Part 37 - Sally Norton, MPH on Oxalates, Plants Hurting Your Health, and Never Eating Spinach Again

Part 37 - Sally Norton, MPH on Oxalates, Plants Hurting Your Health, and Never Eating Spinach Again

Sally Norton has a degree in nutrition from Cornell University and a Masters of Public Health from the UNiversity of North Carolina. She managed a five-year, National Institute of Health-funded program at the UNC Medical School. She's a nutrition consultant, speaker, and an all around oxalate expert.

This is a sad story with a happy ending. Sally's life goal from age 5 was to study nutrition and help people be healthy. She followed all the traditional advice and ate a very plant-heavy vegetarian and even vegan diet only to have 30 years of health problems because of that diet.

At first all this oxalate stuff is hard to believe. It's talked about so little and there's not a lot of mainstream knowledge on it in the medical community. We talk some real science a little ways into the episode, so know it's coming. Also for people who may be skeptical of how bad oxalates are you can go to the vegan site veganhealth.org/oxalate and see the comprehensive mile-long list of problems and warnings about oxalates. Yes, a vegan site warning about plant food dangers. This is not some wacky carnivore idea people.

I just started a Patreon for this podcast. I really want to keep this ad-free and I'm getting multiple offers for sponsorships. This is a huge amount of work I do completely on my own and I don't think I have the bandwidth to keep it up much longer. I'll spare you the details of how many hours it takes me weekly to put it out, but just know it's way more than you think. I'll continue keeping this a high quality and from what I've heard valuable resource for people if I can get the support of the community. We are a tribe and everyone does their part to keep things moving. I appreciate all the messages I get that help keep me motivated when the hours get long. Even people's suggestions on guests really help. This episode was possible from 1 or 2 listeners who kept mentioning Sally and her work. Thanks so much for supporting me in all my efforts. This will allow me to keep putting out content on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube as well. Please go to Patreon.com/peakhuman and become a member of the tribe there. Just a couple dollars a month really helps. You can also get more perks like extended show notes and bonus content we're just beginning to put out or an invite to the private Slack group. That's http://Patreon.com/peakhuman Thanks in advance, and here's Sally Norton.

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SHOW NOTES

  • Sally had a lifelong quest to be in the nutrition and wellness space
  • Despite eating plant-based diets all her life and focusing on what she thought was good nutrition, she had major health problems
  • Some books convinced her to vegan and soon she could barely walk up and down stairs and got pneumonia multiple times per year
  • She finally figured out it was the build up of oxalated from all the plants foods she was eating
  • She published a great paper "Lost Seasonality and Overconsumption of Plants: Risking Oxalate Toxicity" https://jevohealth.com/journal/vol2/iss3/4/
  • How come she has all this training and she didn't know a thing about oxalates?
  • We actually knew about oxalates in the 1700s and 1800s
  • Populations like the Irish drank a lot of tea, ate a lot of potatoes, had greens in season, and rhubarb in the spring - all of these have high oxalate
  • Spinach and whole grains have a lot of oxalate
  • They did tests on rats to see calcium absorption of and we saw that spinach wasn't delivering calcium - same for iron and folate
  • The nutrients also degrade quickly unless the spinach is kept very cold the entire time after harvest (which is basically impossible)
  • All USDA data on nutrition in plant foods are wrong and don't account for bioavailability
  • Nutrients drop significantly in spinach after harvest, especially when not refrigerated to a very cold 4 degrees celsius
  • More and more people are heading towards mostly animal foods as they learn about bioavailability and antinutrients and listen to their body
  • The carnivore movement has been great to just let people know it's ok to eat only animal foods
  • World War 1 is when we started relying on fallback plant foods she thinks. We invented the idea of the victory garden
  • I was out with a girl from Peru who was laughing at Americans for eating green vegetables - the mainly eat meat, fish, and starches.
  • She talks about why we even think vegetables are so great in the first place
  • Our natural state is now a diseased state
  • Biggest current problems are toxicity and deficiency
  • High oxalate foods: nuts, seeds, brassica veg, potatoes, some berries
  • If doctors don't have a remedy for it, you don't have a disease
  • Calcium is being blamed for what oxalates are doing
  • Science behind oxalates
  • Range of oxalate poisoning that could kill you is 3.5 grams - 30 grams
  • A guy died of oxalate poisoning from sorrel soup
  • Cases of people with permanent kidney damage from juice/smoothie cleanses
  • Kidney disease is on the rise faster than anything in the last few decades
  • There's so many other toxins your kidney needs to deal with these days besides the oxalate
  • She's read about 3,000 studies and articles on oxalate over the last 4.5 years of research
  • Oxalates travel all over the body before going through your kidney to be detoxified
  • Even vegan sites warn about the enormous problem of oxalates https://veganhealth.org/oxalate/
  • Whole system is skewed supporting plants foods
  • Researchers aren't doctors don't have time or aren't curious enough or can't get funding to do all this research
  • She's had major foot problems most of her life due to oxalates and it kind of ruined her career
  • Susan Owens has great data on oxalate accumulation http://lowoxalate.info
  • Clive Solomons and the Pain Project http://www.thevpfoundation.org/effective_treatment.htm
  • Comprehensive oxalate charts http://lowoxalate.info/recipes.html
  • USDA food charts don't account for bioavailability and 10-15% of the data is just wrong
  • A lot of oxalate problems are determined by how much is getting through the intestinal tract and how compromised it is / what problems you have like IBS, etc.
  • If you're constantly getting low doses of oxalate your immune system is constantly cleaning it up so you won't really see any major problems… but that's not good at all
  • We need to eat seasonally for a real reason - to give our body a break from different foods that may be giving us problems if eaten in excess
  • Herbivores evolved differently to be able to handle oxalates
  • Even these can die if they are stuck somewhere where they only have access to high oxalate food
  • She's working on some proposals and a book
  • Her site is http://sallyknorton.com
  • Her Instagram is http://instagram.com/sknorton

