Part 36 - Dr. Mark Cucuzzella & Zach Bitter on Fat Adapted Running, Fine Tuning Your Body, and Helping the Community

Part 36 - Dr. Mark Cucuzzella & Zach Bitter on Fat Adapted Running, Fine Tuning Your Body, and Helping the Community

Today we have a double header with 2 great figures as well as athletes in the low carb community.

Zach Bitter is the 100 mile American record holder and 12 hour world record holder for ultramarathons. He hosts the Human Performance Outliers podcast with Dr. Shawn Baker and has learned many lessons from amazing people along the way. He has wealth of knowledge of fat adapted athletics and fueling himself with meat while healing his body.

But first we have Dr. Mark Cucuzzella who is a Professor of Medicine at West Virginia University medical school, Fellow of the American Academy of Family Physicians, a Family physician for 20 years, and a Lt Col in the US Air Force Reserves. He's doing such great work in his hospital and community and has implemented some very beneficial programs. He's a great guy and was a big supporter of the film early on.

He brings up that Zach Bitter was actually in the FASTER study that previous podcast guest Dr. Jeff Volek famously did that rewrote the textbooks on fat oxidation. Lot's of good stuff her beyond running!

Thanks again for helping us finish the Indiegogo campaign. We hit our goal, but that certainly wasn't the amount needed to finish the film. You can still preorder a copy of Food Lies on Indiegogo by clicking through FoodLies.org. Get the limited edition Eat Meat shirt there and check out the other perks - that's at FoodLies.org.

A quick update about me - I just started training for a Decathlon at UCLA. I'm going to do it running on meat and fat. Many of you probably saw the video of me pole vaulting for the first time in over 16 years on social media. This is going to be awesome. Everyone there thinks I'm insane for doing it at 35 while never having done most of the events before, let alone all of them in 2 days at the Masters Championships in Iowa. Also the mostly eating meat, fish, and eggs thing is really tripping them out. Follow along on social media. Also I'll have a totally unrelated big announcement in the upcoming weeks. Stay tuned - I'm very excited. Now here's Mark and Zach.

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Show notes

Zach Bitter

  • Hosts the Human Performance Outliers podcast with Dr. Shawn Baker
  • He holds the 100 mile American record with an average pace of 7 minutes per mile
  • He also holds the world record for farthest distance run in 12 hours
  • He spent the first half of his running career on the conventional high carb diet that all runners believe is best
  • He followed a whole foods approach with lots of whole grains, fruits, and vegetables - no processed foods or junk food
  • At age 24/25 he was having some bad symptoms that shouldn't face a young man in his prime
  • He wasn't sleeping well, he didn't have sustained energy throughout the day, and had poor recovery after workouts
  • He looked towards nutrition as a cure and found the low carb, high fat diet
  • Got turned on to Dr. Phinney and Dr. Volek early on so he had a solid approach to transitioning into fat-adaptation correctly
  • He transitioned in the off-season and sleep and energy immediately improved
  • Recovery and mobility greatly improved after races once fat-adapted
  • What are some other sports where it's good to be fat-adapted?
  • It seems to be dependent on how soon you're going to train again. If it's only once per day it seems carbs aren't really necessary. 2 sessions per day, probably yes.
  • He only needs carbs when doing intensity plus high volume. Either one separately he doesn't.
  • How he got into the carnivore world
  • He's done 73 podcast episodes with various experts and has learned a lot
  • 2 big things are that vegetables aren't really necessary it seems and there's a lot of myths about protein that are turning out to not be true. There's probably no such thing as too much protein
  • My ultra simplistic theory is that animal foods are +1, processed foods are -1, and plant foods are just neutral (or 0). Plant foods aren't doing much for you other than taking up space in your stomach from things that could be worse. The real nutrition is from the animal foods.
  • He agrees with this and builds his meals around fatty meat, eggs, and some full fat dairy
  • He ferments his own vegetables
  • If you have digestive problems try doing only animal foods and add stuff back in slowly and carefully to track it
  • Hunter gatherers used to eat (and still do) fermented plant matter out of animal's stomachs, especially in cold environments when that was their only vegetation
  • Check out the HPO podcast he does with Shawn Baker
  • Zach does running and nutrition coaching - find him at zachbitter.com
  • He's on twitter at twitter.com/zbitter and Instagram at instagram.com/zachbitter


