Part 21 - Gabor Erdosi on Food Processing, Hunger Signaling, and the Gut

Part 21 - Gabor Erdosi on Food Processing, Hunger Signaling, and the Gut

Gabor is a food scientist with a masters in molecular biology. He lives in Hungary and is one of these engineers slash scientists who I love talking to who look at nutrition differently. He has a very unique perspective because he works for a big food manufacturer that makes sugary syrups that he believes are harmful. It's rare point of view.

He's spends almost all of his free time researching this stuff to help people understand how bad these processed foods actually are. He has a large community on facebook where he shares and discusses this information. He also has some great presentations he's done you can find online.

We recorded past midnight and I was losing steam at the end and didn't continue the conversation much. He was talking about a really interesting topic though - the adipose centric model of diabetes. For a long time many people have been talking about the insulin-carbohydrate model of diabetes. There's a lot to this subject and we'll get more into it in the coming weeks. I have already recorded an episode covering more of this that will come out next week. It's basically flipping our thoughts of insulin resistance around. The problems occur when you eat more than your personal fat threshold can take - whether it be carbs, fat, or protein. So the problem is your adipose tissue can't properly store all the lipids. People start becoming insulin resistant because of their obesity (or overstuffed and inflamed fat cells), instead of becoming obese from the insulin resistance. This may be super boring and esoteric to some, but for others it will be super interesting. I personally am very into it.

There's a couple weeks left to support the Food Lies film on Indiegogo. Thanks so much - we couldn't do it without you. Listener and crowd support is the only thing powering this film and podcast right now, so I really appreciate it. Now please listen to the wise words of Gabor Erdosi.

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Show Notes

  • Gabor is a food scientist with a masters in molecular biology calling in from Hungary
  • He works for a big food manufacturer making sugary syrups
  • Asked to give a presentation on food processing and the short term metabolic effects
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rcfvRGZsDs
  • Long term negative effects would have included seed oils but they only gave him 35 minutes
  • People says processed carbs are bad but nobody asks why or how
  • He doesn't trust textbooks so he goes to original sources and studies
  • He studied the digestive system, physiology, and mechanisms of how food is digested and the hormone responses
  • If we eat evolutionary appropriate foods like meat, tubers, and berries, for example, the sensors in our small intestine and resulting hormone signaling is fine
  • If we eat flour and ground starches it's very different and not fine
  • But humans have been processing food for all of history? Looks at this with cooking of food vs. raw food, pre-digesting proteins
  • Studies looking at eating a whole apple and a blended apple with all it's pulp (not just the juice which would be different) - more glucose and insulin response to blended apple
  • THings aren't the same once you break down the structure of the plant
  • Questioning nutrition labels because of this
  • After this surge of glucose, insulin dips below baseline a couple hours later and you become hypoglycemic. And then hungry.
  • Studies show this is also when self-reported satiety kicks in
  • As well as ghrelin surge (which is the hunger signaling hormone)
  • Glycemic index and glycemic load can be thought of proxies for how processed something is or "lacking plant structure"
  • This is why we get inconsistent studies when we use observational data using glycemic index or load as a proxy
  • Fiber is a better indicator because usually these people aren't adding back in fiber - it means they are eating whole foods
  • Also if you destroy the plant structure by processing then add fiber back in it's not as good - you already destroyed the structure
  • But some fiber is good that swell when you add them back because they increase the volume and slow the gastric emptying
  • Simple message is it's better to just eat plant foods in their whole form
  • He also says it's safer to just eat animal foods - protein and fat - that don't have these problems when processed
  • Better to eat carbs at the end of the meal
  • Better to eat slowly
  • Rodent studies show they get more obese when they grind the normal chow
  • Rodent studies are poorly done in general because the chow they use is highly processed with no real food ingredients
  • Their synthetic diet also causes dysbiosis in their large intestine
  • Gut permeability and small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO), etc. in humans
  • Sometimes the body needs a small and purposeful inflammation
  • In inflammatory disease it's a chronic inflammation, not acute
  • He does almost all animal foods plus some fruit because of his condition
  • People don't need to cut out all carbs, but it would be smart to do an elimination diet and add foods back in gradually to see what might be causing problems
  • Not everyone needs to do low carb, some report doing very low fat helps type 2 diabetes
  • This greatly reduces the need for insulin which is a partitioning fuel so you can still be pretty healthy even if you're taking in a lot of carbs
  • Needs to be really low though - less than 10% - so very few people can actually pull this off
  • He can't subsist on leaves and flowers and stalks, no thanks
  • Killer combo of fat plus carbohydrate - what's the mechanism?
  • Fat and protein together take longer to digest, don't cause the same big jump in hormonal release, and stimulate the receptors in the lower intestine as well - much more balanced
  • GIP and GLP-1 are incretins - they stimulate your pancreas to release hormones
  • You create an insulin and glucagon imbalance if you stimulate these hormones in an unbalanced way
  • Fasted and fed state and metabolic regulation
  • Sweet spot is to eat 1-3 meals per day
  • Total insulin response lower with bigger meals
  • Studies say best to limit your eating window to max 10 hours
  • Autophagy and letting your body rest
  • Microbiome - all the rage these days
  • Study on mostly plant based diet and carnivore diet and microbiota
  • We still don't know how the microbiome works - just that your diet greatly affects it
  • Rat studies aren't conclusive for humans
  • Problems with how we treat diabetes today - just the symptom, not underlying problem
  • Type 2 diabetes is actually an adipose problem - can't store lipids correctly
  • More gut permeability and inflammation from refined foods
  • The beer belly and visceral fat
  • Tying together mechanisms of fatty liver from alcoholics and non-alcoholic sources
  • Caveman check for foods: animals, berries, tubers, etc., not a wheat field
  • Out of season fruit study with rats - not good to eat out of season it seems
  • The answer to health is to reject the modern processed foods - both vegetarian/pecatarian and carnivore/keto/paleo people are doing that
  • He's going to be doing some more work with organizations soon to spread his learnings
  • He has a closed Facebook group that is really active and interesting called Lower Insulin https://www.facebook.com/groups/198981013851366/