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Part 223 – Mark Sisson on Metabolic Flexibility, Alcohol, Fiber, and the Real Secrets to Longevity

Part 223 – Mark Sisson on Metabolic Flexibility, Alcohol, Fiber, and the Real Secrets to Longevity

Mark Sisson, 72 and still shredded, returns to Peak Human for a powerful conversation on what real healthspan looks like — not chasing 180 years with futuristic tech, but thriving into your 90s with energy, strength, and vitality. As the founder of the Primal Blueprint, Mark brings decades of wisdom on metabolic flexibility, minimalist training, and practical ancestral living. In this episode, Brian and Mark discuss how to optimize metabolism, how to train smarter (not harder), the real deal with fiber, alcohol, hydration, and carbs — and why metabolic flexibility is the key to enjoying life without strict rules, guilt, or orthorexia. Try the oyster pills! https://nosetotail.org/products/pure-oyster Show Notes: 02:00 The Primal Blueprint and 25 Years of Low Carb Living 04:00 Minimum Effective Dose – Why Mark Hates Overtraining 11:30 Redefining Metabolic Flexibility 14:00 Burning Carbs and Fat – The Joy of Not Being Rigid 18:00 Why Unsustainable Diets Always Fail 20:30 The European Bread Exception – Healing the Gut for Freedom 24:00 Alcohol, Red Wine & the Spectrum of Acceptable Foods 27:30 Fiber is Overrated – Healing IBS with Collagen & Meat 34:00 What Stool Really Is – Busting Fiber Myths 39:00 The Problem with Sugar Diets & Misguided Trends 44:00 You're Not Dehydrated – The Hydration Hype Exposed 49:00 Do We Really Need Electrolytes All the Time? 52:00 Sunlight: Powerful, But Not Without Risk REGENERATIVE PRODUCTS: NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

23 Heinä 1h 6min

Part 222 – Metabolic Freedom, Identity Change & the Myth of Snacking w/ Ben Azadi

Part 222 – Metabolic Freedom, Identity Change & the Myth of Snacking w/ Ben Azadi