Mark Cucuzzella

SHOW NOTES

  • Mark is a doctor in West Virginia doing great things for his community and grew up as a runner
  • He's appeared in a lot of big news articles and news segments over the years https://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/06/magazine/running-christopher-mcdougall.html
  • https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6112350
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1dyKDrkABc
  • His website https://www.drmarksdesk.com
  • He recently wrote the book Run For Your Life which I've read and recommend to any runner https://www.amazon.com/Run-Your-Life-Without-Well-Being/dp/110194630X/
  • He created the Efficient Running Project for the US Air Force https://www.drmarksdesk.com/usaf-efficient-running
  • He almost made the olympic trials for the marathon but was plagued by injuries and almost quit before taking health into his own hands and also running barefoot or almost barefoot
  • He was able to keep running and has a streak of 30 years of under a 3 hour marathon
  • He opened a running store and has organized tons of runs & events for adults and kids and got the community a lot more active
  • He bought into the low fat high carb diet HUGE waking up at 2am eating more cereal he was so hungry
  • He was in charge of figuring out why people in the Air Force kept failing the fitness tests
  • This was in 2002 and he saw the Gary Taubes article What if it's All Been a Big Fat Lie? https://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/07/magazine/what-if-it-s-all-been-a-big-fat-lie.html
  • As a doctor he always has learned from his patients. He asked auditoriums full of recruits who has lost 50 pounds or more and kept it off for a year? The only answer was "I gave up bread, or I gave up soda, or I did Paleo, or I did Atkins"
  • He also is a professor at WVU writing papers, etc.
  • He started a program at his hospital that removed all sugary drinks
  • 80% of people in a hospital have insulin resistance and/or metabolic syndrome why would we be giving them a toxin like sugar?
  • The staff supported him in this after getting healthier and losing weight by cutting sugar and carbs
  • He helped get double dollars for food stamps at the farmers market https://youtu.be/k5zptL5c9mI
  • #1 thing purchased with food stamps (now called SNAP) in America is soda!!
  • He's also starting programs to help people make better choices at dollar stores
  • I think "food deserts" are a myth. It's just information. You don't need fresh fruit and veg to be healthy. You can get meat, eggs, and canned fish anywhere in America within a few blocks
  • Food industry and advertisements are working against us
  • EAT Lancet debunking
  • His blog post on this http://naturalrunningcenter.com/2019/01/27/eatlancet/
  • He's part of the Nutrition Coalition with Nina Teicholz
  • I grew up running barefoot in Hawaii
  • Human evolution and persistence hunting
  • Daniel Lieberman comes up again who's the Harvard professor I had an unpleasant call with
  • Running shouldn't be about burning calories it should be about being efficient
  • His comprehensive article on fat adapted running http://naturalrunningcenter.com/2017/02/19/simple-food-rules-2/
  • Zach was actually part of the FASTER study by Phinney and Volek https://www.metabolismjournal.com/article/S0026-0495(15)00334-0/abstract
  • The textbooks say humans can only oxidize 0.8 grams per minute but in the study they doubled that. Dr. Mark did it himself and measured 2.0 grams of fat/min
  • HIs heart rate dropped down significantly after only 1 minute because he is in such good shape and running so efficiently on fat - great for recovery
  • If you're a medical professional and would like to make changes in your community or otherwise you can contact him at afrundoc@gmail.com
  • Dr. Eric Westman is a great doctor doing low carb for decades with his patients and having great success https://www.dukehealth.org/find-doctors-physicians/eric-c-westman-md-mhs
  • http://DietDoctor.com
  • Dr. Robert Lustig's "The Complete Skinny on Obesity" https://youtu.be/moQZd1-BC0Y
  • Even though the campaign is over you can still preorder the film and get the great perks