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Part 153 - Dr. Michael Ruscio on All Things Gut Health

Part 153 - Dr. Michael Ruscio on All Things Gut Health

I had a great talk with Dr. Michael Ruscio today on all things gut health! Dr. Ruscio is Doctor of Natural Medicine, Doctor of Chiropractic, clinical researcher and author [1, 2]. His work has been published in peer-reviewed medical journals and he is a committee member of the Naturopathic Board of Gastroenterology research division. His high quality probiotics: https://store.drruscio.com/?rfsn=6444749.3a233de

30 Maalis 20221h 10min

Part 152 - Josh Trent on the 5th Pillar of Health

Part 152 - Josh Trent on the 5th Pillar of Health

I usually talk about the 4 pillars of health which I focus on most - diet, sleep, a form of exercise, and sun/outdoors. Josh has been studying what I'm calling the 5th pillar which is the mind/body/spirit stuff that includes stress, breathing, emotional intelligence, etc. I had a great time recording this with him at his home in Austin. We did an hour in the sauna and a cold plunge afterwards!   Josh Trent is the Founder of Wellness Force Media, host of the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast and the creator of the BREATHE a Breath & Wellness Program.   Josh has spent the past 19+ years as a trainer, researcher, and facilitator discovering the physical and emotional intelligence for humans to thrive in our modern world.   Josh and Wellness Force Media Mission is to help humans heal mental, emotional and physical health through podcasts, programs, and a global community that believes in optimizing our potential to live life well.   Josh has dedicated his life to supporting humanity coming together as one.   GET THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE http://sapien.org     SHOW NOTES [1:28] - Josh's Background and journey to Wellness Force  [8:15] - Brian's asks Josh to help us understand the spiritual, mental and emotional side of well-being  [22:00] - The Art, Science and Technique  of Breathwork [35:16] - How Past Trauma and Breathwork are related [44:45] - Tips for better breathing posture  [50:30] - The Beginning, Middle and End of Breathwork [57:00] - Looking at Breathwork through an Ancestral Lense [1:01:10] - Josh and Brian's thought son Psychedelics [1:10:00] - The trap of being uncomfortable in our modern life [1:15:45] - What the BREATHE: Breathe and Wellness program and Why Breathwork is so powerful to Josh   GET THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE http://sapien.org   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

24 Maalis 20221h 29min

Part 151 - Dr. Nick Nwabuaze (The Fittest Doc) Practical Strategies to Improve your Health & Body

Part 151 - Dr. Nick Nwabuaze (The Fittest Doc) Practical Strategies to Improve your Health & Body