Ben Azadi joins Peak Human for a powerful, wide-ranging conversation on what it really takes to reclaim your metabolic health in a world of processed food, misinformation, and identity confusion. As the founder of Keto Kamp and bestselling author of Metabolic Freedom, Ben breaks down the biological and psychological barriers to health—from insulin resistance and the dangers of constant snacking to the mindset shifts required to become someone who actually lives in alignment with vitality and longevity. Host Brian Sanders and Ben dive deep into topics like fasting, hormone signaling, body recomposition, and the power of intention. This episode is as practical as it is inspiring, offering a blend of science, ancestral wisdom, and self-mastery. Try the oyster pills! https://nosetotail.org/products/pure-oyster Show Notes: 01:15 – Meet Ben Azadi: Real food, metabolic freedom, and seed oil awareness 03:10 – The Seed Oil Allergy Card: How to navigate restaurants safely 06:00 – Metabolic Flexibility 101: From sugar burner to fat burner 08:45 – Insulin Resistance is the Root: Why fasting insulin matters more than blood sugar 11:15 – Real vs. Processed Carbs: Potatoes vs. potato chips 13:00 – The Snacking Epidemic: 17 to 23 eating events a day 14:45 – Grazing = Aging: How frequent eating ages you faster 17:30 – mTOR vs. Autophagy: Bodybuilding, aging, and metabolic balance 20:00 – The Hayflick Limit: Cellular aging explained 21:45 – Longevity Mode vs. Growth Mode: Living in cycles 31:15 – Don't Be a Keto Zealot: Even Keto Kamp flexes 36:30 – Nutrient Density Always Wins: Why sugar fasting is not sustainable 40:15 – Metabolic Inflexibility on Both Ends: Fat burners can get stuck too 41:00 – The Diet Culture Trap: Why most diets fail 43:30 – The Subconscious Self-Image: Why your beliefs keep sabotaging you 47:45 – Sticky Note Protocol: The 30-day mental reprogramming 56:30 – Real Food & Movement = Real Results 57:30 – Third World vs. First World: Why simple food wins 58:30 – Final Takeaways: Real food, movement, and mindset still winno REGENERATIVE PRODUCTS: NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

9 Heinä 1h 2min

Part 221 - Easy Fat Loss with Natural Hormone Optimization w/ Chris Kruger

Part 221 - Easy Fat Loss with Natural Hormone Optimization w/ Chris Kruger

Chris Kruger returns to Peak Human for an electrifying, no-nonsense breakdown of why the calorie paradigm is broken, how hormone health is the real foundation of lifelong fitness, and what he calls the "Forever Jeans" formula — a simple, powerful way to track your health without lab work or complex diagnostics. In this episode, host Brian Sanders returns after an eight-month hiatus with an update on his documentary 'Food Lies' and a deep dive conversation with fitness expert Chris Krueger. They discuss the myths surrounding diet and exercise, emphasizing the importance of natural hormone optimization over artificial supplementation like TRT. Krueger outlines a holistic approach to health that targets core strength, mobility, balance, and proper nutrition. The conversation also covers practical, actionable insights for achieving optimal health and fitness without the need for extensive gym workouts or rigid diet plans. The episode concludes with practical tips, such as leveraging whole foods and natural supplements like oyster capsules, to naturally boost essential hormones. Show notes: 00:00 Intro – What's New with Brian Sanders & Food Lies 02:15 Hormone Optimization Over TRT – Why Natural Matters 04:25 The Forever Jeans Formula – Waist-to-Height Ratio Simplified 08:55 Hormones vs. Willpower – Why You're Not Broken, the System Is 14:40 You Don't Need a Gym – The 14-Minute Workout That Changes Lives 21:10 Hunger Means Hunter – Rethinking Hunger, Leptin, and Satiety 28:00 The Leptin Trigger – Why Protein is the Key to Real Satiety 33:00 Snacks Are for Fat Kids? – Fasting, Insulin, and Hormonal Wins 35:00 The Flywheel of Hormonal Momentum vs. the Spiral of Willpower 44:20 How Women Can Optimize Naturally – Fat Loss and the 28-Day Cycle 48:00 The Billionaire with a Heart Attack – A Cautionary Tale 55:00 Helpful vs. Unhelpful Foods – A Simpler Way to Think About Diet 01:02:00 The Fitness Industry's Scam – What Really Works REGENERATIVE PRODUCTS: NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

18 Kesä 1h 22min

Part 220 -  What if Carbs Aren't the Problem? w/ Dr. Randy Johns & Dr. Rob Vasquez