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Part 161 - Dr. Frederic Leroy Unravels 100 years of the Anti-Meat Agenda

Part 161 - Dr. Frederic Leroy Unravels 100 years of the Anti-Meat Agenda

Specializing in the science and application of animal foods in society and nutrition, Dr. Frederic Leroy is a food scientist, technologist and professor at the University of Brussels. With a dense background in peer-reviewed journals, academic boards, and nonprofits, Dr. Leroy currently is an advocate for a deeper, more nuanced discussion of the importance of animal products, an understanding our our historic relationships with them, and the current war against them in western cultures. Frederic's Twitter Page Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/lKGeRAB-K3E Dr. Leroy's slides: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1z7l1vmwCWPnHbyS4BVP-1dx6Jo46dP_a/view?usp=sharing GET THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE http://sapien.org SHOW NOTES [4:10] - Brian and Frederic discuss how the overall health of a society relates to diet and nutrition and how modern fake food plays into them [12:15] - How fake meat corporations are trying to make animal agriculture industry disappear [15:30] - Our connection to butchering, modern animal butchering and how they play into our separation to our ancient ways of living [26:50] - Diving into sensationalism in DailyMail articles since 2000 around Meat [32:50]- Why nuance and context always matters when speaking about foods and specifically meat [35:50] - Do we need meat? Is it fundamental to health? [47:20] - How meat, animal foods, and our relationships to animals provided security for hunter-gatherer communities interactions with animals is changing: slaughtering, butchering, consumption [1:108:30] - The hierarchy of our modern society and the agendas to form mobs, embrace authority, and subvert power [1:22:00] - How our view of death has changed and its role in our our view of meat/animal products [1:29:00] - How to have a societal and individual relationships with animals that are healthy for you, the community and the earth GET THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE http://sapien.org Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

1 Kesä 20221h 47min

Part 160 - Kara Collier on Optimal Health Through Blood Sugar Regulation

Part 160 - Kara Collier on Optimal Health Through Blood Sugar Regulation

Kara Collier is a Registered Dietician Nutritionist and a co-founder of Nutri-Sense, currently leading their team of dieticians to using their continuous glucose monitoring systems to help individuals properly manage their glucose and metabolism. She graduated from Purdue University, previously worked at the Memphis VA medical center as a clinical dietician at Providence Hospital and in a management role at Nutritionix   Use code "PeakHuman" at Nutrisense for $25 off a CGM     GET THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE http://sapien.org   SHOW NOTES [0:30] - Kara details her past and what motivated her to get involved with healthcare, metabolic health and Nutrisense and [5:00] - How using a continuous glucose monitor can increase your awareness of how foods affect your glucose levels, energy, mood etc. [14:30] - How your body adapts to lower levels of carbohydrates in diet and its effects [16:30] - Detailing glucose and its role in metabolism [20:30] - What is a Continuous Glucose Monitor, what it tells you and who might benefit from using it [25:05] - Why Hemoglobin A1c is not the only indicator of your metabolic health and what can make those results less reliable [34:15] - Why its very hard and uncommon for the traditional healthcare system to prescribe beneficial testing as preventative care [41:10] - Lipids, LDL, HDL, Trigs and how their levels affect overall health [48:15] - Lifestyle factors and basic nutrition guidelines to maximize glucose response and metabolic health [58:00] - How Sleep and Alcohol affect glucose response and health [1:11:00] - How larger meals, like an OMAD format, affects your glucose response and metabolism [1:16:00] - Do we know if eating a bunch of fruit and sugar is good/bad?   BUY THE MEAT NosetoTail.org Support me on Patreon! http://patreon.com/peakhuman Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post   Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

