Trauma-Informed Behavior Analysis, A Guide for BCBAs: Session 315 with Gabi Morgan and David Adams

Trauma-Informed Behavior Analysis, A Guide for BCBAs: Session 315 with Gabi Morgan and David Adams

Thanks for joining me in Session 315 of The Behavioral Observations Podcast. In this episode, I spoke with Drs. Gabi Morgan and David Adams to dive deep into trauma-informed behavior analysis. Gabi brings her 30-year journey in the field—from undergrad roots to professorship at Bay Path University—while David shares his evolution from child and family therapy to clinical psychology, with a heavy focus on foster and adoptive parenting. Both guests are passionate about closing the divide between trauma therapy and behavioral strategies, and they credit mentors like Dr. Jeannie Golden for lighting the way.

We kick things off by unpacking what trauma really means. In doing so, as a content warning, please be aware that we do make general references to a variety of traumatic and adverse experiences. Having said that, David walks us through SAMHSA's three-part definition: the event, the experience, and the effects. It's not the event itself that defines trauma—it's the individual's response. He introduces "adverse conditioning experiences" as a behavior-analytic twist on adverse childhood experiences (ACEs), spotlighting how negative associations get wired in through conditioning.

From there, we contrast PTSD and complex PTSD. Same core symptoms (intrusive thoughts, avoidance, etc.), but complex PTSD adds prolonged exposure and three extra layers: impaired self-worth, rocky relationships, and emotional dysregulation. Gabi drives home a critical point: folks with developmental disabilities are at higher risk for trauma but often fly under the diagnostic radar. We need to get better at spotting trauma-related behaviors in this population.

Screening, Brain Science, and Practical Strategies

Screening is a big theme. We all agree behavior analysts aren't formally trained in assessment, but we have to be aware of how this is done. Gabi loves the Child Health and Development Institute's Child Trauma Screen (CTS), and the Massachusetts Child and Adolescent Needs and Strengths (Mass CANS) tool.

David then nerds out on the neurobiology: trauma affects the amygdala (hypervigilance), hippocampus (memory glitches), hypothalamus (stress gone haywire), and frontal lobe (decision-making on the fritz). Enter the "amygdala hijack"—when fear short-circuits rational thought. Bottom line? Kids in fight-or-flight aren't in a teachable moment. Safety and calm have to come first.

We close the show with actionable takeaways: risk-benefit analyses for every intervention (especially with histories of food neglect), "kind extinction" (empathy + withholding reinforcers), and the six pillars of trauma-informed care (safety, trustworthiness, peer support, collaboration, empowerment, cultural competence). TIC isn't a "hyphenated" ABA—it's the whole framework.

Advice for new BCBAs? Seek trauma training, question "business as usual," and be the stable adult in a kid's chaotic world. Empathy, creativity, and reducing fear are your superpowers.

Additional Resources Sponsor Shoutouts!
  • Frontera. Consider taking a demo of Frontera's Assessment Builder and see how the ethical application of AI technologies can help you serve clients and save you time! Your first assessment report is free. And if you use code BOP25 you'll get an additional five assessments for just $100. So head to fronterahealth.com to check it out!
  • CEUs from Behavioral Observations. Learn from your favorite podcast guests while you're commuting, walking the dog, or whatever else you do while listening to podcasts. New events are being added all the time, so check them out here.
  • The inaugural ABA CON CEU cruise, which launches on Royal Caribbean's Wonder of the Seas from February 16–20, 2026. Learn more about this cruise here.
  • The 2026 Stone Soup Conference! This is one of the best values in the online conference space. I'm actually going to be one of the speakers at this year's event, along with a great cast of other characters you're probably familiar with. Save on your registration by using promo code PODCAST26!
  • MindBodyBehavior's Certified Health Coach Program. If you're a BCBA looking to use your ABA skills to help people live healthier lifestyles, learn how to do it the right way, with expert instruction, mentoring, and guidance from Sarah Burby. Better still, podcast listeners can save $$$ by using the code BOP10 at check out. Click here to learn more!
  • The 2026 Verbal Behavior Conference! Taking place March 26–27, 2026, in Austin, Texas, or livestream and on-demand on BehaviorLive. Presenters will include Drs. Mark Sundberg, Patrick McGreevy, Caio Miguel, Alice Shillingsburg, Sarah Frampton, Andresa De Souza, and Danielle LaFrance will share how Skinner's analysis of verbal behavior can guide the assessment and treatment of generative learning challenges in children with autism and other developmental disabilities. And don't miss the special pre-conference workshop on Wednesday, March 25. The discounted early-bird registration price is only available for a limited time, so get your ticket right away!