Part 220 - What if Carbs Aren't the Problem? w/ Dr. Randy Johns & Dr. Rob Vasquez

Dr. Rob Vasquez and Dr. Randy Johns, known as The Happy Healthy Guys, wellness experts dedicated to transforming lives through natural health and wellness practices. With a focus on nutrition, detoxification, and holistic living, they aim to empower individuals to achieve optimal health and vitality. Dr. Vasquez and Dr. Johns are passionate about educating others on the importance of a balanced lifestyle, free from toxins and harmful habits. They share their knowledge through online content, public speaking, and wellness programs, helping people across the globe lead happier, healthier lives.   In this podcast episode Dr. Rob and Dr. Randy, share their journey from traditional medical paths to embracing chiropractic care and holistic health approaches. Both doctors recount their personal experiences with health challenges that led them to question the conventional allopathic model, which often focuses on symptom management rather than addressing root causes. Their journey led them to explore various diets and health practices, initially adhering to calorie-restrictive models but eventually shifting towards a more holistic understanding of nutrition. The hosts also discuss their approach to improving metabolic health by addressing common misconceptions and providing practical strategies. They emphasize the importance of metabolic flexibility, explaining how consuming the right types of carbohydrates can actually improve sleep and overall health, contrary to popular low-carb diets. They also talk about the dangers of consuming high-oxalate foods like spinach and almonds, which can lead to serious health issues, including kidney problems. Join their challenge for FREE https://www.h2thinchallenge.com/sapien    Show notes:   [00:02:00] Shift from Allopathic to Chiropractic Care [00:09:00] Trusting the Body's Natural Healing Process [00:11:00] Transition to Nutrition and Metabolism [00:16:00] Evolution of Their Health Philosophy [00:18:00] Rejecting the Calories-in, Calories-out Model [00:20:00] Low Carb Diet Journey,Health Decline and Realization [00:30:00] Reevaluating Dietary Choices [00:37:00] Key Principles for Sustainable Health [00:53:00]High Oxalate foods  [00:55:00] Metabolic flexibility

12 Syys 20241h 19min

Part 219 - Dr. Cate Shanahan on A Root Cause For All Disease?

Part 219 - Dr. Cate Shanahan on A Root Cause For All Disease?

Dr. Cate Shanahan is a board-certified family physician and expert in nutrition, focusing on the intersection of diet and metabolic health. She is the author of Deep Nutrition, The Fatburn Fix, and Dark Calories where she advocates for traditional diets rich in whole foods, emphasizing the benefits of healthy fats and nutrient-dense foods. With a background in biochemistry and genetics, Dr. Shanahan has dedicated her career to understanding how modern processed foods contribute to chronic disease and poor health outcomes. Her work has influenced numerous health professionals and individuals seeking to improve their well-being through dietary changes.

14 Elo 20241h 19min

90 Second Podcast - 3 Amazing Health Transformations

90 Second Podcast - 3 Amazing Health Transformations

Hello everyone, welcome back to Peak Human. This is a different kind of episode. It's going to be three 90 second podcasts. It's my new idea to fill in the gaps between peak human episodes. I do these short episodes with really interesting people I find around the internet with amazing health stories, valuable stuff in 90 seconds, really cool reels. I  put together, put them out on Instagram and also bundle them up and put them out as a little podcast. And so, yeah, in the meantime, go back and listen to the old episodes. Start back at episode one. So many great ones out there. And you may have heard Nose to Tail, my company is not selling meat anymore. We gave it a good run, but there's no profit on real food. I learned how the world works.  The world is the way it is because there's such a high profit margin on processed foods And if you don't have that huge profit margin, it's very hard to stay in business. So we've been supporting our regenerative ranchers here in texas for years now. We're going to sell the last bit of meat this monday We extended it. So if you're listening to this, it's June 12th, we're extending this to Monday, June 17th. And then we're going to stop. But of course we still have our amazing beef tallow body care products, hair, food, skin, food, deodorant, all the things. And we also have our biltong with liver too. We have the sticks made of grass fed meat, made of grass fed beef with liver. Best way to get your organs on the go.  So get that at http://nosetail.org get the last of our pasture raised pork by Monday, June 17th and enjoy the short three podcasts!

