EP 110: “The Verm” Returns — Life Lessons at Age 62, Fun Facts About Birds, and Injury Stories

EP 110: “The Verm” Returns — Life Lessons at Age 62, Fun Facts About Birds, and Injury Stories

This is round 2 with John Sherman aka “The Verm”. We sat in the desert near Hueco Tanks and chatted over a few beers. We talked about ‘Wheatiesgate’ and the lost art of heckling, finding and developing areas before the internet, dealing with aging, photographing and studying birds, life lessons, injury stories, and John’s favorite beers.

*I recommend listening to my first episode with Verm (EP 108) before this episode.

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0:06:39 – The Michael Salem catalog

0:09:33 – West Texas in the early 80s

0:17:02 – ‘Wheatiesgate’ and the lost art of heckling

0:27:16 – Patron question from Eli: As bouldering has evolved, what has stayed the same?

0:28:39 – Adventureland, and the experience of climbing boulders without names or stars or grades

0:34:39 – Finding Ibex, UT, and discovering new areas before Google Earth

0:41:40 – Patron question from Brandon: What advice would The Verm give to a new climber?

0:48:09 – Aging, prostates, and swollen knuckles

0:55:34 – Hangdogging, new-age tactics, and why John feels like Jason Kehl is a kindred spirit

0:58:33 – What has surprised John about aging, and how baby birds poop

1:02:09 – Cognitive decline, and other scary things that come with age

1:06:32 – Taking his foot off the gas, getting out of shape, and calorie counting

1:10:29 – Getting an amazing personal trainer, and fixing his elbow issues by fixing his shoulders

1:17:52 – Patron question from Brandon: What got you into birding? And what about it got you hooked?

1:24:27 – Patron question from Brandon: Has birding taught you any life lessons?

1:42:27 – Injury stories and life lessons

2:31:29 – Developing bouldering in Ibex, UT

2:37:02 – A year in Verm’s life, and tick marks

2:44:10 – Return of the harrier, and more bird facts

2:52:10 – Favorite books and short stories

2:57:59 – Verm’s memoir idea, favorite books, and sports

3:07:50 – Climbing with Paul Robinson and Michaela Kiersch

3:14:59 – The compression revolution, John Gill, slab dynoing, and the Hoover Maneuver

3:23:59 – Patron question from Brandon: Top three beers? (and the De Garre story)

3:38:20 – Patron question from Craig: What bird best represents your personality? (and duck penises)

3:46:15 – Patron question from Craig: What bird would John Gill be?

3:53:04 – The baboon story

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Follow-Up: Steve Bechtel — When to Stick With It, and Climbing His First 5.14 at Age 47 (Teaser)

Follow-Up: Steve Bechtel — When to Stick With It, and Climbing His First 5.14 at Age 47 (Teaser)

This full episode is available for Patrons right now! This is a teaser of my second Follow-Up with Steve Bechtel. We talked about when to stick with a training program vs. when to pivot, lessons from ...

11 Marras 202121min

EP 94: Nathaniel Coleman — Preparing for the Tokyo Olympics, Climbing in a Sauna, and Kendama Training

EP 94: Nathaniel Coleman — Preparing for the Tokyo Olympics, Climbing in a Sauna, and Kendama Training

Nathaniel Coleman is the men’s silver medalist of the Tokyo Olympics. We talked about his preparation for the games, training in a climbing sauna, the Olympic experience and winning silver, favorite r...

8 Marras 20211h 48min

EP 93: Tom Herbert (Part 2) —How to Relax to Improve your Passat Reserves, and Tom’s Life Story

EP 93: Tom Herbert (Part 2) —How to Relax to Improve your Passat Reserves, and Tom’s Life Story

This is part 2 of my conversation with Tom Herbert. Tom shared some clarifications about part 1, we talked about the nervous system and the mind-body connection, how to relax before a session to impro...

1 Marras 20212h 32min

Follow-Up: Natasha Barnes — Climbing Harder in a Stronger Body (Teaser)

Follow-Up: Natasha Barnes — Climbing Harder in a Stronger Body (Teaser)

This full episode is available for Patrons right now! This is a teaser of my second Follow-Up with Natasha Barnes. We talked about how each of us has changed as climbers from gaining muscle mass, how ...

28 Loka 202122min

EP 92: Tom Herbert (Part 1) — Eating More to Train Harder, Protein Synthesis, and Carbohydrate Timing

EP 92: Tom Herbert (Part 1) — Eating More to Train Harder, Protein Synthesis, and Carbohydrate Timing

Tom Herbert is known as the usefulcoach, and is a leader in climbing sports nutrition. We talked about common themes in clients he works with, his philosophy of getting climbers to eat more calories t...

25 Loka 20212h 35min

EP 91: Craig DeMartino — Amputating His Leg to Climb Again, El Cap Stories, and Embracing a New Normal

EP 91: Craig DeMartino — Amputating His Leg to Climb Again, El Cap Stories, and Embracing a New Normal

Craig DeMartino is a rock climber, motivational speaker, and teacher. His life changed in 2002 when he took a 100-foot ground fall. We talked about Craig’s accident and recovery, the decision to amput...

18 Loka 20212h 43min

EP 90: Josh Wharton — Onsight Tips and Tricks, Training to Flash El Capitan, and Risk Assessment as a Parent

EP 90: Josh Wharton — Onsight Tips and Tricks, Training to Flash El Capitan, and Risk Assessment as a Parent

Josh Wharton is one of the most badass climbers you’ve never heard of. He does it all at an elite level. We talked about tips for hard flashing and onsighting, how alpine climbing relates to rock clim...

11 Loka 20212h 16min

EP 89: Q&A 3 — How My Training Has Evolved, How to Stay Strong on a Road Trip, and Life Mottos

EP 89: Q&A 3 — How My Training Has Evolved, How to Stay Strong on a Road Trip, and Life Mottos

In Q&A 3, I tackle patron questions about my two most successful winters of training on my home wall back in Bend, how my training has evolved and what it looks like now, how to maintain strength whil...

4 Loka 20211h 3min

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