Part 17 - Dr. Bill Schindler on Food, Our Ancestors, and How We Became Human

Part 17 - Dr. Bill Schindler on Food, Our Ancestors, and How We Became Human

Dr. Bill Schindler is the director of the Eastern Shore Food Lab at Washington College where he is also an associate professor of archaeology and anthropology. Two years ago he co-hosted the National Geographic show The Great Human Race. He spent the last year abroad continuing his hands-on research and professional development by immersing himself and his family with indigenous and traditional groups around the world to learn about their food and diets. As an experimental archaeologist and primitive technologist his specialties are in recreating technologies of the past to better interpret our ancestral diets. His current focus is learning how to translate the outcomes of that research into something meaningful for modern day diet and health and is working to fuse lessons from our ancestral dietary past with modern culinary arts to create a food system that is relevant, accessible and meaningful to modern Western life.

We got into so many interesting things like the development of humans and how it tracked with food technology, drinking blood and milk with pastoral tribes in Africa, eating brains, ancient food preparation and hunting, my favorite topic - nutrient density, and so much more. It was so enlightening talking to him, I'll stop talking now so you can have a listen.

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Show Notes

  • Dr. Bill Schindler is a professor at Washington College in Maryland
  • Director of Eastern Shore Food Lab https://www.washcoll.edu/departments/eastern-shore-food-lab/
  • His whole life has led up to his career and interests
  • His dad took him into nature and he learned to deal with taking an animal's life even though he didn't enjoy it
  • Also grew up with mom and grandmother in kitchen cooking - realized it was all connected
  • Learned to hunt and make tools as our ancestors did
  • He became what's known as an experimental archeologist
  • Almost every single primitive technology made is related to food. Every tool and invention was based on getting food, processing food, storing food
  • THe realization of the different types of food processing made all the difference
  • Food processing of the past all focused on INCREASING nutrient density
  • All modern food processing focused on money savings, shipping, shelf life, etc.
  • Modern food processing also DECREASES nutrient density
  • Not everything new we do is bad though
  • Dairy is a hot topic. Just because we didn't always consume it or other mammals don't consume it past a certain time in their life, doesn't mean it's not healthy (if you tolerate it)
  • Everything changed 3.4 million years ago when we made the first tool
  • Humans are one of the weakest species on the planet on our own
  • Our bodies and brains were quite small before we created tools to access meat
  • Our digestive systems are actually pretty inefficient. We need to process our food with tools and fire to feed our large brains
  • We have bones from Ethiopia that have butcher marks on them from this time, as well as impact fractures to get bone marrow inside
  • 2 million years ago the invention of fire and some other hunting techniques were monumental for our species
  • Humans started off as scavengers
  • Once we started actually hunting ourselves we had first access to the animals we killed so therefore all the most nutrient dense, choice parts like the organ meats, etc.
  • Results in a huge increase in body and brain size and women catch up in size to men more
  • We mimic other animals in techniques of acquiring and processing foods
  • Our biology isn't set up to eat meat like other carnivores - humans are set up to use tools and technology to consume nutrient dense animal products
  • As we changed our diets, our bodies adapted to it. Homo sapiens wouldn't have made it 300,000 years ago if we didn't develop these extensions of our physical form necessary to cook and process meat
  • We have brains that require high quality animal fats to function
  • What is domestication? Humans were the first domesticated species - we domesticated ourselves
  • Our teeth got smaller as we started relying on processing food outside of our bodies
  • If we had absolutely nothing and were left to survive, the first thing we'd have to do is create a tool or control fire. Our body can do almost nothing on it's own
  • Our food technology tracked with our body and brain size over history
  • Almost all our modern produce was at one point toxic
  • Nobody knows our exact diet 300k years ago, but that doesn't matter - we have certain nutritional requirements that were established
  • We accomplished the impossible back then, but even more impossible we now have gotten ourselves obese and malnourished at the same time
  • We're using modern processing to create nutrient-free food and it is what we are basically programmed to seek out in the modern food environment
  • He argued with a pediatrician who was demanding patients to drink skim milk
  • We evolved away from our chimp ancestors who's digestive systems were made for digesting a ton of plant matter
  • When we became bipedal 5-7 million years ago, everything changed
  • Apes have to eat all day long and have giant jaw muscles to do this and tiny brains
  • Theories on why are brains doubled in size
  • Fat was prized for all of history
  • Eating the ENTIRE animal
  • White meat chicken breasts are the least nutrient dense, newest, wackiest thing we could eat
  • His family rule is kill the animal yourself or know the person who raised and killed it
  • Farmers markets are key
  • The advent of agriculture can clearly be seen in the fossil record with a decrease in physical size and brain size
  • What's the real problem with agriculture?
  • How can we utilize modern agriculture and technology to feed the billions of earth today?
  • Connect yourself to your food. Try foraging. Go hunting. Go to a butcher. Make the foods you like from scratch at least once.
  • Know the story of food
  • Focus on quality
  • Animals are the most nutrient dense foods available, especially the organ meats, brains, marrow, etc.
  • He spent a year abroad in places like Kenya and Mongolia and studied many hunter gatherers such as the Hadza
  • He was with a group that brought down a genet cat and ate all the organs immediately
  • They were continuously hunting and gathering and hide a very varied diet
  • Picturesque physiques with wide, healthy jaws, white teeth, big smiles, almost prancing as they ran
  • Just blood and milk diet for 6 months
  • How to have a meaningful conversation about diet, health, and sustainability
  • Took a year off to live with these cultures and wrote a book
  • His TV show on NatGeo called The Great Human Race http://www.natgeotv.com/int/the-great-human-race
  • We must use the lessons of the past to learn what to do now and the future
  • He painstakingly made all the period-accurate clothes for the show by hand
  • How did our ancient ancestors lived based on this knowledge?
  • We weren't "surviving" - we must have been thriving to be able to continue having many babies who could then propagate our species
  • Food Lab https://www.washcoll.edu/departments/eastern-shore-food-lab/
  • His personal site http://ancestralinsight.com
  • Follow all his work over the past year http://FoodEvolutions.org
  • Twitter http://twitter.com/drbillschindler
  • Join the Sapien Movement http://SapienMovement.com

Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Sapien Movement: http://SapienMovement.com Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg Theme music by https://kylewardmusic.com/

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Part 208 - Mary Ruddick Debunks the Blue Zones and Explains Worldwide Health Decline

Part 208 - Mary Ruddick Debunks the Blue Zones and Explains Worldwide Health Decline

Mary Ruddick is an internationally acclaimed nutritionist currently based in Europe and Africa. She has personally trained professional nutritionists around the globe. Dubbed the "Sherlock Holmes of Health" for her unique ability to expeditiously assess and remediate rare neuromuscular conditions that others have deemed impossible, Mary Ruddick is a seasoned researcher, educator, medical nutritionist, entrepreneur, and philanthropist. Her writing has been published in medical journals and her own inspirational healing story can be found in several publications. http://enableyourhealing.com BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post SHOW NOTES (10:38) The Maasai people who live the most traditional lifestyles are living what us moderns would consider a "utopia". (22:32) The mental health crisis came as a result of being unhealthy in general. (28:12) When you eat organ meat, you take in a lot of serine. (34:34) Another practice within these indigenous cultures is that there is no trading of food, meaning everything eaten is native. Their food is also traditionally processed. (45:25) You don't need to completely remove plants from your diet, but gravitate towards those that you enjoy eating and have been properly prepared to minimize toxicity. (53:12) When optimizing your nutrition, don't focus on achieving balance. Focus on avoiding deficiencies. (1:08:42) There are different levels of nutritional knowledge. (1:21:17) The concept of "Blue Zones" as presented in the mainstream is largely misrepresented. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

1 Marras 20231h 34min

Part 207 - Veronica Max, APRN, FNP on Your Complete Health Makeover

Part 207 - Veronica Max, APRN, FNP on Your Complete Health Makeover

Veronica Max is a nurse practitioner and the CEO of UltraPersonal Healthcare. Bringing more than eleven years of family and functional medicine experience to the table, Veronica founded UltraPersonal Healthcare with the aim of creating a quality of care, service and experience that she found missing in the modern healthcare system. Just tell her Brian sent you! https://www.ultrapersonal.healthcare BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post SHOW NOTES (12:24) Find a healthcare practitioner that focuses on preventing disease rather than treating disease. (16:14) Terrain theory takes into account the human body and the health of the organism. (23:31) Exposure to the sun and the elements is vital to a healthy body with normal levels of sex and thyroid hormone. (36:40) A healthy diet involves meat, fish, and seasonal fruits and vegetables. (41:44) There's ancient wisdom in the fact that all the major religions incorporate fasting. (47:21) Hashimoto's is autoimmune hypothyroidism (underactive thyroid). (55:57) Calorie restriction is a form of stress. (1:02:02) Movement is important. But if you overlook food and light, you won't meet your goals. (1:08:30) It's no coincidence that the thyroid is in the throat. (1:11:29) There's no right or wrong place for a woman to have her baby. It's important to know your options. (1:14:32) When it comes to your child's immunization schedule, it's important to educate yourself and to listen to your intuition as a parent. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