25 Touko 20221h 24min

Part 159 - Patrick Theut on the Miraculous Reversal of Heart Disease

Part 159 - Patrick Theut on the Miraculous Reversal of Heart Disease

Patrick Theut is a biochemist and engineer who has successfully managed to reverse his coronary artery disease. He has invested over 16,000 hours of study into the cause of heart disease. He has developed theories and protocols on how this disease is developed, how to stop it from progressing, and protocols to even reverse it. Vitamin K Website The ancestral health & events center in East Austin is getting closer to becoming a reality! Email Brian at hi@foodlies.org to get involved. We're looking for anyone from members to investors! GET THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE http://sapien.org SHOW NOTES [3:50] - Patrick details his life-changing scare with a high Coronary Artery Calcium score [14:04] - Why he thinks a MMR jab negatively affected his life [24:30] - Patrick's mission to get high quality vitamin K to solve his heart disease [29:45] - Why Patrick thinks that conventional western medicine doesn't routinely test for CAC and other root cause issues [40:00] - A breakdown of Fats, Lipids, hormonal health, and the importance of LDL [57:50] - Brian and Patrick Discuss healthy diet and lifestyle factors [1:20:00] - What to do once your get a CAC score [1:27:45] - The "hydra" of heart disease GET THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE http://sapien.org Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

18 Touko 20221h 40min

Part 158 - Dr. Tyna Moore on The Secrets to Living a Long & Pain-Free Life

Part 158 - Dr. Tyna Moore on The Secrets to Living a Long & Pain-Free Life

11 Touko 20221h 8min

Part 157 - Jessica Thompson, PhD on How Eating Animal Fat & Marrow Made Us Human

Part 157 - Jessica Thompson, PhD on How Eating Animal Fat & Marrow Made Us Human

Specializing in human evolution and the aspects revealed through the analysis of ancient animal bones, Jessica Thomspon is a leading voice in paleo-anthropology, evolutionary theory and hunter-gatherer ethnography. She is a professor at Yale University and also leads the Malawi ancient Lifeways and Peoples Project in Malawi, in central Africa, to develop and interpret the evolutionary history in the area during the last Ice Age. Jessica thompson PhD website: https://campuspress.yale.edu/jcthompson/ The ancestral health & events center in East Austin is getting closer to becoming a reality! Email Brian at hi@foodlies.org to get involved. We're looking for anyone from members to investors! GET THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE http://sapien.org SHOW NOTES: [0:30] - Dr. Jessica speaks about getting back on campus at Yale University and her specialties research in the field of anthropology [5:40] - Jessica's take on where and when we started as a human species [10:10] - What is the difference in diet, structure, etc. between humans and primates split around 7+ million years ago? [16:40] - Diving deep into tool marks on bones and what we can learn from them [24:40] - Jessica shares her opinion on the nuance of why our evolutionary adaptations that make us human occurred [36:10] - Did protein or fat change human evolution? [55:22] - The importance that megafauna played in our evolution and how they played into cooperation and competition in populations [57:05] - Jessica shares her thoughts on adaptations to the type of energy we consume such as milk, fat, etc. as it relates to the genes/skills that get passed down [1:01:00] - The massive shift in our modern diet in the short time frame, causing massive implications in long-term health [1:09:19] - Jessica weighs in on the role of animal products on evolution and our current health [1:17:30] - Jessica's thoughts on longevity and biological anthropology GET THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE http://sapien.org Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

27 Huhti 20221h 37min

Part 156 - Keith Norris on Becoming Healthy & Free in Our Crazy Modern World

Part 156 - Keith Norris on Becoming Healthy & Free in Our Crazy Modern World

Keith Norris is an author, speaker, and the founder of Paleo f(x), the world's premier holistic wellness event, covering health, nutrition, spirituality, entrepreneurship and everything in between, which is happening on the 29th of April  through May 1st.    BUY ONE, GET ONE FREE TICKETS   He and his wife also recently wrote a book, Primal Uprising, The Paleo f(x) Guide to Optimizing Your Health, Expanding Your Mind, and Reclaiming Your Freedom Keith and Michelle's book Primal Uprising  Paleo f(x) tickets and teaser video   GET THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE http://sapien.org   SHOW NOTES: [0:00] - Brian and Keith catch up and chat about when they first met and Paleo f(x) [10:02] - Keith speaks his mind on living in "bubbles" and the different types that exist in areas, the ideologies that go along with it and Brian's own bubbles [14:40] - Neuro Linguistic Programming - what it is and how to use it for more success [23:15] - Willpower, Nutrient Density, Anthropology and Vegetarianism  [47:30] - Redpilling, Food Guidelines, and Effective thinking  [1:01:00] - Censorship and confronting the establishment by beginning with yourself     GET THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE http://sapien.org   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

