—particularly the rising unhappiness among young women, the suppression of traditional masculinity, and the consequences of empathy-driven institutions. They explore maternal overreach, the devaluation of motherhood, the politicization of victimhood, and the unintended fallout of feminism’s gains in the corporate and academic world. This episode unpacks how men and women are drifting further apart—politically, emotionally, and biologically—and asks whether modern society is equipped to repair the divide wrought by extreme feminism.   This episode was filmed on May 28th, 2025.   There’s nothing more difficult—or more important—than raising a child. In this new 5-part series, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson brings decades of clinical insight to the questions every parent faces: discipline, identity, responsibility, and what it truly means to guide a child toward a meaningful life. Available now, exclusively on DailyWire+ https://www.dailywire.com/show/parenting    | Links |   For Megyn Kelly:   On X https://x.com/megynkellyshow?lang=en   On Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@MegynKelly   Website https://www.megynkelly.com/  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

2 Kesä 20251h 21min

551. An Honest Take on the Looming Energy Crisis | Scott Tinker

551. An Honest Take on the Looming Energy Crisis | Scott Tinker

Is our planet doomed? Probably not, it turns out. Dr. Jordan B. Peterson joins geologist Scott Tinker to dismantle the myth of energy scarcity, exposing the flawed narratives that demonize coal, oil, and natural gas. Together, they reject the false binary of renewables versus fossil fuels, arguing instead for an abundant future powered by both. This conversation confronts the culture of fear that paralyzes progress and issues a stark warning: if the West continues to undermine its own energy and technological ambitions in service of an ideological green agenda, it risks ceding global leadership to authoritarian regimes like China. Innovation, prosperity, and freedom depend on confronting reality—not retreating from it.   Privacy Policy: https://www.dailywire.com/privacy   This episode was filmed on May 23rd, 2025.     | Links |   For Scott Tinker:   Watch Scott’s speech at the 2025 ARC Conference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7EjhVyCHgA   Switch On (Film) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk75bD-C3H4     Switch Energy Alliance https://switchon.org/about/leadership/     Watch Energy Switch (Show) https://www.pbs.org/show/energy-switch/   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

29 Touko 20251h 32min

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