25 Loka 20231h 19min

Part 206 - Chris Kruger on How to Lose Fat the Easy Way

Part 206 - Chris Kruger on How to Lose Fat the Easy Way

Chris Kruger is a fitness coach and a promoter of the high-testosterone lifestyle. At 40 years old, he has already dedicated two full decades to assisting men worldwide in achieving their peak potential – in appearance, well-being, and overall performance – all without the need for pills, powders, prescriptions, or PEDs/TRT. http://Instagram.com/krugerbody Just DM him you want to do the SAPIEN program ck@testosteronesuperchallenge.com BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post SHOW NOTES: (06:19) Natural hormone optimization applies to men just as much as it applies to women. (07:20) A calorie deficit for weight loss purposes is only effective in the short-term. (16:15) Instead of restricting yourself nutritionally while trying to improve or maintain performance, go for naturally optimizing your hormones. (26:55) Don't think "energy balance". Think "energy metabolism". (37:28) True health or fitness is about living like a human should to the fullest. (53:04) Testosterone can be produced from saturated fat. (1:01:52) Your health and fitness is a reflection of the relationship you have with yourself. (1:22:46) Outside of sleep, the biggest lever you can pull is getting enough protein. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

19 Loka 20231h 32min

Part 205 - Dave Feldman on The Amazing Study of Fit People w/ High LDL Cholesterol

Part 205 - Dave Feldman on The Amazing Study of Fit People w/ High LDL Cholesterol

Dave Feldman is an independent researcher and software engineer who has gained notoriety for his work on cholesterol and lipid metabolism, particularly in the context of low-carbohydrate and ketogenic diets. Coming from a background in software engineering, Feldman took a systems engineering approach to understanding cholesterol, creating what he calls the "lipid energy model." He has presented his findings at various medical conferences and is a frequent guest on health and wellness podcasts. Although not a credentialed medical professional, Feldman's citizen science has challenged traditional views on cholesterol, encouraging more nuanced discussions around its role in health. His work has captivated a large following of both laypeople and experts interested in the complexities of lipidology. http://CholesterolCode.com BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post SHOW NOTES: (4:18) A study on the Lipid Energy Model (LEM) (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35629964/) may explain why cholesterol increases in those who decide to consume fat for energy over carbs. (12:46) The status of your metabolic health influences how a particular diet affects your health, no matter the diet. (20:42) HDL at 50 or higher and triglycerides at 100 or lower are good benchmarks to strive for. (36:19) Multiple studies demonstrate that, if you take 100 random people in the same demographic with 0 risk factors, 60 male and 40 female, a little more than half of them would have 0 CAC. (44:07) Dave's ongoing companion study (follow updates at https://citizensciencefoundation.org/) running parallel to the main study features a control group with more relaxed criteria. (52:03) If we had more data on healthy populations, a clearer path towards a healthy way of life will be achieved (59:40) Visit (https://ownyourlabs.com/) which is both a blood testing service and a hub to participate in citizen science. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

4 Loka 202356min

Part 204 - Gabor Erdosi on The Root Cause of Diabetes, Disease, and Obesity

Part 204 - Gabor Erdosi on The Root Cause of Diabetes, Disease, and Obesity

Gabor is a food scientist with a master's in molecular biology. He lives in Hungary and is one of these engineers/scientists who I love talking to who look at nutrition differently. He has a very unique perspective because he worked for big food manufacturers. He spends almost all of his free time researching this stuff to help people understand how bad these processed foods actually are. He has a large community on Facebook where he shares and discusses this information. He also has some great presentations he's done you can find online. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post SHOW NOTES (12:29) To determine whether a study is biased, refer first to potential conflicts of interest. (14:56) Adipose tissue is a question of function over mass. (23:53) We are adaptive organisms. (31:04) Accelerated Appearance and Absorption (AAA) takes place when your small intestinal tract is filled too quickly with ultra-processed foods (refined carbs and/or added fats). (41:03) Processed proteins are nowhere near as unhealthy as processed carbs. (55:40) Overeating doesn't necessarily equal gaining weight, and vice versa. (58:36) Adipogenesis is the generation of more fat mainly through the addition of new fat cells. (1:09:19) In general, metabolic health is a good marker of future health outcomes. (1:17:58) A diet rich in refined carbohydrates and added fats leads to the production of endotoxins that are easily absorbed. (1:27:46) Visceral fat is a protective mechanism. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

