Samim Ghamami on the Treasury Markets Impact on the Future Path of Interest Rates and Inflation

Samim Ghamami on the Treasury Markets Impact on the Future Path of Interest Rates and Inflation

Samim Ghamami is former SEC economist. Samim returns to the show to discuss the fiscal trajectory of the US, the outlook of interest rates, the US Treasury market’s impact on inflation, potential reforms to the Treasury market and much more.

Check out the transcript for this week’s episode, now with links.

Recorded on August 5th, 2025

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Timestamps

00:00:00 - Intro

00:01:42 - Fiscal Trajectory of the US

00:3:55 - Interest Rates

00:21:28 - Inflation

00:39:53 - Treasury Market Reform

00:48:05 - Outro

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Scott Sumner on The Money Illusion

Scott Sumner on The Money Illusion

Scott Sumner is David’s colleague and the Ralph G. Hawtrey Chair of Monetary Policy at the Mercatus Center. Scott is also a returning guest to the podcast and joins David on Macro Musings to discuss his new book, The Money Illusion: Market Monetarism, the Great Recession, and the Future of Monetary Policy. Specifically, David and Scott discuss common misconceptions about the 2008-09 Recession, why bubble narratives too often miss the mark when explaining rising asset prices, whether the Fed’s adoption of average inflation targeting signals that it is moving toward a level target, and much more.   Transcript for the episode can be found here.   Scott’s Twitter: @ScottSumnerTMI Scott’s blog: https://www.themoneyillusion.com/ Scott’s Mercatus profile: https://www.mercatus.org/scholars/scott-sumner   Related Links:   *The Money Illusion: Market Monetarism, the Great Recession, and the Future of Monetary Policy* By Scott Sumner https://www.mercatus.org/publications/monetary-policy/money-illusion-market-monetarism-great-recession-and-future-monetary   *Eight Centuries of Global Real Interest Rates, R-G, and the ‘Suprasecular’ Decline, 1311–2018* by Paul Schmelzing https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3485734   David’s blog: macromarketmusings.blogspot.com David’s Twitter: @DavidBeckworth

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Chris Russo on the 2021 Debt Limit Fight, Its Potential Impacts, and Solutions for Reform

Chris Russo on the 2021 Debt Limit Fight, Its Potential Impacts, and Solutions for Reform

Chris Russo is a post-graduate research fellow in the Monetary Policy Program of the Mercatus Center at George Mason University and is a former economist at the New York Federal Reserve Bank. He re-joins Macro Musings to talk about the growing concerns over the US debt ceiling, what it could mean for the economy, and how to fix the issue.   Transcript for the episode can be found here.   Chris’s Twitter: @RussoEcon Chris’s Mercatus profile: https://www.mercatus.org/scholars/christopher-russo Chris’s Github site: https://christopher-russo.github.io/about/   Related Links:   *Permanently Suspend the Debt Limit* by Christopher Russo https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/553827-permanently-suspend-the-debt-limit   *What the Fed Will Do if Congress Doesn’t Fix the Debt Ceiling* by Christopher Russo https://www.barrons.com/articles/inside-the-feds-playbook-for-a-dollar-default-51622055588   *America’s Need to Pay Its Bills Has Spawned a Political Game* by Jim Tankersley https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/26/business/economy/america-debt-limit-political-game.html   David’s blog: macromarketmusings.blogspot.com David’s Twitter: @DavidBeckworth

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Hanno Lustig on Dollar Dominance, Dollar Safety, and the Global Financial Cycle

Hanno Lustig on Dollar Dominance, Dollar Safety, and the Global Financial Cycle

Hanno Lustig is a professor of finance at Stanford University, and a senior fellow at the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research. Hanno joins David on Macro Musings to discuss his work on dollar safety, safe assets, convenience yields, and more. More specifically, Hanno and David discuss the dollar dominance in global financial markets, how the US’s status as the world’s safe asset provider reinforces its exorbitant privilege in money markets, whether the countercyclical demand for safe assets can help explain why US inflation has been so low this past decade, how years of low interest rate policy might have contributed to the growing wealth gap, and much more.   Transcript for the episode can be found here.   Hanno’s Twitter: @HannoLustig Hanno’s Stanford profile: https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/faculty-research/faculty/hanno-lustig   Related Links:   *Dollar Safety and the Global Financial Cycle* by Zhengyang Jiang, Arvind Krishnamurthy, and Hanno Lustig https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/faculty-research/working-papers/dollar-safety-global-financial-cycle   *Mind the Gap in Sovereign Debt Markets: The U.S. Treasury basis and the Dollar Risk Factor* by Arvind Krishnamurthy and Hanno Lustig https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3443231   *Manufacturing Risk-Free Government Debt* by Zhengyang Jiang, Hanno Lustig, Stijn Van Nieuwerburgh, and Mindy Z. Xiaolan https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3646430   *US Government Debt Valuation Puzzle* by Zhengyang Jiang, Hanno Lustig, Stijn Van Nieuwerburgh, and Mindy Z. Xiaolan https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3333517   *The Fiscal Theory of Price Level with a Bubble* by Markus K. Brunnermeier, Sebastian A. Merkel and Yuliy Sannikov https://www.nber.org/papers/w27116   *Debt As Safe Asset: Mining the Bubble* by Markus K. Brunnermeier, Sebastian Merkel, and Yuliy Sannikov https://scholar.princeton.edu/markus/publications/debt-safe-asset-mining-bubble   *The Safety Trap* by Ricardo J. Caballero and Emmanuel Farhi https://www.nber.org/papers/w19927   *Financial and Total Wealth Inequality with Declining Interest Rates* by Daniel Greenwald, Matteo Leombroni, Hanno Lustig, and Stijn Van Nieuwerburgh https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3789220   *The Saving Glut of the Rich* by Atif Mian, Ludwig Straub, and Amir Sufi https://scholar.harvard.edu/straub/publications/saving-glut-rich-and-rise-household-debt   David’s blog: macromarketmusings.blogspot.com David’s Twitter: @DavidBeckworth

