Could BTC Outperform Gold? Plus, Ethereum's Big Advantage: Bits + Bips - Ep. 928
Unchained21 Loka 2025

Could BTC Outperform Gold? Plus, Ethereum's Big Advantage: Bits + Bips - Ep. 928

In this episode of Bits + Bips, hosts Austin Campbell, Ram Ahluwalia, and Chris Perkins tackle a packed agenda: from the fairness of Binance’s listing fees to the ways in which DeFi didn’t perform well during the “Black Friday” crash, why Tempo’s $500 million raise might have been a political ploy, and the growing war over stablecoin dominance. The trio debates whether Bitcoin is undervalued compared to gold, why Ethereum’s 10-year track record gives it an edge, and whether today’s Digital Asset Treasuries (DATs) are just froth, or the permanent backbone of institutional crypto. Plus: Austin makes a bold prediction about the stablecoin that will dominate by 2040. Sponsors: Mantle Hosts: Ram Ahluwalia, CFA, CEO and Founder of Lumida Austin Campbell, NYU Stern professor and founder and managing partner of Zero Knowledge Consulting Christopher Perkins, Managing Partner and President of CoinFund Links: Binance Listing Fee Drama Unchained: Binance Listing Fee Fight: What’s a Fair Price to List on the Top Crypto Exchange? Binance Claims It Does Not Profit From Token Listings Jesse Pollak (Base) chimes in Tempo & Dankrad Fortune: Exclusive: Stripe-backed blockchain startup Tempo raises $500 million round led by Joshua Kushner’s Thrive Capital and Greenoaks Ethereum core dev Dankrad Feist joins Tempo Reactions: Ryan Adams (Bankless): Tempo will optimize for itself, not ETH. Nick Almond: Not a death sentence for ETH Breadguy: Big loss. Dankrad was a major L1 scaling advocate. Black Friday Dan Wilson: 3 big lessons post-crash Gold vs. BTC GOLD/BTC up ‎23.5% in past month Bitcoin Is Undervalued vs. Gold DATs Bloomberg: Huobi Founder Li Lin Set To Launch $1 Billion Ether Accumulator - Bloomberg CoinDesk: Ripple Set to Enter Corporate Treasury Business With $1B Acquisition of GTreasury Timestamps: 🎬 0:00 Intro 💸 3:39 Binance listing fees — fair price for distribution or pay-to-play? 🏛️ 10:19 What is the best way to go public? ⚔️ 11:57 How exchanges really compete behind the scenes 💥 15:00 “Black Friday”: why Chris calls it catastrophic — but with a silver lining 🧱 24:52 What the industry must fix to prevent another meltdown 💵 30:15 How Tempo’s $500M raise represents peak frothiness 🚨 39:12 Is Dankrad’s exit from the Ethereum Foundation a red alarm for ETH? 🔮 43:07 Austin’s bold prediction: which stablecoin wins by 2040 🥇 46:17 Is Bitcoin undervalued compared to gold? 🏗️ 52:21 Why DATs are here to stay despite the market carnage Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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How the Competition Will Play Out in the Great Stablecoin Race - Ep. 936

How the Competition Will Play Out in the Great Stablecoin Race - Ep. 936

In this episode of Unchained, Laura is joined by Rob Hadick, General Partner at Dragonfly, and Sam MacPherson, Co-founder and CEO of Phoenix Labs, to break down the fast-moving world of stablecoins an...

1 Marras 20251h 19min

Ex-Citi Chief Economist on Gold, Bitcoin and the Debasement of the US Dollar - Ep. 935

Ex-Citi Chief Economist on Gold, Bitcoin and the Debasement of the US Dollar - Ep. 935

Gold may have history, but does it have a future? Former Citi Chief Economist Willem Buiter joins Unchained Executive Editor Steve Ehrlich to argue that gold’s “6,000-year bubble” is long overdue to ...

30 Loka 202539min

Sharplink CEO on Why ETH Will Soon See a Boom in Demand: Bits + Bips - Ep. 934

Sharplink CEO on Why ETH Will Soon See a Boom in Demand: Bits + Bips - Ep. 934

In this episode of Bits + Bips, former BlackRock executive and SharpLink co-CEO Joseph Chalom joins hosts Austin Campbell, Chris Perkins, and Ram Ahluwalia to discuss why the Federal Reserve may move ...

29 Loka 20251h 20min

How Kraken Plans to Dominate Tokenization and Perps in 2026 and Beyond - Ep. 932

How Kraken Plans to Dominate Tokenization and Perps in 2026 and Beyond - Ep. 932

As crypto markets mature, Kraken is transforming from a trading venue into a multi-asset infrastructure platform.  Co-CEO Arjun Sethi joins to break down the exchange’s expansive strategy: building a...

28 Loka 20251h 1min

Arthur Hayes and Adam Schlegel on Why Private Equity Is Crypto's Next Big Wave - Ep. 933

Arthur Hayes and Adam Schlegel on Why Private Equity Is Crypto's Next Big Wave - Ep. 933

Crypto has spent years obsessing over tokens, airdrops, and speculation. But what about the unsexy businesses actually making money? Arthur Hayes and Adam Schlegel join Laura Shin to talk about Maels...

28 Loka 20251h 9min

Why Bitcoin Could Hit $150,000 Soon. Plus ‘Code Is Law’ Film - Ep. 931

Why Bitcoin Could Hit $150,000 Soon. Plus ‘Code Is Law’ Film - Ep. 931

This special two-part episode brings together two very different conversations. In part one, investment manager Lawrence Lepard lays out why he believes the fiat monetary system is structurally unsus...

24 Loka 20251h 15min

How Crypto Neobanks Make It Easier to Earn Passive Income - Ep. 930

How Crypto Neobanks Make It Easier to Earn Passive Income - Ep. 930

Neobanks changed how fintech thinks about money. Now, crypto builders want to do the same, without custody. In this episode, Itamar Lesuisse, CEO of Ready, and Mike Silagadze, CEO of EtherFi, argue t...

22 Loka 202558min

The Chopping Block: Zcash +400%, Tempo’s $500M Shock, EF Pay Firestorm & AWS/Base Meltdown feat. Mert - Ep. 929

The Chopping Block: Zcash +400%, Tempo’s $500M Shock, EF Pay Firestorm & AWS/Base Meltdown feat. Mert - Ep. 929

Welcome to The Chopping Block — where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week, Helius’s Mert returns to defend Zc...

22 Loka 20251h

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