27 Syys 20231h 28min

Part 203 - Dr. Joel Kahn Thinks You Should Go Vegan

Part 203 - Dr. Joel Kahn Thinks You Should Go Vegan

Dr. Joel Kahn is a cardiologist, integrative medicine practitioner and promoter of plant-based nutrition. Having practiced traditional cardiology since 1983, it was only after his own commitment to a plant based vegan diet that he truly began to delve into the realm of non-traditional diagnostic tools, prevention tactics and nutrition-based recovery protocols. These ideologies led him to change his approach and focus on being a holistic cardiologist. https://www.drjoelkahn.com/ GET THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post SHOW NOTES (16:52) According to Dr. Khan, if you suffer from heart disease, consider a plant-based diet based on science. (20:38) We start to develop atherosclerosis in our 20s and 30s. (31:00) We have more than enough data that a human can live through their reproductive years on a huge variety of diets. (47:08) To assess whether or not you're on the right path, assess your own cardiovascular status. (59:54) 30-40% of heart attacks, strokes, and early deaths are due to genetic factors, completely regardless of nutrition and lifestyle. (1:09:50) Examine whether or not your lifestyle is working for you. Don't just assume it is. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

20 Syys 20231h 13min

Part 202 - Stephan Guyenet, PhD on Why Do Humans Overeat?

Part 202 - Stephan Guyenet, PhD on Why Do Humans Overeat?

Stephan J. Guyenet, Ph.D. is an obesity researcher and health writer whose work ties together neuroscience, physiology, evolutionary biology, and nutrition to offer explanations and solutions for our global weight problem. He received a B.S. in biochemistry at the University of Virginia and a Ph.D. in neurobiology at the University of Washington. He is the author of the popular health website, Whole Health Source, and is a frequent speaker on topics of obesity, metabolism, and nutrition. https://www.stephanguyenet.com/about-stephan-guyenet/ BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post SHOW NOTES: (11:16) Our brains determine our food intake and regulate our energy expenditure, in a way that works best in our ancestral environment, but not in our modern environment. (24:33) We consume calories for many reasons, hunger being just one of them. Likewise, satiety is just one of many reasons we stop eating. (34:40) As a rule of thumb, eat a diet of omnivorous whole foods that are lower in calorie density. (49:56) Fiber is not an essential nutrient. (58:35) Nutrient-to-energy is important to health, but once you have adequate intake, there's not much benefit in taking in more. (1:04:46) Most people in the US are more susceptible to obesity than others. Whether or not they actually become obese comes down to the environment they choose. (1:15:31) Blood pressure, on a genetic level, doesn't typically change as one gets older. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

12 Syys 20231h 26min

Part 201 - Brad Kearns on Finding the Holy Grail of Diet & Lifestyle

Part 201 - Brad Kearns on Finding the Holy Grail of Diet & Lifestyle

Brad Kearns, 58, is a New York Times bestselling author, Guinness World Record setting professional Speedgolfer, #1 USA-ranked Masters age 55-59 track & field high jumper in 2020, and former national champion and #3 world-ranked professional triathlete. He has written twenty books on diet, health, peak performance, and ancestral living, and is a popular speaker, retreat host, and face of the Primal Blueprint online multimedia educational courses. In 2017, The Keto Reset Diet became a New York Times bestseller, and briefly ranked as the #1 overall bestselling book on amazon.com. Brad also hosts the B.rad podcast BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post SHOW NOTES: (09:56) We know what's possible. Now let's shoot for optimal. (21:22) Processed foods disrupt our appetite and satiety hormones, prompting us to overeat. (33:02) Injuries are a sign of overdoing it. (40:56) Homo sapiens are built for near-constant everyday movement. (47:38) Always ask "what's optimal" instead of just "what's possible". (59:54) Raw forms of high-toxin natural plant foods is a potentially problematic category of nutrition. (1:08:26) Our main nutritional challenge is energy toxicity. BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

31 Elo 20231h 24min

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