Quitting Spotify (ft. Deerhoof)
Switched on Pop25 Nov 2025

Quitting Spotify (ft. Deerhoof)

In June 2025, indie veterans Deerhoof scrubbed their entire catalog from the world’s dominant streaming platform. The catalyst wasn't low royalties, but Spotify co-founder Daniel Ek’s investment in AI military technology through his investment firm Prima Materia. Greg Saunier and Satomi Matsuzaki explain why they are prioritizing their ethics over exposure. They argue that the "convenience" of streaming traps us in harmful systems. They’d prefer listeners explore alternative paths to hear their music. That’s why the band premiered their latest single on Craigslist. And it’s they half jokingly say they "would rather our fans steal our music than stream our music at this point." SONGS DISCUSSED Deerhoof: Immigrant Song, Scarcity is Manufactured, Life is Suffering, Return of the Return of the Fire Trick Star MORE Get Zach Tenorio's synth extraveganza 'Field Trip' Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The power of singing together (ft. Tiny Habits)

The power of singing together (ft. Tiny Habits)

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Questionably Country

Questionably Country

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Phoebe Bridgers opens her Moleskine

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We have Confessions to make...

We have Confessions to make...

Madonna has returned this summer with Confessions II: an album full of huge hooks, pounding bass, and sincere emotion. It’s the queen of pop's first record in seven years, and serves as a sequel to he...

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A piano lesson that will change how you listen (ft. Lang Lang)

A piano lesson that will change how you listen (ft. Lang Lang)

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11 Aug 36min

IV. Take It to the Bridge (ft. Tayla Parx)

IV. Take It to the Bridge (ft. Tayla Parx)

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4 Aug 42min

III. Preaching to the Chorus (ft. Cypress Hill and Trevor Horn)

III. Preaching to the Chorus (ft. Cypress Hill and Trevor Horn)

The chorus was once the part of the song that brought us together, the place we gathered to sing. Now it's the most engineered thirty seconds in music. Legendary producer Trevor Horn and hip-hop icon ...

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II. Justice for the verse (ft. Audrey Hobert)

II. Justice for the verse (ft. Audrey Hobert)

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21 Jul 33min

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