12 Kesä 20246min

Part 218 - How to Opt Out of the Sickcare System w/ Andy Schoonover

Part 218 - How to Opt Out of the Sickcare System w/ Andy Schoonover

Andy Schoonover is the founder and CEO of CrowdHealth, a company that aims to revolutionize the healthcare payment system through crowdfunding. Schoonover's journey into healthcare innovation was sparked by a personal experience when his daughter needed a simple medical procedure, resulting in an $8,000 bill that their insurance refused to cover. This frustration with the traditional health insurance system led him to create a more transparent and supportive alternative. CrowdHealth operates in all 50 states and offers members a way to manage healthcare costs through a monthly subscription model and crowdfunding for medical expenses. The platform emphasizes transparency, affordability, and personalized support, providing services such as bill negotiation, discounted prescriptions, and access to virtual care. In this episode Andy Schoonover and I talk about the foundation and mission of CrowdHealth, aiming to revolutionize the traditional insurance industry. Schoonover narrates his motivations stemming from personal dissatisfaction with conventional healthcare systems, leading to the creation of an alternative that promotes healthier lifestyles and aligns financial incentives with wise health choices. The discussion broadens to the concept of rationalizing detrimental behaviors by large entities for financial gain, and how such practices negatively impact society's well-being.   Get CrowdHealth for only $99 for the first 3 months with code SAPIEN  JoinCrowdHealth.com   Show notes: 00:12 Introducing Crowd Health: A New Approach to Healthcare 03:58 Building a Parallel Health System: The Crowd Health Mission 01:50 Andy's Journey: From Healthcare Professional to Revolutionizing the Industry 11:59 Navigating the Healthcare System: Personal Stories and Solutions 32:55 Understanding the Root Cause: Lifestyle Changes for Better Health 38:11 Redefining Diet: From Carnivore to Sapien 42:31 Understanding Metabolic Health  43:48 The Slow Danger of Processed Foods 01:00:54 The Spiritual Aspects of Health   REGENERATIVE PRODUCTS: NosetoTail.org Preorder the film here: http://indiegogo.com/projects/food-lies-post   Film site: http://FoodLies.org YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FoodLies   Follow along: http://twitter.com/FoodLiesOrg http://instagram.com/food.lies http://facebook.com/FoodLiesOrg

16 Touko 20241h 12min

Part 217 - Stephan van Vliet on the Hidden Health Benefits of Red Meat

Part 217 - Stephan van Vliet on the Hidden Health Benefits of Red Meat

Stephan van Vliet, PhD, is a distinguished researcher specializing in nutritional metabolomics at the Center for Human Nutrition Studies at Utah State University. He is widely recognized for his groundbreaking work in identifying and analyzing over 50,000 bioactive secondary compounds in meat. Dr. van Vliet's research emphasizes the nutritional and environmental implications of these compounds, particularly their roles in human health and disease prevention. His work challenges conventional dietary recommendations by highlighting the complex nutrient profile of meat and its potential benefits beyond primary nutrients. His contributions to the field have been published in numerous esteemed scientific journals, making significant impacts on our understanding of diet and health.   SHOW NOTES   01:10 Introduction to the Center for Human Nutrition Studies 02:07 Exploring Nutrition Studies and Grass-Fed Beef Research 03:03 Collaborations and Mentorship in Nutrition Science 04:46 The Impact of Diet on Human Health: A Deep Dive 18:40 The Complexity of Food and Its Nutritional Value 36:53 Regenerative Agriculture and Its Economic Implications 42:47 Debunking Processed Meat Myths 43:43 The Surprising Health Benefits of Traditional Meats 47:30 Nutrient Density and Satiety: The Protein Leverage Hypothesis 48:44 Exploring the World of Secondary Compounds 52:21 The Power of Whole Foods: Simple Yet Effective 54:32 Personalizing Nutrition: One Size Does Not Fit All 01:10:31 The Height and Health Connection: A Global Perspective 01:14:41 Regenerative Agriculture: Beyond the Hype 01:21:52 Concluding Thoughts: Accessibility and Health

9 Touko 20241h 17min

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