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Megan Greene on the Future of CBDC and How Central Banks Should Respond to Climate Change

Megan Greene on the Future of CBDC and How Central Banks Should Respond to Climate Change

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20 Syys 202153min

Joseph Wang on the Fed’s Impact on Money Markets

Joseph Wang on the Fed’s Impact on Money Markets

Joseph Wang is a former senior trader on the open market desk at the Federal Reserve Bank in New York and the author of the book Central Banking 101. He also blogs at fedguy.com and is active on Twitter. Joseph joins Macro Musings to discuss what has happened at the Fed from the operational side, and we consider its implications for money markets. Specifically, Joseph and David discuss recent events from the perspective of the Federal Reserve trading desk, Joseph’s conception of a two-tiered monetary system, continued dollar dominance in global money markets, whether the Fed’s overnight repo facility is truly a temporary facility or trending towards a permanent one, and much more.   Transcript for the episode can be found here.   Joseph’s Twitter: @FedGuy12 Joseph’s website: http://fedguy.com/   Related Links:   *QE Zombifies Money Markets* by Joseph Wang https://fedguy.com/qe-zombifies-money-markets/   *The Gravitational Pull of Zero* by Joseph Wang https://fedguy.com/the-gravitational-pull-of-zero/   *RRP At The ZLB* by Joseph Wang https://fedguy.com/rrp-at-the-zlb/   David’s blog: macromarketmusings.blogspot.com David’s Twitter: @DavidBeckworth

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Philippa Sigl-Glöckner on the Debt Brake, German Fiscal Policy, and Full Capacity Utilization

Philippa Sigl-Glöckner on the Debt Brake, German Fiscal Policy, and Full Capacity Utilization

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Jennifer Murtazashvili on Recent Developments in Afghanistan and Lessons for State Capacity Building

Jennifer Murtazashvili on Recent Developments in Afghanistan and Lessons for State Capacity Building

Jennifer Murtazashvili is an associate professor of political science at the University of Pittsburgh and directs the Center for Governance and Markets. Jennifer is also an expert on all things Afghanistan, given her experience working there and advising governments and international organizations on issues related to Afghanistan. She also has a new book titled, *Land, the State, and War: Property Institutions and Political Order in Afghanistan*, and joins the show to talk about it. Jennifer and David also discuss the recent developments as well as long-term developments in the country and lessons for state capacity building.   Transcript for the episode can be found here.   Jennifer’s Twitter: @jmurtazashvili Jennifer’s University of Pittsburgh profile: https://gspia.pitt.edu/faculty-and-staff/jennifer-brick-murtazashvili   Related Links:   *Land, the State, and War: Property Institutions and Political Order in Afghanistan* by Jennifer Murtazashvili and Ilia Murtazashvili https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/land-the-state-and-war/A7B8C98CB24780A3CC0EA1CD265D888A   *Informal Federalism: Self-Governance and Power Sharing in Afghanistan* by Jennifer Murtazashvili https://academic.oup.com/publius/article-abstract/44/2/324/1873292   *The Politics of Land Property Rights* by Meina Cai, Ilia Murtazashvili and Jennifer Murtazashvili https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3393160   *Bring the Afghans to America* by Benjamin Powell and Alex Nowrasteh https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/homeland-security/568964-bring-the-afghans-to-america?rl=1   *Inside Afghanistan’s Cryptocurrency Underground as the Country Plunges into Turmoil* by MacKenzie Sigalos https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/21/bitcoin-afghanistan-cryptocurrency-taliban-capital-flight.html   David’s blog: macromarketmusings.blogspot.com David’s Twitter: @DavidBeckworth

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Bill Nelson on the Growth of the Federal Reserve

Bill Nelson on the Growth of the Federal Reserve

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