The AI Update XVII - Incest Economy
Off Center8 Des 2025

The AI Update XVII - Incest Economy

Scott and Jhave are back talking billions of dollars and discussing whether the new AI economy truly is "too big to fail".

References

Artificial Analysis (2025) Models Leaderboard

Fortune (2025) Without data centers, US GDP growth was 0.1% in the first half of 2025

GLM-4 (2025) GLM-4.6: Open-Source Bilingual Intermediate Model https://github.com/THUDM/GLM-4

Kimi (2025) Kimi k10 / K2 Thinking: Interleaved Reasoning Model https://www.moonshot.ai/

MiniMax (2025) MiniMax-M2: Video and Language Foundation Models https://www.minimaxir.com/

Sarah Friar (2025) Interview on Unconventional AI Financing and Infrastructure

District Court, D. Massachusetts (2024) Copyright Infringement Litigation: RIAA v. Suno, Inc. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68897534/recording-industry-association-of-america-inc-v-suno-inc/

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