Jaksot(326)

BOP en Español 10: Los altos y bajos al establecer el análisis de conducta en Guatemala con Jessie Arroyave

BOP en Español 10: Los altos y bajos al establecer el análisis de conducta en Guatemala con Jessie Arroyave

En este episodio tenemos la oportunidad de conocer la trayectoria de Jessie Arroyave, la primera BCBA de Guatemala. Jessie publicó un artículo en la revista Behavior Analysis in Practice, en el que ha...

2 Heinä 20241h 23min

Leadership in Alternative Education Settings: Session 267 with Bruce Tinor

Leadership in Alternative Education Settings: Session 267 with Bruce Tinor

Dr. Bruce Tinor returns to the podcast for an informative conversation about his work as a principal at The Child and Career Developmental Center of Chester County, Pennsylvania. Long-time listeners w...

25 Kesä 20241h 33min

What is Primary Care Behavioral Pediatrics? Session 266 with Chris McGinnis

What is Primary Care Behavioral Pediatrics? Session 266 with Chris McGinnis

Dr. Chris McGinnis joins me in Session 266 to talk about his work in Primary Care Behavioral Pediatrics. If you're not sure what that is, don't worry. We go over that right away and learn that this ar...

12 Kesä 20241h 47min

Buffers That Protect Against Adverse Childhood Experiences: Session 265 with Camille Kolu

Buffers That Protect Against Adverse Childhood Experiences: Session 265 with Camille Kolu

Dr. Camille Kolu joins me again on the podcast, and let's just say that she came back loaded with great insights like these to share with you. If you're not familiar with Camille, she's been on the sh...

5 Kesä 20241h 13min

How Does Interviewer Behavior Influence Children's Responses? Inside JABA 19

How Does Interviewer Behavior Influence Children's Responses? Inside JABA 19

Did you rate and review Behavioral Observations on Apple Podcasts? You rated and reviewed Behavioral Observations on Apple Podcasts, right? John Borrero told me that you rated and reviewed Behavioral ...

22 Touko 20241h 4min

El Análisis de Conducta en Venezuela: BOP en Español 9, con Corina Jimenez-Gomez, Mirari Elcoro y Amalix Flores

El Análisis de Conducta en Venezuela: BOP en Español 9, con Corina Jimenez-Gomez, Mirari Elcoro y Amalix Flores

El Análisis de Conducta en Venezuela: Un legado finalmente reconocido con Corina Jimenez-Gomez, Mirari Elcoro y Amalix Flores No una, ni dos, sino 3 venezolanas rindiendo tributo al legado de Venezo...

20 Touko 20242h 6min

Behavior Analytic Approaches to Counseling and Therapy: Session 262 with Pat Friman

Behavior Analytic Approaches to Counseling and Therapy: Session 262 with Pat Friman

Dr. Pat Friman returns to discuss the Behavior Analytic approaches he uses with patients. In this episode, we harken way back to Session 16, and review some of what we know about Anxiety and Depressio...

1 Touko 20241h 25min

Entrevistas Motivacionales: BOP en Español 8 con la Dra. Monica Gilbert

Entrevistas Motivacionales: BOP en Español 8 con la Dra. Monica Gilbert

Entrevistas Motivacionales con la Dra. Monica Gilbert Aunque la entrevista motivacional nació del contexto psicoterapéutico y de rehabilitación en relación a dependencias y abuso de sustancias, hoy ...

23 Huhti 202456min

Suosittua kategoriassa Tiede

tiedekulma-podcast
rss-mita-tulisi-tietaa
rss-poliisin-mieli
docemilia
utelias-mieli
radio-antro
filocast-filosofian-perusteet
rss-sosiopodi
ihanat-ipanat
mielipaivakirja
rss-bios-podcast
rss-duodecim-lehti
rss-laakaripodi
rss-radplus
rss-opeklubi
rss-lihavuudesta-podcast