Dr. Nwabueze is a board-certified Family Medicine physician who focuses on helping his patients fix the root cause of their stress and poor health. He completed medical school at the Ohio State University College of Medicine and finished his internship and residency at Adventist Hinsdale Hospital in Illinois. He currently uses a mix of resistance training, nutrition coaching, and lifestyle management to form long term relationships with his clients, improving their overall health and happiness through Steady MD, using the Direct Primary Care modality. Find him on Instagram and other social media platforms @thefittestdoc GET THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDEhttp://sapien.org SHOW NOTES [1:45] - Dr. Nick's Background and Beginning [5:52] - Brian and Nick's thoughts on "Movement is Medicine" [10:50] - How Movement plays into Fat Loss [19:45] - How everything that we put our body through (food, exercise, work) is all stress and how we hormetically get stronger and fitter long-term [23:30] - How and why you should measure Body Composition [32:30] - Brian and Nick's Workout Routines [43:25] - Nick's Mindset on Diet and Nutrition [51:25] - How Dr. Nick works though obesity, obese clients, and mainstream views around obesity [1:21:00] - How Dr. Nick practices medicine with SteadyMD and why he loves it Reach Nick here on SteadyMD GET THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDEhttp://sapien.org Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg http://youtube.com/c/foodlies

4 Maalis 20221h 30min

Part 150 - Richard Perkins on the True Diet of Our Ancestors and Replicating this in Sweden

Part 150 - Richard Perkins on the True Diet of Our Ancestors and Replicating this in Sweden

Richard Perkins is a worldwide leader in the regenerative agriculture space, an author, educator, and farmer. He lives in Sweden with his family on a holistically managed and integrated farm producing a variety of animal and plant foods for his family and community. His practices have taught him how humans must have provided food for themselves for the lion's share of history. From his decades of experience combined with the scientific literature and other accounts around the world, it's apparent they were eating locally & seasonally and relying on nose to tail animal nutrition for the majority of their calories. Please enjoy this episode! GET THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE http://sapien.org   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

1 Maalis 20221h 33min

Part 149 - Chris Masterjohn, PhD on Analyzing the Hidden Data You're Not Hearing About

Part 149 - Chris Masterjohn, PhD on Analyzing the Hidden Data You're Not Hearing About

23 Helmi 20221h 25min

Part 148 - Dr. Chris Palmer on Incredible Cases of Diet & Lifestyle Reversing Depression, Bipolar, and Schizophrenia

Part 148 - Dr. Chris Palmer on Incredible Cases of Diet & Lifestyle Reversing Depression, Bipolar, and Schizophrenia

In this episode, I had a wonderful conversation with Dr. Chris Palmer who uses diet and lifestyle changes to improve the lives of people suffering from mental and metabolic illness. As you'll learn in the show, there is a metabolic component of many mental health conditions.   Dr. Palmer has been exploring dietary changes, like the ketogenic diet, as treatment for conditions such as schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and depression. He shares some amazing and inspiring stories that need to be shared with the world if we want to see meaningful changes to our medical system!   Dr. Palmer has been involved in psychiatric research for over 23 years. He received his medical degree from Washington University School of Medicine. He did his internship and psychiatry residency at McLean Hospital, Massachusetts General Hospital, and Harvard Medical School. He is currently the Director of the Department of Postgraduate and Continuing Education at McLean Hospital and an Assistant Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School.   He has been pioneering the use of the ketogenic diet as a treatment for psychiatric disorders. This is an evidence-based treatment for epilepsy, and epilepsy treatments are commonly used in psychiatry. Additionally, the ketogenic diet has profound effects on brain metabolism that may correct some of the metabolic abnormalities often found in people with mental disorders. He is working with researchers from around the world to assess the effectiveness of this treatment in real people and better understand its mechanisms of action.   Check out his website! - https://www.chrispalmermd.com   DISCLAIMER: The opinions and information provided here by Dr. Chris Palmer and Brian Sanders are not to be taken as medical advice.     SHOW NOTES [3:30] The ketogenic diet and alcoholism [10:30] The ketogenic diet is an evidence-based treatment for epilepsy [13:40] Dr. Chris Palmer's background and personal story [21:40] Why diet works when other treatments fail [26:40] Long-standing psychiatric symptoms resolving with Keto [33:10] Metabolic flexibility and mental health [37:00] Why there's no one-size-fits-all diet [40:40] What happens when patients return to their old habits? [46:00] Treating epilepsy and bipolar disorder with keto [53:40] Mental disorders are metabolic disorders of the brain [57:40] Regular exercise is important, but not enough [1:01:40] Why isn't exercise enough for some people? [1:07:40] Depression is skyrocketing – can diet sometimes help? [1:13:00] Depression and comfort foods [1:15:40] Dr. Chris Palmer is working on a book!   GET THE MEAT! http://NosetoTail.org  GET THE FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE! http://Sapien.org  Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg  http://instagram.com/food.lies  http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

