Inside the Battle for Psychedelic Therapy | Rick Doblin
632nm26 Elo 2025

Inside the Battle for Psychedelic Therapy | Rick Doblin

What does it take to turn a banned psychedelic into an FDA-approved medicine?

Visit MAPS to read about the latest progress is psychedelic research: https://maps.org/

In this episode, we speak with Rick Doblin, founder of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), about the decades-long mission to make MDMA-assisted therapy a legal treatment for PTSD and other mental health conditions. Rick received his PhD from Harvard's Kennedy School of Government in public policy focusing on the regulation of medical use of psychedelics in 2001. Rick shares the science behind MDMA’s therapeutic effects, the strategy for winning over regulators, and the battles over claims of neurotoxicity. We discuss the history of psychedelic research, the rise of the underground therapy movement, and how clinical trials, policy change, and cultural perception must align to move psychedelics from stigma to science.

Whether you’re curious about psychedelic science, drug policy reform, FDA clinical trials, or the future of mental health treatment, this conversation delivers expert insight into the intersection of research, regulation, and real-world impact.

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Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro
01:32 - How Would Rick Describe a Psychedelic Experience?
05:02 - What is Rick's Favorite Psychedelic?
09:46 - The Underground is Ahead of the Research
12:45 - How Rick Got Interested in Psychedelics
26:39 - Can Psychedelics Stop War?
40:45 - Do People Need Trauma?
45:09 - Is America a Falling Empire?
52:08 - What if MAPS was in the YC?
55:00 - Why was MDMA the Choice to Push for Legality?
1:02:22 - The Origins of Modern Psychedelic Therapy
1:05:20 - Misinformation Around Psychedelics
1:17:12 - How MAPS is Developing Psychedelic Therapies
1:30:13 - How Should Healthy People Use Psychedelics?
1:38:05 - Psychedelic Experiences as Rites of Passage
1:42:02 - Finding Life's Purpose
1:52:49 - Why Do Fears of Psychedelics Persist?
1:56:44 - What Does It Take for Psychedelics to Get FDA Approved?
2:13:55 - Rick's Pet Wolf
2:23:39 - Rick's Last Interaction with his Wolf
2:30:55 - Psychedelic Group Therapy
2:33:37 - We Need More Psychedelic Therapists

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Gravitational Waves: Rainer Weiss (Nobel Prize 2017) on Laser Interferometer Observation

Gravitational Waves: Rainer Weiss (Nobel Prize 2017) on Laser Interferometer Observation

In 1916, Einstein predicted the existence of gravitational waves, however, it took almost a century for researchers to detect them. In this episode of the 632-nanometer podcast, the team has a fireside chat with Rainer Weiss, the man behind the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-wave Observatory and winner of the Nobel Prize in Physics for the observation of gravitational waves. What are gravitational waves, where do they come from, and why are they so difficult to detect? What detection approaches were considered and how did they eventually succeed? In this podcast, you will find the answers to these questions and hear many other insights from Rainer Weiss about science and life in general. We also discuss space-time distortion, Einstein's theories, the evolution of black hole theory, the pioneering efforts of Joseph Weber, the limitations of early detection methods, the discovery of the interferometry approach, the significance of inflation, technological challenges faced by current detectors like LISA, the role of Richard Isaacson in securing LIGO's success, proposals for moon-based colliders, the role of AI in physics, the operational and financial challenges in large-scale scientific projects, and lots of strategic advice for future researchers.01:26 Explaining Gravitational Waves02:06 Challenges in Measuring Gravitational Waves04:21 Einstein's Predictions and Misconceptions08:12 The Role of Black Holes in Gravitational Waves21:00 Historical Experiments and Controversies41:54 Exploring Vacuum Fluctuations42:41 A Personal Story: Leaving MIT43:27 Dream Physics Experiment44:20 Understanding Inflation and Gravitational Waves46:36 Challenges in Gravitational Wave Detection52:22 The Role of Richard Isaacson in LIGO's Success56:06 Engineering Marvels of LIGO01:19:02 Philosophical Reflections and Future ProspectsFOLLOW US ON SOCIAL:Twitter @ https://x.com/632nmPodcastSubstack: https://632nmpodcast.substack.com/Michael Dubrovsky @ https://x.com/MikeDubrovskyMisha Shalaginov @ https://x.com/MYShalaginovXinghui Yin @ https://x.com/XinghuiYinSUBSCRIBE:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/632nm/id1751170269Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4aVH9vT5qp5UUUvQ6Uf6ORWEBSITE:https://www.632nm.com

28 Loka 20241h 21min

Synthetic Biology: George Church on Genome Sequencing and De-Extinction

Synthetic Biology: George Church on Genome Sequencing and De-Extinction

The great George Church takes us through the revolutionary journey of DNA sequencing from his early groundbreaking work to the latest advancements. He discusses the evolution of sequencing methods, including molecular multiplexing, and their implications for understanding and combating aging. We talk about the rise of biotech startups, potential future directions in genome sequencing, the role of precise gene therapies, the ongoing integration of nanotechnology and biology, the potential of biological engineering in accelerating evolution, transhumanism, the Human Genome Project, and the importance of intellectual property in biotechnology. The episode concludes with reflections on future technologies, the importance of academia in fostering innovation, and the need for scalable developments in biotech.02:38 Innovations in DNA Sequencing03:15 The Evolution of Sequencing Methods07:41 Longevity and Aging Reversal12:12 Biotech Startups and Commercial Endeavors17:38 Future Directions in Genome Sequencing28:10 Humanity's Role and Transhumanism37:23 Exploring the Connectome and Neural Networks38:29 The Mystery of Life: From Atoms to Living Systems39:35 Accelerating Evolution and Biological Engineering41:37 Merging Nanotechnology and Biology45:00 The Future of Biotech and Young Innovators47:16 The Human Genome Project: Successes and Shortcomings01:01:10 Intellectual Property in Biotechnology01:06:30 Future Technologies and Final ThoughtsFOLLOW US ON SOCIAL:Twitter @ https://x.com/632nmPodcastSubstack: https://632nmpodcast.substack.com/Michael Dubrovsky @ https://x.com/MikeDubrovskyMisha Shalaginov @ https://x.com/MYShalaginovXinghui Yin @ https://x.com/XinghuiYinSUBSCRIBE:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/632nm/id1751170269Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4aVH9vT5qp5UUUvQ6Uf6ORWEBSITE:https://www.632nm.com

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