An introduction to CMO Therapy
CMO Therapy19 Nov 2024

An introduction to CMO Therapy

Welcome to my new podcast, CMO Therapy!

Wait, what’s that, another podcast? OK OK. Give me a minute to tell my story.
My name is Lucy Heavens and I’m a senior marketing professional. I’ve worked in the fintech industry for more than 25 years and I love it!


One of my favourite and (so I’m told) top skills is relationship building, and I’ve built up quite a network of fintech marketers over the years. Not just any marketers. In my humble opinion, I’m super grateful to be surrounded by lots of awesome marketers.


In more recent years as I’ve become more senior (*cough* and older), I’ve realised that I need these awesome people in my life more than ever. The life of a CMO can be tough at times, right?


On a regular basis my WhatsApp pings with a “fancy a chat?” or “can I pick your brain?” message. I fondly call these ‘therapy sessions’ where my fellow CMOs and I bounce ideas off each other, discuss challenges and unpack sticky situations. Just to confirm – I am not suggesting I have all the answers, 100% not! But there is so much power in having a buddy, an ear, a trusted friend to talk things through.

Two heads are better than one. It takes a village… take your pick of any of those quotes. It’s this approach that’s helped me grow so much quicker into a better marketer and kept me sane over the years.

During one of our therapy sessions, one person said “Lucy, we should record this. So many other would definitely benefit from listening, learning, and offering another perspective.” So this is my gift to you.


If you’ve made it this far, I hoped I’ve tempted you enough to have a listen.


So, welcome to CMO Therapy everyone! A podcast that’s hopefully going to help you navigate your way through your marketing journey because let me tell you, I get it – being a marketing leader is no walk in the park.


In each episode we dive headfirst into the world of B2B marketing, where uncertainty, tight budgets, and fierce competition are just the beginning of the rollercoaster ride. But guess what? You're not alone in this. Why go solo when you can tap into the powerhouse of insights from some of the most awesome marketing leaders in the game?


And look, the title might include the word therapy, but we're not just talking about challenges here – we're tackling them head-on. Join us as we deep dive into the nitty-gritty, share war stories, and unlock secret strategies. Get ready for no-holds-barred conversations because sometimes I have no filter.


So, if you're a chief marketing officer, a marketing lead, or just someone looking to up their marketing game – then CMO Therapy is for you!


You’ll get one new episode every 2 weeks on a Tuesday – my new favourite day of the week - with chats about about so many marketing topics from AI, to thinking like a challenger, to how CMOs can love your CFO.


I’m so excited for you to listen and I hope you enjoy it as much as I do. So stay tuned for episode 1!


Music clip by Filo Starquez, Divergence

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Episoder(42)

Relationship first, revenue second

Relationship first, revenue second

Ever get that little pang of rage opening LinkedIn to yet another "Hi Lucy, hope you're well!" message from someone who clearly hasn't looked at your profile? Yeah, us too. In this episode, Lucy is jo...

15 Sep 38min

Your Martech Stack Is Not the Strategy

Your Martech Stack Is Not the Strategy

Every marketing leader has inherited some flavour of martech chaos. A few platforms bought with the best intentions, a tool or two nobody quite remembers signing up for and now AI getting thrown at th...

4 Aug 33min

Burn the playbook

Burn the playbook

Some CMOs walk into a new role with a playbook already in hand. Frameworks that worked before, campaigns that grew the last company from five to fifty million. Handy. Except when it isn't.In this epis...

21 Jul 36min

The CMO advantage AI can't fake

The CMO advantage AI can't fake

AI can spit out a flawless marketing strategy in three seconds flat. What it can't do is tell you when to trust your gut in the room. That's exactly what this episode of CMO Therapy gets into.Lucy is ...

7 Jul 34min

Boiling the ocean won't fill your funnel

Boiling the ocean won't fill your funnel

Ever feel like marketing success is just about doing more - more channels, more activity, more noise? In this episode of CMO Therapy, Lucy is joined by the brilliant Lauren Berkemeyer, CMO at YuLife, ...

16 Jun 37min

Beyond the CV, Identifying Real Marketing Talent in an AI Driven World

Beyond the CV, Identifying Real Marketing Talent in an AI Driven World

Hiring marketing talent has always been hard, but right now it feels like a whole new level of chaos.In this episode of CMO Therapy, Lucy is joined by Conor Coughlan, CMO at Armis, to unpack the sligh...

2 Jun 39min

Brand Voice, Not a Bot Voice

Brand Voice, Not a Bot Voice

AI has well and truly landed in marketing teams, and yes, it can be brilliant. It can speed things up, sharpen ideas and help us get more from the content we already have. But it has also unleashed a ...

5 Mai 35min

The messy reality of the modern CMO

The messy reality of the modern CMO

In this episode of CMO Therapy, Lucy meets with the brilliant Sinead Willis for a very honest conversation about the messy reality of the modern CMO. Because sometimes the role you’re sold in the inte...

21 Apr 39min

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