22 Joulu 20211h 20min

Part 147 - An Insider's Look at Public Health Guidelines and the Medical System - Dr. Chris Dan and Dr. Gary Shlifer

Part 147 - An Insider's Look at Public Health Guidelines and the Medical System - Dr. Chris Dan and Dr. Gary Shlifer

In this episode, I sat down with Dr. Chris Dan and Dr. Gary Shlifer to talk about the shortcomings of the medical system and current public health guidelines. Both of them have experienced frustration with the modern medical system, especially as it relates to the pandemic and the prevention of chronic disease.   We discuss the chaotic and confusing public health guidelines over the past 2 years as well as the importance of metabolic health on our immune health. Dr. Chris Dan exposes some of the biggest problems with the healthcare system and explains why he left the hospital.   Dr. Chris Dan is currently a family medicine board certified physician who worked as a full time Hospitalist in Los Angeles County for the past four years. He completed his undergraduate degree at UCI and studied medicine at Western University of Health Sciences in Pomona. During his time as an inpatient physician, he saw the shortcomings of the current medical system in prevention of chronic disease and will be moving on to work outpatient with a focus on returning people to metabolic health.   Dr. Gary Shlifer is a board-certified internal medicine physician specializing in preventative care, nutrition/metabolism and anti-aging medicine. Dr. Gary brings his robust experienced with hospital inpatient medicine to his outpatient primary care practice in order to help prevent and cure disease in his patients. He is the founder of Evolve Healthcare in Los Angeles, a multi-specialty integrative medicine clinic focused on disease prevention and lifestyle optimization.     SHOW NOTES [7:20] Dr. Chris Dan's background [10:50] The problems with inpatient medicine [17:10] Why the medical system is a numbers game [23:10] Chaotic & confusing pandemic guidelines [27:10] Why generic drugs are discouraged [32:40] How COVID affected healthcare workers [39:40] The corporate & bureaucratic structure of healthcare [44:10 Healthcare doesn't make money on healthy people [49:40] The "diabetes diet" in hospitals [54:30] Why Dr. Chris Dan left the hospital [59:50] What's the biggest problem in healthcare? [1:03:10] What you should do if you don't want to burden the healthcare system   GET THE MEAT! http://NosetoTail.org  GET THE FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE! http://Sapien.org  Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg  http://instagram.com/food.lies  http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

15 Joulu 20211h 9min

Part 146 - How a Norwegian Farmer Changed the Mind of the World's Most Powerful Anti-Meat Activist

Part 146 - How a Norwegian Farmer Changed the Mind of the World's Most Powerful Anti-Meat Activist

Today's episode features a farmer from Norway named Raymund. Raymund is truly a hero because he hosted Dr. Gunhild A. Stordalen at his farm where he educated her on the benefits that animal agriculture can have on our ecosystem. Dr. Gunhild A. Stordalen is a very well known environmental activist and the founder of EAT which recommends a mere 14 grams of red meat per day as part of a "Planetary Health Diet."   As you'll learn in this episode, Raymund convinced her that meat and animal agriculture are a sustainable and essential part of our food system. Throughout this episode, we discuss many of the problems with our modern food system. In fact, Raymund runs a decentralized food system in Norway called REKO which connects farmers directly to customers. We are hoping to bring something similar to Texas and eventually all over the United States.   Learn more at https://www.sovereignhumans.org     SHOW NOTES: [6:15] How Raymund knows Gunhild Stordalen of EAT Lancet [10:30] Meat is required for a healthy diet and planet [15:00] What Raymund told Gunhild Stordalen [20:35] Problems with the Planetary Diet [26:40] How consumerism is wasteful [30:20] Why big corporations hate a decentralized food system [37:00] Our changing food & spending habits [40:00] The industrial farming of salmon [43:50] Why raising pigs is so difficult [47:00] How Raymond built a sustainable farm [53:30] Why you should spend more on food and less elsewhere [56:30] Everyone needs their own farmer, not their own doctor [1:01:20] How cities destroyed our food system [1:06:30] Our modern food system is a failed experiment [1:12:45] Vote with your dollar by eating local   GET THE MEAT! http://NosetoTail.org  GET THE FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE! http://Sapien.org    Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg  http://instagram.com/food.lies  http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

8 Joulu 20211h 16min

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