20 Huhti 20221h 19min

Part 155 - Dr. Malcolm Kendrick on The True Cause of Heart Disease? The Unifying Theory

Part 155 - Dr. Malcolm Kendrick on The True Cause of Heart Disease? The Unifying Theory

Dr. Malcolm Kendrick is a General Practitioner in Medicine from Scotland, and focuses the bulk of his research and writing on cholesterol, atherosclerosis, stress, and the myths around them. He is an outspoken critic of the cholesterol focus of heart disease, overprescription of medications, and the dirty plays of statistics that some doctors use to increase their gains at the expense of their patients and general population. He is the author of three books, The Clot Thickens, Doctoring Data, and The Cholesterol Con, and runs the website drmalcolmkendrick.org GET THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE http://sapien.org SHOW NOTES: [0:50] - Brian and Malcolm chat about Malcolm recent book, The Clot Thickens, and a brief overview of heart disease, its history and Malcolm's thoughts on it [10:01] - Malcolm details the nuance of atherosclerosis, endothelial cells, and damage to blood vessels [19:40] - Malcolm's thoughts on using LDL as a risk factor for cardiovascular events [31:20] - Myths and facts around cholesterol and its role in physiology [36:00] - Diving deep into Malcolm's thrombogenic hypothesis of heart disease, blood clots and endothelial pathology, Sickle Cell disease and Diabetes [59:21] - Nitric oxide, how it's benefits were found and how to increase it [1:04:21] - How stress correlates to increased risk of cardiovascular disease [1:08:45] - Malcolm's thoughts on lifestyle, diet, and relationships that help or hurt your chances of adverse cardiovascular events [1:14:30] - How Malcolm's thoughts on these topics have changed or cumulated over the years GET THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE http://sapien.org Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

13 Huhti 20221h 23min

Part 154 - Zoe Harcombe PhD on the Upside Down World of Health Policy

Part 154 - Zoe Harcombe PhD on the Upside Down World of Health Policy

Zoe Harcombe, PhD is a researcher, author, blogger and public speaker in the field of diet and health. Her areas of interest/expertise are public health dietary guidelines (especially dietary fat), nutrition and obesity. She regularly is interviewed on TV, radio, newspapers and magazines.   She has a BA and MA from Cambridge University (economics/maths) as well as a Ph.D. in public health nutrition. Her thesis title was "An examination of the randomised controlled trial and epidemiological evidence for the introduction of dietary fat recommendations in 1977 and 1983: A systematic review and meta-analysis." The full document is available to site members here.   Zoe has also offered 50% a year membership to her amazing website where you get all of her articles. My listeners can use this code PH2204 https://www.zoeharcombe.com/register/membership-annual   GET THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE http://sapien.org   SHOW NOTES [1:30] - Zoe's background and why she wrote her thesis on the lack of evidence for the introduction of food guidelines [4:30] - Cutting calories and why it doesn't work to focus on it  [10:40] - Brian asks Zoe how to properly lose fat [16:30] - Zoe's take on low carb and what she thinks we should be eating  [27:40] - Zoe's take on animal vs plant foods in relation to nutrition and protein content [39:30] - Zoe's take on the Food Pyramid and how we got into this awful situation  [50:05] - Power dynamics in society and how it relates to our approach towards kids' health in western societies [1:07:40] - Zoe's thoughts on the World Health Organization and The Great Reset [1:20:50] - How this conversation ties into the ostracisation on red meat and the organizations behind it   GET THE MEAT http://NosetoTail.org FREE SAPIEN FOOD GUIDE http://sapien.org   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

7 Huhti 20221h 30min

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